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> I think he likes wraps. You had mentioned putting cue on it. I used Dig dig for my other dogs with both directions. Do you use something different for right and left?>
Yes – I use one verbal for a wrap to the left and one for a wrap to the right, because I will never be able to outrun my dogs and can’t guarantee I will be able to show physical cues… so they are happy to get the verbals 🙂 Both of my wrap verbals are noises to prevent me from shouting them LOL (choochooochooo is wrap-right and tststs is wrap-left). Dig dig is a good one, and check checl is another common good one too!
> Backsides is around. I am assuming I use Dig dig for these.>
Yes, I consider the barrel games to be front side wraps. We will have more stuff with verbals coming soon!
>Hits on the target. Yea sometimes he seems to get it with touching and sometimes not. Does make me question his understanding of the foot prop.>
He seems to understand it well enough for our purposes here. It is basically “commit to a thing” 🙂 And we will eventually replace the “thing” (prop) with a jump or tunnel.
> Not sure if I will do running with him or not but I have DW rubber running contact mats to train that. It is much bigger than that prop too.>
Perfect! And when he is ready to start that, we will be long done with the prop.
Looking at the video:
> I will admit my training plan seemed to have gaps for the RC. After the start of the session I decided I should do a warm up of parallel path.>
I htink you might just need more room, so it is easier to get him to drive ahead. A long hallway would be perfect. But he is getting it for sure – he is very tuned in to your motion! Even in the smaller space, he was able to read the RCs based on your motion in both directions! Normally baby pups can’t do that. I am impressed 🙂 The times where he did not read the RC and turned the ‘wrong’ way were when you were a little late so he had already arrived at the prop. If you try it in a longer space, he will drive ahead more and that will make it even easier to show the RC.
Backing up: this is coming along nicely too!
>. I do question doing it with more of a shoot maybe with the cones or in a hallway.>
You totally can, but I don’t think you need to 🙂 You can do it in a chair to keep your hands low (without having to bend over the whole time). Have treats in your hands and your elbows kind of on your thighs, so your hands can dangle below knee-level. Keeping your hands low the whole time (at or below your knee level) then flicking the cookie back towards him to reward while keep his head lower and get more backing up. Raising your hands caused his head to come up a bit which stopped the backing up. You can also add a mat for him to back up on to, because that might clarify exactly what you would like him to do with his back feet 🙂
Nice work here!
TracyWow, his engagement was impressive: in a new, distracting area where he has never trained and he was immediately able to play the game. Super!!!!
This went well! Lovely engagement! The next step is that you can slow it down a shade, so he stops moving for a moment while he looks towards you. Then you can mark it with a ‘yes’ or ‘get it’ then throw the next treat.
You can also add in having him wear a leash (with you holding the other end) as a way to prepare for when you play this game in different places where he will have to be on lead. It will feel like you need 3 hands at first so practicing with the leash on at home will make it easier.
Great job!!!
Tracy
I just saw in your post below that it is a frozen tundra outside – definitely do not take this game outside! Indoors is good til the weather improves 🙂
T
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He did great with the collection sandwich! Superstar!!!
You were making really good transitions from going fast through the blind then decelerating into the pivot. :23-:27 and :43-:48 at the beginning had lovely decel, so he was able to collect and turn brilliantly. And you did that on all the reps where you were throwing the lotus ball: run, blind, decel, then run again (and throw :)) The lotus ball was the perfect choice because he really drove to it after the first rep (where he was figuring it out :)).
The next step would be to take this to a longer room, so both of you can move more! If the weather is good, try it outside. If the weather is bad, stay indoors 🙂 and maybe try this in a long hallway as long as it is carpeted so you and Rusty don’t slip.
> I need to monitor how many times a turn to each side. In this series it is out of balance – way more turns to my right.>
You can divide the treats into 2 sets, 5 treats each, and put them on opposite sides of the room to remind you to work both sides when you have to reload the treats 🙂
>Another question . . . Sometimes you pose questions in your responses. I do not know the proper way to respond to them which is why I haven’t done so. Do I just do another reply?>
You have a couple of options! You can create another reply if you like. Or you can answer the question along with anything you post – whatever is easier for you will work for me!
Great job here!
Tracy
Hi!
The backing up onto the pad went well! And I love how you were scooting the pad away with your feet, that was perfect for stealthily adding distance a tiny bit at a time. She did really well!! That chair was perfect for the game.
> Now trying to transition to standing>
Actually, no need to stand at this point! You can sit because it gets the really good form and that is most important (and easier for us humans, which is nice too :)) . So instead of standing, you canwork on more distance to the mat and adding a verbal cue to it. The verbal cue will make it easier to get the good form while you are standing too.
> I’ve learned that she doesn’t generalize well at all. lol. A lot of crazies going on at my house, I’m having several very large trees removed and it’s making training a challenge. Lots of noise and people. I’m going to have to catch up when they are done. Hopefully that will be Wednesday.>
I can see why that would be hard! You can try the pattern game from the resilience track while the craziness is happening – that is a great use for it!
Great job!
Tracy
Oops forgot to answer this:
>I’m headed to SF for a UKI trial (Monday). The courses for that day are designed by Tamas Traj, one of the judges for next months UKI Invitationals. It will be helpful to see what we’re in for there. >
FUN!! Get ready to run run run and expect lots of layering, distance, discriminations (jump-tunnel-weave).
>Also, rain is expected through the week. Given the weather, and concern that Jazz may have pain/discomfort, what sort of things can we be working on in the house this week??
I think it would be fun to do some lineup games, maybe more shaping of her cute face into the loop of the leash, and some tricks! What tricks does she know? Those are perfect for rainy days.
Tracy
Hi!
Looking at the first video:
Driving ahead looked really good here, the placed toy definitely helped!> On the first right turn he seemed to be expecting to go to the reward again but did follow through on the turn.>
You were a little late on the cue there (:14) – it started after he had made the takeoff decision and you were still running on the go line when he had to decide how to take off. You were much earlier at :21 on the next rep (and the reps after that), already showing the pressure on the line when he had exited the tunnel. That set up lovely RCs!
When you changed sides, adding the wings went really well! The rear cross timing was a little harder. You were actually too early at 1:09 – you can see your left foot was already facing the red jumps on the other side when he exited the tunnel instead of moving to the center of the bar. That is what pushed him off the line there (he turned before the jump).
You overcompensated by running straight for too long on the next rep 🙂 but the rep after that at 1:39 was spot on! Super!
You got the best RCs when you accelerated to the center of the bar. When you were hanging back a bit, you ended up running a bit too straight so he curled in towards your position (like at 1:46). That L-shaped running line created too much of a turn so he missed the wing after it. But whne you accelerated more, he read the RCs better and found the wing after it easily.
He did really well with the first layering concept! Good boy! Well done with your reward placement on those too. I think he liked the run run running part of it all 🙂 After he got the hang of it, he only had one question (:59) where he almost didn’t go to the jump. That was because you turned pretty early there, so the body said tunnel 🙂
Were you saying ‘jump’ or ‘go’ there? If you were saying ‘jump’ – carry on 🙂 If you were saying ‘go’ you can add in a jump verbal, because naming the obstacles can really help with discriminations!
The 5 bar ladder was challenging! He really had to think about his balance! On the 1st, 2md, and last rep, he did well on in the first 2 gaps (jumps 1-2-3) but then got a little weight shifted forward on the last 2 gaps (jumps 3-4-5). It is subtle at full speed, so you can watch in slow motion and you’ll see his head come up and hind end lift a bit.
The 3rd rep had the best balance! Good boy!Being held at the start might have added a little more excitement 🙂 so you can put that first bar down one notch lower so it is easier to step in even when he is pumped up.
To help him learn to stay balanced across all 5 jumps, you can move veryyyyy slooowwwwwwllllly LOL almost shuffling so he has a little less stimulation from the moving target.
Great job here!
TracyHi!
Good for you for pushing the limits – she was GREAT!!Finding the small cookie was the only hard part. She found the bigger treat easily and was great about tugging too! Your blinds looked good – nice and connected! And she pivoted with you brilliantly. You can add more running 🙂 by running away while she is getting the start cookie, to add more distance so she gets to run more too. And you can tug more after the pivots, and also add in throwing the toy straight ahead for her to chase too! She was really focused and engaged here!
Her pattern game session also looked lovely. She was excited to start it and fully engaged even before you tossed the first treat. Fabulous! Her engagement was terrific. You can add your motion to this too, strolling back and forth. The long line worked well but you can also use a regular 4 or 6 foot leash for this – that way you can get her closer to distractions and get her comfy doing this with a normal leash like she would be doing near the ring.
> I can see where my brain gives out (End of Trial Day Exhaustion) – and I revert back to ‘yes’ instead of ‘get it’ ….I am DETERMINED to get this :D.>
Ha! You can try setting a timer so keep the sessions to 30 seconds then break off to play tug, then do another 30 seconds… that way you get a break if your brain is tired. Macklynn was fine with the length of the session here 🙂
> Macklynn, however, seemed confident. She was on a decent length long-line that she is normally comfortable dragging around, but she didn’t seem to have any desire to get away.>
Yes, she looked happy, relaxed, and engaged. Super!!!
>I’m hoping to push the envelope on this in a more exciting area of the facility during next weekend’s trial.>
I think she is ready for more! That can be more tugging and running, or getting closer to the action. Have fun and keep me posted!
Nice work here 🙂
TracyHi!
>I think I’ve ruined the awesome little poodle that I had. I’ve created a confused pup. Hard to know if she’s in discomfort, or my confusing handling is causing the shutdown problems.>
You have NOT ruined her! We will sort out the puzzle. For training – she did well with the food and I want to get you doing an even higher rate of reinforcement! More on that below.
> I am concerned that if she is in pain or has discomfort that could explain the change in her response to these agility games.>
Possibly! Which is why we are sticking to easy, non-impact stuff. You can also give her a week off of training and see if it helps. Maybe ask the vet about a pain trial? A week of pain meds to see how she does? That can be incredibly helpful.
And also, in training you will want to reward *all* the things that happen in handling games, because if she is not getting rewarded due to a handler error, then it is deflating and confusing. And if something hurts, it can definitely be challenging.
>We played with the “Diamond” exercise, with just food. I realized after viewing this that I wasn’t starting her from a sit like you suggested… instead I’d start when she was “kind of” lined up>
That was fine! We still got some good feedback from her!
There were definitely some frozen moments, more on that below.
>. Couple of things I can improve on: reward more frequently,>
Yes! Reward all the things, in small bursts. Of course reward when it goes according to plan, but more importantly: reward if it does not go to plan. Because these are handling games, she can only respond to the cues she sees. And you have to assume that if the behavior is not what you wanted then the cue was not clear enough.
For example: you had gorgeous connection consistently on those tight blinds, so she nailed them!
She had questions in other spots, like coming back out of the tunnel at :42 when you pulled away too early. You can just reward that and for now, use a straighter tunnel so it is easier to stay committed even if you pull away too early.
Also, pointing ahead of her tends to be where more of the errors happen, when she pulls off a wing or the tunnel. You can see it at :53, 1:27, 1:11, 1:56 (she started sniffing when you stopped). You might have been able to see her, but with your arm ahead she could not really see which way to go and either guessed or stopped. In those moments, you marked her as being wrong which is deflating, so she gets more sticky.
You can also see it at 1:41 on the way to the tunnel – the pointing ahead caused you to turn away from the tunnel before she was committed, so she came off – you stopped to sort out the handling and did reward after a bit, but she perceives the stop as puniushment.
So on all of those, just keep running for a few more steps and praise and reward! No worries about accuracy at all for now.
> reward on her line instead of out of my hand (She seems to be looking for the reward too much). >
I agree about looking up at you a bit too much – partially because the food was from your hands, partially because she was not sure of what to do due to the no-reward moments, so she was watching more. You can use a lotus ball or treat hugger to be able to throw food rewards more easily.
>Also using the correct wrap verbals might clear up some of her confusion.>
Yes but I think connection is more important, so no worries about the words for now 🙂
Since we are also trying to sort out if she has anything that hurts, I watched her movement in slow motion for a lot of it. It is hard to see a fast little black dog move! At the beginning, it looked like a little bit of bunny hopping (keeping back legs close together) around the wing like at :14-15, :27-:28. And she had a stop in the action at :32, a frozen mment. Were you pointing ahead too much? Probably 🙂 But the motion was good and the wing was visible, so I played that in slow motion – there is some offloading of her left hind :33- :39) She got moving again when a cookie was visible. It is interesting to note this in case you need to show it to anyone,
Speaking of showing it to someone, how far are you from this, I think it is in Petaluma? There are spots left for evals and I think Dr. Canapp might be a bit of a genius!
https://townandcountrydtc.org/stride-to-strength-apr-2026/
>I have tapped down her back and she does react (her bitey behavior) when I get close to her rear>
Darn it, I wish I had asked you to video that! My bad!! Gentle tapping should produce a little ripple or spasm, so if you got bitey behavior then yes, she has an ouch or is feeling defensive about the area back there.
> – hard to tell if that is due to discomfort or just her bitey self as she can get bitey when I scratch her head, or rub her neck – sometimes and sometimes not. >
Could all be linked. Does she sometimes do a bit of puppy chewing on your hand, versus grabbing your hand harder/bitey behavior?
>Nothing stuck in her mouth, I did have to pull/pry the upper baby canine tooth on Weds and plan on having the vet check that when we go in for the spine x-ray to make sure it didn’t break off when I removed it.>
Yes definitely! And to keep all things happy and fun with you, have someone else pull her teeth LOL!
If you do repeat the tapping, grab some video!
Nice work here, keep me posted!Tracy
Hi!
I admit to laughing when he went rocketing by the prop (like Kramer from Seinfeld entering a room), did not get the click, then rage barked at you LOL! He is so fun!I totally see what you mean about the hits being clearer and more obvious on your right side. When he is on your left side, he looks at you more – it might be a value question where he has also gotten value for looking at you (informal heeling or loose leash walking) on your left side.
To balance it – keep marking/rewarding for hitting the prop when he is on your right side, that was great. And when he is on your left side, you can mark/reward for looking at the prop on his way to it. You had some good clicks towards the end of the session for that, and it really helped! If you are marking for looking at the prop, it will be earlier and he doesn’t have to touch it (for now). Soon you will be able to mark for hitting it on your left side too.
And to keep him looking forward, having the treats ready to toss and using the ‘get it’ without the click will help him look ahead more on both sides.
He did well with the turn and burn here! Love the new door behind him too 🙂 It is possible that he hasn’t wrapped this particular basket at first, so he couldn’t quite sort it out with the toy excitement. The food lure helped and then he did really well. There was something on the table that was distracting him a bit but also those were left turns, which we know are harder.
For the next turn and burn session, start with a little warm up and when he says “yes, I remember the barrel” you can add more countermotion: when he is wrapping, you will do a FC and move away on an L-shaped line. In this video, it would be towards the door or towards the camera, depending on which direction you are going.
Great job here!
Tracy
Hi!
It looks like he was great at the seminar! I love the song too 🙂>Tribute was a little stuck at first. However, when he got going he was fantastic!>
Yes! He had a big lightbulb moment then did great!
> Following the handler – Tribute is still not overly thrilled with driving to a dead toy. However, my forward movement helped a little.>
To help jump start the driving to the dead toy: if you have other people around like at a seminar, you can have the toy on a line and as soon as you start driving to it, the other person can drag it for him to chase. Then you can fade out the dragging more and more until it is stationary.
> Reverse wrap on a wing – These went reasonably well! I was less coordinated than he was!>
Yes! And based on how well he did when he was offering the jump, I bet he will offer the wing wrap for that game too.
> Lead changes on a series of wings – Tribute does not have a working startline and has an issue with collar grabs so I couldn’t do many of these.
It looks like he was on a line so he didn’t have to have a collar grab, and that worked well.
> developing a startline stay (work in progress!)>
Let me know how the stay is going or if he is having trouble!
Nice work here 🙂
Tracy
Good morning!
She did GREAT with the toy on the ground here!! Well done! I think she had a tiny bit of trouble processing the verbal: is it a cone directional, or a get the toy marker? So sometimes she would choose the wrong behavior based because she hadn’t really processed the word before she moved. What you can do for that is after she walks back to the cone with you, gently hold her collar so you can say the verbal 3 or 4 times, then let her go. She still has the agency to do the wrong thing, but the collar hold will help her process the verbal so she is likely to get it right 🙂
For the next session, keep going with walking away from the toy like you did here. And you can add in doing a FC after the cone: can she process a side change? And if that goes well, add in a decel and pivot before driving to the toy.
She did great with the parallel path game! Yay! At this stage, we can change the timing of your ‘get it’ marker: rather than reward for getting over the bar, you can mark earlier. Basically, you are rewarding commitment now: mark and throw as soon as you see her approaching the bar, but before she gets to it and before she looks at you. This will strengthen commitment even more and keep her looking straight ahead 🙂
Great job!
Tracy
Good morning!
> tried using shorter throws. 90% of the time, he still turns back towards me. he puts himself perpendicular to the wall then turns back to where I was. seems he’s almost afraid of my sneaking up behind him. not sure what to try next.>
Two ideas for you:
– If you were working on one direction (such as getting him to rear cross to his right), try switching sides to get him to rear cross to his left. You might find one side easier than the other for him.
– if he is turning the wrong way, it is entirely possible that you are not visible on the new side early enough for him to turn towards you in the new direction. He might be a fast eater 🙂 With the goal being that you get all the way past his shoulder and eyes on the new side before he finishes the cookie, you can throw several cookies to keep him busy for longer, so you have more time. And you can also use a bowl with a small bit of cream cheese in it for him to lick – that way you have more time too 🙂 That way, it won’t matter if he is perpendicular to the wall because you will have several more seconds to be fully visible on the new side to get him to turn the new direction.
> i also don’t know what to do about collar grabs. we practice them and he is fine, but when we add the game to them, he won’t come for the cookie, no matter how high value. he just wants to get on with the game. >
Awwww he loves to play with you! Cool! Ok looking at it from the perspective of he is enjoying the play and the ‘work’, you can lure him in with a cookie (a GREAT cookie) and maybe even a hand touch. And as soon as he comes in close to you – send him into a game. Then you can lure him in close to you, add in the barest hint of touching the collar… then boom! Right into a game (can be as simple as a chase-the-cookie game 🙂 ) And definitely don’t move him around by the collar, lots of pups don’t like it and will avoid that happening. Lots of quick fun reps with quick releases into the game will help build the collar grab into a fun thing!
Keep me posted!
TracyGood morning!
She did really well with the sideways and backwards sending, even with you holding the big toy. Super! Your connection and verbals were spot on so she did really well. Yay! You can start moving away a little sooner, to add countermotion – when she is just a couple of inches away from arriving at the barrel, you can slowly start moving the other direction.
One thing that I noticed is that she doesn’t always know how to release the toy then NOT re-grip or jump up for it when you are getting it into position for the next rep. Using the treat like you did at 1:10 and 2:17 worked well! You can also reward with the toy if she doesn’t jump up, using your ‘strike’ marker, like this:
She doesn’t have to sit like Jitterbug did in the 2nd half of the video – she just needs to not grab it 🙂>This is round two. The first round she snagged the toy out of my hand after the third rep and went leaping and zooming all over the couches, living room etc. When I finally caught here I put her up and played with Sprite for a bit. I’m working too hard to try to engage her. She isn’t naturally wanting to engage and is more interested in her environment.>
I think you will get more engagement if you don’t give a time out for that 🙂 The catching her, time out, then hearing/seeing Sprite play is significant enough of a punisher that I think it is actually increasing interest in the environment and decreasing engagement, rather than decreasing running off. Instead, if she starts to have a Living Room Zoomfest, just don’t react at all. Either wait for a few seconds and see if she can chill herself out. Or just offer her a better toy or a couple of treats scattered on the floor to come back 🙂
Will the treat scatter or new toy reward/increase running off? I am thinking it will not – it will reduce the pressure by reducing the possibility of punishment/increasing the availability of reinforcement, so she is more likely to engage!
Nice work here!
Tracy
