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I figured you’d like the option that keeps you in motion! I’m the same way.
And yes, she is definitely at the point where she is adding speed so it is harder to get the weaves. But she figured it out, which is a relief 🙂Omg I love this!!!!! Forget the agility ring, you’re going to be ready for America’s Got Talent!!! This is really fun and yes, I think it will be really fun to move to the start line 🙂 yay!!
THi! That is weird! Did you try the PDF?
They should be listed there too.
Are you trying to use the CRCD code? And if so, on what device? Thanks!
TracyHello and welcome back! Great to see you here 🙂
Sorry to hear it is so hot!!! EEK!!!!
The Lazy Game looked really good!! Using the toy is fine, except I suggest you throw it and not reward from you hand. The best place to throw it is to the landing side of the middle jump so she really drives away from you – especially when she was on your right. She tended to want to look at you more when she was on your right and was happier to drive away when on your left side.
>>Am I cheating by driving her over the first jump with a bit of an angle? The second jump is quite a ways out there and that seemed to help her see it.>>
Nope, not cheating 🙂 And as long as you kept moving, she should keep looking for jumps. There was only one moment where you tried to help but ended up cuing something else – at :37 you were a bit sideways, so she read it as a threadle cue. Good girl! On the next rep, you were nicely lazy and just moved forward, and she was perfect. Hooray for lazy! LOL! So, keep being lazy and let her find the lines.
Great job here!
TracyHi! I do not have a specific agility leash, because I mainly toss all the leashes in a pile and grab whichever is handy LOL! My poor dogs LOL!! So yes, they will tug on any leash because they have a disorganized momma 🙂
T
Hi!
>>.long story but we “fought” outside the ring before going in for way too long and it definitely transferred over to our performance in the ring>>
Yep, I have been there too. So many lessons learned, thanks to the previous generation of dogs 🙂
I really love that you have already been working on making ALL the things fun. He is doing really well here! The food on the table behind him is HARD but you added more energy into the leash play – and then he was great.
You also have a solid assortment of tricks in the toolbox that he is learning to do with the cookies on the table.
I think sometimes he pairs being “done” with the tricks with going back to the cookies, that is why he was looking back to the table especially when you were at the jump closer to it. He was more all business on the jump further away, looking back to the reward less.I love that he is tugging on his leash! And it cracked me up when he grabbed the leash at the end and ran it back towards the cookie table LOL!
One thing I would recommend with the leash is that you use it a LOT in terms of leaving it out there for him to ignore… and sometimes cue it to be the reward. And you can also have the cookie pile on the table (or toys) for him to ignore except when cued – and both of these can happen when you are training with food and toys in the ring with you. That way they are useful as reinforcement, but also kind of fade in to the background. He was definitely having them at the top of his list here, and we want him to be aware of them but not thinking about them the whole time, if that makes sense.
And you can definitely take this game on the road – the other thing I like to do is have the leash and toys all left behind the dog… and have a hidden reward on me! So when he leaves those things behind and comes into the course: SURPRISE! Magic ball comes out or favorite cookie. I use the hidden toy as part of my NFC runs in trials too 🙂
Great job! Let me know what you think!
TracyHello, welcome back! I am looking forward to seeing you both! Fingers crossed for a speedy recovery from the spay and then back in action, you’ll have plenty of time to catch up 🙂
Tracyhi!
>>He does LOVE his balls….hmmm…not sure that came out just right….hahaha!!!
Ha! I was totally right there with you LOL
>>And yes, these teeters were without a target. I think we’re going to take a little break from teeters for a week or two. As you said his is pretty awesome and I/we are obsessing over those last couple of inches. He’s definitely a dog that likes to let stuff simmer awhile. His weaves were that way. We struggled with helping him find his rhythm…got close, took a couple of weeks off and inside the first session back he “had it”. Anyway….. have a great 4th.>>
Yes! I am a big fan of letting things percolate and taking time off 🙂 He looks great!
T
Hello and welcome! So happy to see you and Peeka here! No worries about anything you didn’t get to from the previous classes, I am confident you and Peeka will be great 🙂
TracyHi!
>>As you work on the tight blinds, a way to help him understand the turning is to do the blind then run away and reward across your body. So in this instance the toy would be in your left and you would run, showing him the toy in your left, and keep running til he caught up to you.
>>I’m a little confused on this – can you give another example?Here are some visuals of what I mean with the rewards:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5bHr6WBq3g>>So he has very little commitment – he will take the front side so fast it’s ridiculous so I’ve compensated by overhandling that.
Start my moving up the line to the center of the bar then gradually work up to getting further and further across towards the exit wing.
And balance every 1 threadle with 4 or 5 front sides and backside pushes, so he doesn’t go all threadle-obsessed on you.>> Can I try your above suggestion and give an example video?
Sure!
Hi! She did well on these courses!
Course 1:
On the opening, you were a little too far across the line 2 to 3 at :04 & 31 – you can see her turning on landing between the 2 jumps. We have an even better view of it at 1:03: you can run closer to the inside wing of 2 and run right on her line so she starts setting up the turn before takeoff and has less push back to 3 on landing.Good blind 4-5 on the first run! and at :35 and also at 1:07! Nice!
Weaves – After watching these, I think it could be an inexperience thing: her struggles could be the visual distraction of the other obstacles and/or lack of experience of these entries with all that speed – but she started to get it really nicely, so she was definitely ‘seeing’ them and finding them really well!
After the weaves, when she was passing the tunnel at :52 and 1:19: I think that was also a young dog moment – the tunnel there turns the dog away so it feels weird for her to take it, plus you disconnected a bit to get up the line (especially at :52). With a little more support and experience, you will be able to run that line the way you wanted to here 🙂
The FC at the end of the course at 1:23 started on time… but finished late because of the rotation. It is a good spot to try the blind there 🙂
Course 2 – On this opening, you can send to 2 from further across the bar so you can get ahead better and stay off her landing line 2-3.
Then over 5 at 1:42 you can tighten it a tiny bit more by deceling more and not turning your shoulders to the wing to commit her. But since it is REALLY hard to decel and kind of freeze there – the other option is to continue moving through a spin! You had the time to do it and I think it will make the turn perfect.The blind at 1:56 looked really good! we will be timing the difference later this summer – but my guess is the blind is faster here – your running line was a little wider than on the FC but she accelerated through it really nicely!!
As you finished out this course, you had a little too much pressure pushing back into her line at 1:58 so she dropped the bar as you were pushing her hard – you can push hard and stay on a tight line there right next to the wing, or have her exit the tunnel on your left side and do a blind between the 2 jumps.
Great job here! She looks great and I am glad she is figuring out the weave entries!!
TracyHi there! Great job on this one! Here are some ideas for you:
I like that you played with getting the turn 4-5 (jump to tunnel) on the opening line). You were early on the BC 4-5 (you did it before he landed from 3) at :05 and at :57 (he had not yet landed from 3). Definitely better timing on it at :16 and even better at 1:05! A little more decel would make it more perfect plus more experience with him seeing tight blinds. As you work on the tight blinds, a way to help him understand the turning is to do the blind then run away and reward across your body. So in this instance the toy would be in your left and you would run, showing him the toy in your left, and keep running til he caught up to you. That really helps the dogs learn to love turning on these blinds 🙂 Let me know if that makes sense.
I was thinking “well maybe the FC would be better” but nope – he wider on the FC at :29 plus your position was not a good, and you ended up running backwards a bit which sent him wider. So – blind cross! That brings up the question of how you can get there a step or two soon to have time to decelerate into it… so let’s look back at 1-2-3 🙂
I bet you can get there sooner if you left #2 sooner. You were giving a big send/step to commit him (almost too much at :14, he went wide there) and that was delaying your exit up the next line. He pulled the wing a :54 because you were still on landing side as he was taking off.
So to leave sooner there, think of it as more of a parallel path backside line and less of a push or send: lead out less but allll the way across #2 – release and move forward to your line with a lot of connection and give the backside cue with as minimal of a ‘step’ as you can do – he should propel away to the backside and then you just run forward. That will easily get you up the next line even more. I try not to use ANY step in these situations: just connection and verbal.
I think you can help him get his weave entry by staying chill til he is in and still have a ton of time to get where you need to be for the next part. And while he is weaving, you can stay on the weave entry side of the tunnel and get a BC between 8-9 or get tighter RC (more pressure between the 2 jumps to get him to turn on the takeoff of 9 rather than landing of 9 as he did at :43 and 1:18. You had the tunnel as 10 here but it is actually 12 🙂
>>When we did get to the end of the course there was no way I could push him to the backside of the second to last jump so I just let him take it straight on>>Ha! I was double checking the map to see if I remembered it incorrectly LOL! You have options to get that backside: hang back a little closer to the tunnel to serp the jump after it from closer then push to it, or do a BC on the landing side of the jump and push to it from the other side 🙂
On Course 1 – GREAT run! Super nice opening, nice job on the blind 4-5! I nthe next set of courses/sequences, we will be working a bit of ‘brake’ hand to help sweeten up that turn on 8.
He weaves really well here can you decel and stick closer to the tunnel entry so you don’t run past it then lose ground running back – it is a good independent skill for both Kip and Emmie. And nice blind at 1:48! The more we get you happy on those tighter blinds, the more comfy you will be doing them on the tight lines. Yay!Great job! Let me know what you think!
TracyHi there! Nice work here!!!
Everything looked really good, just a couple of little details to smooth out parts where he had questions:
On the first sequence, you can use a jump cue for the jump after the right turn tunnel exit – you were quiet and stationary so he was not sure if he should power to it or not. You had good timing on your right verbal! In the smaller spaces, you can be closer t the tunnel then peel away, so you can keep moving – that way he will match the motion and not ask if you want him to decelerate.
2nd sequence:
>> I think he missed the first backside to the tunnel because I was too far over and blocking his view of the wing.>>It was hard to see your exact position relative to the wing, but it looked good to me. When he took the front side at :37, I think it was more that you broke connection as he landed from jump 1 and was still behind you – you looked forward and indicated forward, so he took the front (that is where your shoulders were pointing). Compare to the connection you had at :53 – nice! When he landed, he saw more connection and less pointing forward and had no questions as to which side to take.
On the first tunnel exit, you can rotate and give the verbal sooner (you were moving forward as she entered at :56) He turned nicely on the exit but I don’t want to dilute the Go exits by having him turn tight when you are moving forward.He turned left over 4 back towards the tunnel – it looked like you might have been a little bit on the rear cross line, so maybe turn to the fence sooner at :58 and be further across the line to the outside wing? He might have also been anticipating a bit because it makes more sense to go back towards the tunnel than it does to jump out to the fence LOL!
Super nice opening on the last run and also the timing was much earlier on the FC at the tunnel – YAY! You can do the FC and keep calling him there, rather being quiet til you see him. He does like noise LOL!
You also moved away up the line better to 4 at 1:28 and the turn was really nice, setting up a nice ending line too!
Great job here! Let me know what you think!
TracyHi!
>>I’m such a slacker!! I’m on page 3 in this forum …. It’s not for lack of training, either. Always things to work on….>>
You are totally not a slacker! It is a busy forum plus training time doesn’t always leave time for video editing and posting LOL!
>>I’ve been adding more and more independence skills to the weaves for Differ. And my homework for Pose from the seminar was to get more distance skills in the weaves. I had already started working on counter motion with Pose while she is in the weaves and she’s getting really good at that. I have no video of her. The deer flies are HORRIBLE right now and when it’s not 95 degrees and high humidity, there are deer flies.>>
Awesome! And yes, the heat plus humidity plus BUGS have made training an early morning adventure for me – and we are still 10-15 degrees cooler than you are (so odd that MN is so much hotter than VA!)
>>Here is Differ with some pulling away in the weaves. This was a pretty hot day… she even got hot.>
She was a rockstar, of course! You made it a little bit harder (maybe on purpose?) by staying relatively calm with your motion and then exploding away right as she entered. She didn’t seem to mind, though! Nailed her weaves!
I am glad you did the ‘toss’ reward at the end, to keep the placement nearer the weave exit and not only on cap on the jump after it.
Because she did so well, you can change the challenge: stick very close to the first jump she was wrapping, so you are still close enough to touch it as she exits the wrap – then take one step to set the line to the weaves, and start to move away. The challenge then becomes: can you still commit to the weave entry even when the momma is showing the exit line 10-15 feet sooner? I bet she can! And that can also allow you to work up to those really hard 90 degree angles as you move away.
>>I was going to add the teeter, but we had some issues that came up where she flew off it and lost her confidence. So, I’ve been staying closer for now. I’m actually not all that close – I have some decent lateral distance. But I don’t really want to pull away or run ahead too much right now.>>
Poor girl! I agree with staying close enough for support – the teeter is such a crazy obstacle for the little dogs, so maintaining their confidence is so critical. No rush to add the teeter to the independence games at this point, and when you do we can even have targets out there to help her (the idea would be to revisit whatever you used to help teach the behavior).
Great job here! Let me know what you think!
Tracy
