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Hi! Nice session here!
The circle wraps are going well! You caught yourself moving forward too ealry on the 2nd full run, which does push her off to the #3 jump. But on all the others you held your position until she passed you and everything looked terrific: turns, jumping, line, etc. Super nice!
>>Did my best to sabotage her tight turns out of the tunnel by being out of position.>>
Ha! Yes – your tunnel exit was correct when she was too tight . You had really strong brake arms and verbals there and they were very timely so she turned really well. Then you were finished with the FC and in threadle position, so she was perfect! You don’t need to start the FC until she is out of the tunnel and sees the jump (on your left side) then you can go to the FC.
Great job!!!
Tracy
Good morning!
The threadle slice reps are looking good! He is understanding the concept for sure – the timing of the info on the last run was the best: at 1:12, at landing, he was already getting BC info for the BC. You probably don’t need to start the ‘in in’ verbal that early because we don’t want the in in on that jump. So it can be his name for the blind, followed by the in in as he is approaching takeoff for the BC jump – that will apply the in in more directly to the threadle jump.And you can run more directly to the wing of the backsde/threadle jump during the BC – if you move out to center of the bar then push back into the threadle, then he will possibly have to adjust mid-air and that can contribute to the bar coming down on the first full run there. Also, the timing on the run where the bar came down was later (the blind was happening as he was over the bar) so that also contributed – the earlier timing definitely helped!!
For the threadle wrap – this is officially the summer of Threadle Wrap Fluency! Oh boy, do we need them now! And the way it is being used in course design, it is soooo advantageous to have it!
You can work this skill on a lower jump height to help him get organized. Full height is pretty hard!
And decelerated motion also really helps:
If you decel and set up the wrap (like we would on all types of wraps), he gets it really well! Look at :48 to :53 and 1:58-201, for example – you changed you motion and that cued the collection and allowed him to process the cue.
Other good decels were atThen he gives you *your* cue to move forward again, which is when he looks at the bar AND takes that first wrap step in the correct direction (to the left here).
If you don’t decelerate and keep moving forward, like :57 – 1:00 then also later at 1:23-1:25, he has a conflicting indicator: go forward with motion? Or turn away? So he goes forward with motion (you decelerated after he was well past the jump).
Also, consistently placing the reinforcement on the landing side of the jump (tossing it after he commits while you move forward) will help a whole lot – he was getting his rewards mostly after the tunnel here which doesn’t help if your motion is not clear 🙂 So rewards for the jump specifically even as you move forward will really help!
Nice work here! Stay cool!
Tracy
Hi! Thanks for posting the run!
Nice long lead out – wow! He stood up but held his stay, good boy!
The BC to the first tunnel was a little late – he was already lifting for the spread when you started it – so he did read the correct line but it looks like he didn’t see the side change. The ideal timing on AKC distances for him would be to start the BC when he is over the 2nd jump so he sees it just about finished before he takes off for the 3rd jump. (He was supposed to take the tunnel as 4, not the jump, right?)Earlier info will help with the bars – like a clearer RC line after the frame, pushing into the center of the bar to get the left turn.
Did he self-release on the teeter a couple of times? You can reset him so you can show him the line to that pinwheel jump, to help smooth out that line – you were pulling away too soon so he was following that motion.
Nice weave at the end!! Nice job!
TracyI’m sure it will be discussed at camp!
If you are handling from the landing side of a backside, where she has to put the jump between you and her, it is a push cue. There are generally 2 push cues: push to slice (I say back) and push to wrap (I say dig)If you are handling from the takeoff side, where she has to come between you and the jump, then it is a threadle cue. And there are generally 2 threadle cues too: threadle to slice (I say close, but most people say in in) and threadle to wrap (I say in in on that one).
Let me know if that makes sense!
TracyGood morning!
Super nice practice here! A good warm up for the trial!!
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> Yes! The verbals can come sooner but also, she was seeing you decelerate before the tunnel, and not moving on the exit. The decel/being stationary was causing her to collect, and that was definitely contributing to her turning towards you after the tunnel and collected between the jumps too.
So, along with the early verbal, use more motion:
As she is heading to the tunnel, let her see you start moving up the line (parallel to her line) so motion supports the distance line too. You might need to go closer to the tunnel so you have more room to run up the line without getting too far ahead on a small space like this.Great job here! Have fun at the trial!!
TracyHi!
I see what you mean about him having a struggle – there was definitely something pulling his focus in the environment, like when he exited the tunnel and lifted his nose in the air. It is possible he smelled or heard something, maybe fireworks or fireworks residue? Or maybe he needed a day off, because working in the heat can deplete brain and body. Hard to know, but you were wise to cut him some slack and let it go for the day.The reps here were really good! I liked his wraps! The collection cues were coming sooner, as he exited the previous jump. That allowed him go set up collection before takeoff and really bend over the bar. Yay!
One thing that is visible from this angle is that the tunnel entry near the camera is a little offset, so he would need to push away to get it. That is why he is a little sticky there. So you can factor that extra push on the line to help him, or more the jump out a little more so the tunnel entry is more on his landing line.Let me know how he does this weekend! It is hard weekend for dogs (heat, fireworks, etc) so trying things that are fast and fun might be most helpful.
Great job here!
TracyYou can walk it without her, then maybe run it with one of your experienced dogs? That way you will be prepared to support Kishka – the experienced dogs don’t need as much help 🙂
Ah yes! It is funny that my bird app did not recognize it – we have crows here but the American ones must sound different 🙂
Good morning!
Look at her looking at the jump on the stay on rep 1! Yay!!
The bark arm on 3 worked well! When you had the clear, almost chopped brake arm she read it better than soft or flowy arm cues.
For example at :09, the arms cues were too flowy and she didn’t read them.You had a more powerful brake arm and the spin at :23 and she got it – yes, she went a little wide (possibly assuming it was the tunnel before she realized it was not) but she still read the turn.
The rep at :38 got flowy again and the spin was late, so she didn’t read it (I like the spin here but I think the strong brake arms are the major part of the cue(.
The ‘chop’ of the brake arms got the info to her at :47! And REALLY nice at :56!!! So definitely use a big clear “chop” of the arms to help cue the turns.
After about the 1:00 mark, bars were down a lot. Part of it was that you were less connected and deciding to rotate or not (so she was not getting the info as early), and part of it was that she was trying to really sort out the handling: turn or go to the tunnel? And also possibly fatigue from doing a lot of jumps – even on a short sequence, the number of jumps can add up if she does a bunch of reps in a row. There were 10 or 11 reps here, with 4 or 5 jumps in each plus the tunnel. So that means she is at or over 50 jumps in this short session… so the fatigue is a real possibility! You ended on a good run but you can also shorten the sessions so you do 3 or 4 then give her a break and try again the next day : )
Nice work here!
Tracy
Hi! I think these went well! And spreading it out makes it more realistic for what you will see at a trial.
Pop out 1 – good job staying in motion on these!
The opening looked really good – Nice send to the start jump, made the BC on the tunnel exit easy!
She kept turning right on ump 5. I think you wanted a left turn? So a right turn there was because of handler pressure, looking like a RC or a send to the right. Turning to the left sets a better line and gets you to better position for the next FC , so turn your your shoulders more to the left turn and keep turning until you see her change directions to begin turning left.She had a question at 3 on run 2 (:29) – a little too mcuch handler pressure towards the jump looked like you were sending her away to 5.
Getting the cross begin 6 and 7 worked really well!! Nice! Handling from the landing side of 7 didn’t work as well, you would need to be further across the bar to be able to turn her away but with her speed, it is hard to get there.
Sequence 2:
At 1:44 she saw the threadle arm before she entered the tunnel along with lateral movement and she got a really nice turn! It put you in a good position for the tight turns after that. On this sequence with the threadles,
Remember to keep running and not standing still and sending.Seq 3:
This had good motion from you, definitely keeping you moving which is great!
You can line her up on a slice at 1 so you don’t need a cross, that way you can cue her dog on right 1-2.
A strategy suggestion: The backside at 4 is easier and faster on the slice than the FC or BC to a wrap (2:41 and 2:44 and 2:56 had a bar down on the wrap).
Letting her stay on her line after the tunnel to do the 4 backside as a slice (slicing towards the tunnel) will also set up the 5 backside differently – you can BC the exit of the 4 backside and she can do the 5 backside from your left side, slicing away from the tunnel. That sets a really nice line to the end!
>>Is it possible to get a course map early for next live as have to get it printed out at a frieds when she is home and that can get interesting with time differences and her having a life…>>
I can get the setup map to you about 36 hours in advance, will that work?
Great job here!
Tracy
Thank you for posting this, I love these types of videos! It really helps us work out what is motivating/engaging for him in terms of rewards and motivators!
Looking at it with an outsider’s eye… I think he was motivated to do the wing and interested in the toys here… but only if they were moving. When the toy bounced on the first rep? He pounced right on it. When it was ‘dead’ on the next rep, or the next toy was dead? Not interesting. But he was still engaged because when you put the first toy on the top of the crate, he was looking at it like “maybe you can throw it, please?”
And yes, he was interested in food, which is probably more engaging when the toy is not moving.
So for the toys, like the first one here:
Attach it to something you can drag.. Toss it to the landing spot and then drag it for him to chase. I think that will be very motivating I think he was saying: I like these but I don’t like them if they are just laying thereThen he was distracted by the toy on top of the crate, which means it still had value.
So try throwing a toy you can drag for him to chase as it moves and bounces. And when he gets to it, you can even toss it again so he can chase it a bit more.
Bear in mind that this will be a lot more energetic and therefore more ‘expensive’ for him physically and mentally. So do maybe 2 reps then tell him that he has to take a break (he will think that is *stooooopid!*) It is always better to leave him wanting more and then come back later for another one or 2 reps. That way he is always working at a high level of engagement and motivation, which then makes all of the sessions easier and more fun!
Great job here!
TracyGood morning!
Yikes, it sounds so hot there! Is it any better at dawn?
Mountain climbers are going well – those salmon treats were very well-received LOL! He looked very excited by them!
>he would prefer to turn around and walk down the plank rather than be lifted off, goofy boy.>
Once they get used to the board, a lot of dogs prefer to turn around on their own and that is fine (it is actually good body awareness!)
>>He’s not driving as much tonight>>
It seemed like he was happy to go up the board, but he was watching your magical salmon hands so looking back to you if you were behind. Try staying ahead of him for now and see if that helps draw him straight up the board. It is possible that the salmon value was so high that it was distracting, especially before dinner 🤣. And you can also work on sending him to the reward at the top of the board without you moving at all.
Looking at the sequences:
The BC to the tunnel is going well, especially when you have momentum into it like at :45, that was super nice!
>>I know I accidentally did an FC in one direction when I back chained the blind crosses (0:27).>>
That was on the 2nd rep – he moved before the release which might have thrown you off, and the FC will feel more natural if you are pretty stationary – so it did work fine here 🙂
>>I chose to go ahead and do the longer sequence instead of re-doing the back chain. >>
I think that was smart – it adds the momentum into the blind and it is fun for him!
Looking at timing and blinds:
>>I have the bars set at 6″ and he knocked 2 of them during the session. Is that a concern? Should I drop them to 4″? He’s 15″ at the withers so he’ll be jumping 16″ and he’s 13 mos old.>>
The bars will sort themselves out as he gets more experienced (and when the world is not as hot as the surface of the sun).
I think one bar down (:45) was a late blind and calling him over the bar. He tried to adjust and didn’t quite get it done in time.
Compare to 1:08 were your BC started right on time (landing from the previous jump so yo user finished and re-connected before takeoff for the BC jump. He had a great turn and the bar stayed up 🙂 This was your best timing of the whole session, just lovely!!!
The BC at 2:03 was not quite as perfect in terms of timing (one stride later so the BC was in progress as he was jumping the BC jump but not finished yet) – but the info was still good and the bar stayed up there too.
The 2:45 (turning right) was also a little late but still he was able to read the info to organize his jumping.The other bar was at 2:44 on the pinwheel jump – maybe it was a little fatigue? The heat really saps all of us. It is also possible that he is still learning to organize the right turns. They seem less strong than the lefts, so he might be more of a lefty at the moment than a righty. But it all balances out as he gets experienced – he is working really well!
One thing about the BCs is that you are showing really nice connection on the exit of the BCs – low arm and eye contact really helped make it clear for him! Nice!
>>There’s a failed lead out at the far jump (1:41). >>
It was very close to being perfect! His stay looked good – the one thing you can do to support him finding the jump is when you start moving then release him, move on a parallel line to his line supporting the jump from a distance, and don’t turn to jump 2 until you see liftoff for jump 1. You turned to 2 right after you released at 1:43, so he came with you.
If that happens, you can continue the sequence as if he took jump 1 because it is a small blooper that can be fixed later. And starting that line without a stay worked great!
He got distracted by something at 2:19 which is why he came off the line and didn’t take the BC jump (it was one of those rare times where it wasn’t a handler error, but he appreciated the cookies anyway 🙂
The last line looked good – fast and fun! Excellent!!!
Great job here! Hopefully your heat wave breaks SOON!!!!!!!Tracy
Good morning!
Great job with this game, especially in the heat! I think these 2 videos are the same, but with different titles? One might have gotten loaded twice (or you are VERY consistent in how you do things in a training session 🤣🤣)
I think his commitment is looking good and he seems very happy to end the wings and the tunnel! Yay! Your connection is really strong too – he is ready for you to add a little more distance between the wings and tunnel, so with the added distance make sure you add even more connection on the sending.
And great job with your verbals!
Only one suggestion:
Use a marker for the food throw, like ‘get it’ or something. Note how he drops his head to look for the cookie in places he has gotten it previously, like the tunnel exit or after a wing wrap. I don’t think he is stress sniffing, I think he is looking to see if you have thrown the reward 🙂 So adding the marker right before you throw will really clarify that for him: keep your head up and running until mom says “get it”, then look for the treat.
Great job here! Stay cool!
Tracy
Hi!
The plank work is going well! She is sorting out her balance (only fell off once :)) and moving pretty fast. So…. What have you decided to do with your dog walk contact? I think before you do more with the plank, you can work some dog walk end behavior stuff so she doesn’t practice leaping up a bit. She definitely seems ready for that!I think you still did really well on the sequencing – these are harder!
The circle to the tunnel had great connection, be sure to drive all the way to the tunnel. It is not her favorite thing yet, especially when she is on your left, so she is not leaving you in the dust for it. Driving her all the way to it then rewarding the exit will help build the independence.
On thing to ramp up is the exit line connection after the blinds at :47 and 1:52. You were looking forward for a little too long so she drifted wide waiting for more info. Try to look back to her with your eyes and dog-side arm pointed back to her, so she knows exactly where to be: that connection tells her exactly where to be!
You can see it was much clearer after the blind at 1:44, and it was perfect at :49 after the spin!
When you did more sequencing at the end of the video:
Be sure to stay connected on the sends and keep facing the jump at 1:29 until you see her lifting off for the jump. You were a tiny bit too early here to turn to the next line, so she pulled off. You can also throw rewards to landing spot of that jump to help get even more commitment and don’t look forward on the sends: look at her so he can see where you chest is pointing. That will help smooth out the line and keep her looking forward.
Nice blind at 2:05! I don’t think you can say “yes” or praise her when you are sequencing, it draws her off the line and focuses her on you (I learned the hard way not to say yes or praise by pulling my dogs off the line LOL!!) So keep connected and keep delivering cues (jump!) as the form of praise then you can praise/reward at the end of a sequence.
Looking at the teeter: the first 3 reps were good! Those had no wing and no running from you.
At 1:08 when you ran more – it was too hard and she bailed off. She did go back to moving up the board, but was watching you.
So for now, stick a little closer t support her and stick to 2 or 3 reps total: leave her wanting more!The other thing you can do is have a more mind-blowing reward at the top. She is eating the cookie but it is not a powerful enough reward to get her tp ignore everything else. So a dab of peanut butter or cream cheese can be perfect! A friend of mine was at my house using my teeter for her tiny dog and using fish skins at the top of the teeter. GROSS but incredibly effective, that 10 pound dog was driving to the top no matter what the handler did. Crazy high value rewards can make a huge impact!
Great job here 😁
Tracy
