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Good morning!
The old dude was really excited by all the speed and fun! I am glad he got a turn 🙂
Looking at the go-straight reps: you were really far ahead on the first rep, with clear connection, and she read it great!
>And then we just couldn’t get it (not all failed reps included>
On that rep at :56, you were not as far ahead and not as connected as she exited, and you were decelerating before she exited the tunnel which was a little too early.
>I stopped the session to watch the video and troubleshoot (click, treat), and as I did the solution occurred to me to try starting more lateral and using some convergence to keep her going straight after the tunnel which worked great. >
Yay for video watching!!! Definite click/treat!! The convergence also added more motion and more connection… all of that worked together to get great lines at 1:07 and on the last rep. Super!!
The soft turns to the left and right went well too. Nice timing!!! With the bigger courses in mind – you can play with peeling away laterally and *not* using deceleration to get the turn. If she sees your line before she enters the tunnel, she should turn. We can use brake arms as well – all in the name of getting you way ahead on course.
>And I think this was the first time I’ve ever rear crossed a tunnel with her and I could definitely see her slow down and think REAL HARD as she went in the tunnel… “WHAAAAT?” If only the camera had been set up to see her face!>
Yes, it would be so funny to see their faces when we add new cues LOL!!
The rear crosses went great! The first one at :28 to the left went really well. At 1:28 to the right, the RC info was late – she saw you moving on the ‘go straight’ line then just as she entered, you did the RC.
But compare that to the next RC rep – you started closer to the wing and set the RC line much earlier, so she saw it before going into the tunnel – perfect!!!
Great job here!!!
Tracy
Good morning!
>We started the tight blinds to wraps. OMG, half the time I’m using the wrong words, especially when I added the second wing.>
To help with this and with the lines for the crosses, do you walk the sequences as if walking a course before you run him? Walk them first with the verbals – then run them without him. You can video it and then do a quick watch to see if you have the verbals and lines in the right places.
>If any of these are actually correct, then I can do better next time.>
All of the single blinds were correct! My only suggestions on those are too emphasize making the re-connection after the blind quickly and more directly back to him. You were rewarding from the dog-side hand, which is fine but be sure you are using a marker for it (it was hard to hear if you were or not) – that way he will know where to look (at the toy if there is a marker, or at the next wing if there is no marker) when the toy is right in front of his eyes 🙂
When adding the 2nd wing, you were doing a spin on it for most reps and that was good too – you can send more into it rather than go to the wing with him, which will allow you to start the FC element sooner which in turn allow you to start the BC element sooner. That way you will be finished with the BC and off his line as you cue him for the tunnel 🙂 The last rep was a FC on the wing and a RC on the tunnel, which is good to practice too! You can add a bit more countermotion to the FC on the middle wing, and then take him to the other side of the tunnel.
Nice work here!
TracyOh no! Poor Indy!!!! I can ask my flyball folks what they use to toughen up pads. My dogs run around on sightly abrasive/rocky surfaces, which toughen their pads up.
T
Good morning!
>She seems to be doing well with her start line stays.>
I agree – her stay is going really well! A good stay makes these lead outs sooooo much easier.
>>I do randomly reward them but she actually seems annoyed by that. In this session I did try throwing the toy back to her but she didn’t seem to understand that either.>>
Yes, a lot of Border Collies prefer to be released to run rather than eat a cookie in that moment 🙂 She is probably just inexperienced with the toy being thrown back to her – I bet she catches on after seeing it a bit more (she does love the frisbee!)
The sequences are looking really good!
The FC and BC openings went well – my only suggestion is to be closer to 3 as you release her, as that gives her even more early information about where she is going next. And definitely use the stay to get past 2 before you release her – she got mad at you at 1:38 when you released her before you got to 2, which made the FC late.
She read the lead out ‘push’ at 1:29 really well too, that rep had her best turn on 2! When you start moving, you can move more forward to 3 (you were backing up a bit there).
>I also did a rear cross because that is my default behavior. LOL.
>The RC looked great! You can also start her on your right side at 1 and rear cross the 3 jump. That is a useful move as well!
Great job here! Let me know what you think!
Tracy
Hi!
I hope all is well with your parents!The dogs did well on these videos 🙂
Video 1, backside wraps: she had a couple of commitment questions here –
When she passes you on the way to the backside, no need to keep your dog side arm wrapping across the bar too – it slows down your motion and makes you twist around more than needed.
Instead, after she passes you, you can use your opposite arm to point to the landing spot (or throw the reward to it) as you look at the landing spot. That will help get the commitment while allowing you to continue moving forward.Fusion (2nd video) – She did well here too! For the BC at :12, start it when she is at jump 1. Yo started it as she was arriving at jump 2, so sh was not able to see the side change in time.
2nd run looked really good! Nice connection! Keep moving to the tunnel at :36 (more like what you did at :51). You can also do a blind cross to pit her on your right side, which will set a better line to the side of the tunnel you wanted
InSynch pop out 1: looked great! You wrapped her to the inside (right turn) – on a setup like this, you can place with wrapping to the outside (left turn, probably with a RC) and then we can see which is faster!
InSynch’s 2nd pop out looked great too! Like with the first one, you can play with wrapping her to the outside line because it might be faster (due to finding a better line on the next section).
Also be sure she doesn’t start without you 🙂 You can ask her to sit and wait after the leash comes off so you can at leash put it down 🙂
Great job!
TracyHi! This went really well, he was pretty perfect on reading the jump cues!
>Did a set of all the jump approaches being ahead and then a set tucking more into the wing wrap.>
They all looked super! So the next challenge is so tuck right into the wing wrap… and release him as soon as he gets into position (rather than run past him then release him). That will potentially put you behind or parallel to him, which makes things harder of course 🙂
And you can sometimes deliver a reward, so he is not only getting released as he hits position, he will also be getting rewarded for hitting and holding position 🙂
>Also some dirty jump handling and effort cookie/hand touch cookie if bar dropped.>
Dirty handling is looking good too!
Your timing might be to a little too good on some of the rewards for the harder jump challenges 🙂 – the toy was thrown but he dropped the bar. To prevent that, you can delay the toy throw to not reward a dropped bar – you can swing the arm as if throwing it, and then only actually throw it if the bar stays up. He was able to call off the thrown toy, but the association of toy throw with the jumping that hit the bar is something we’d like to avoid 🙂
Great job here!
TracyHi!
Tunnel sends looked great to start, no problem at all. Then she was a bit on autopilot for the first weave send on each side, and went o the tunnel (the younger dogs all did the same thing LOL) I will chalk that up to lack of experience with this type of challenge – she got much better as the session went on and had very few errors! Super! And the harder entries were actually easier for her, she did great on those.
Two things you can add to this setup to add challenge:
– Curve the tunnel a little so the entries are very visible as she is heading to the poles
– Mix in more tunnel balance rep, so she has to really listen to the cue and doesn’t assume it is the weaves or tunnel based on what she did on the previous rep.
Great job here! Onwards to the countermotion!
Tracy
Hi!
Another puppy? Do tell!
This went really well! After the first couple of tunnel sends, she was definitely in tunnel mode so had a couple of misses on the weaves. She was not perfect when she did get them the first time, so you can reward the effort for getting into the weaves rather than tunneling even if the weaving is not perfect. And definitely mix in some tunnel reps too, so she doesn’t go on autopilot 🙂 That way you can be more sure that she is processing cues and not doing what she just did on the previous rep. She had a little trouble later in the video, but as you said – I think she was trying to go fast 🙂 and needed to slow herself down.
You can also switch sides in the same session – that keeps things spicy and fun if sometimes she is on your left and sometimes on your right.
Nice work here! Safe travels and I am excited to hear about the puppy!!
Tracy
Good morning!
The one jump work looked great in both directions, she was serping really well! Smooth and fast, the lead changes looking pretty effortless!
Adding speed was harder, of course – and as you mentioned, it went a lot better when you were in great position with a clear serp arm on the 2nd half of the session (dog-on-left). Yay!
When adding speed with you running – yes, keep going for the great position and you can also angle the serp jump to face the line ever-so-slightly so she can maintain her speed and still get the serp-in-then-out. That way you can still get the serp without being in that perfect position. This will help when you add the games coming from the tunnel too!
Did you catch what she did from :59 – 1:02? You asked her to sit and then you led out, all good. She started to sniff her butt then remembered she was working, so she whipped back around, all without breaking the stay. It cracked me up!
Great job here!
Tracy
Good morning!
The wrap timing and cues were spot on, so she wrapped beautifully! You had nice deceleration too, so she collected and was able to turn tight and fast. Super!!
>I think I was using her name way too much. >
Yes, especially when she was on your right side at the beginning – it sounded like you were saying Go then her name, which can be a conflicting cue (to go or to turn?) That might be why she hit the bar, hearing Go and her name. On this type of sequence, you probably don’t need her name at all 🙂
You had some broken stays here – It is possible that she thinks the connection when you get to your spot and look back towards her is the release, or she is following the cookie hand.
You can clarify the release by leading out with connection, making a big connection when you get to your lead out spot, praising her – then either rewarding or releasing. That way she won’t move when she sees you turn your head back to you, and you can have a really strong connection before the release.Great job here!
TracyGood morning! This went really well! I think the spacing was good here – he was bouncing, which is what we want him to do. You can move the Manners Minder another 6 feet away from the 2nd jump, so he can power to it rather than decelerate to it.
You can ‘flatten’ the jumps a bit, so th outer wings get moved a little further away (the middle wings stay where you had them). When flattening it out, you might find that the spacing is too big and he adds a stride rather than bounces. If that happens, you can replace the jump bar with weave poles, because that will shorten the distance! let me know if that makes sense.
Great job here!
Tracy
Hi!
Run Wild then Canadian Open sounds like an epic road trip!
I sent you a link to someone’s page on FB. There was a really hard tunnel-jump-weave-countermotion challenge!
The session here went really well!! It looked like almost all of the hits were really good. You can reward a mediocre hit with an ‘effort cookie’ and save the toy for the great hits 🙂
>not a ton of bars and almost all my fault (totally stopping, being in his path, early toy toss). I want to proof against those things so they are explanations not excuses.>
You were not that much in the way, so you can set up jump stuff like this to proof it – I just wouldn’t do it at the same time you are also trying to reward good contact hits. You can deliberately get a bit in the way, move the toy early, etc… and give BIG rewards for keeping the bar up! I like to proof all the things they might see, and reward the dogs for keeping the bars up.
>so there’s some weird toy hand switching I would normally avoid here.
>I think it is good to do that! Otherwise everything is too “clean”. We want some dirty throws and timing, to help him learn to ignore the weird things that we humans do and keep the bar up 🙂
For the next contact exit game:
On this session, you were ahead of him for the jumps and tunnel as he exited the contact 🙂 So for the next session, start yourself closer to the wing so you are parallel to him as he exits the board and not ahead. Then start right at the wing, so you are behind him a he is going across the board – that will be hard but very useful!Nice work here!
Tracy
Holy wow, that is a great reason! Congrats on the new house – very exciting! I am excited to see you this weekend and we will work on them being less feral 🙂
Tracy
Hi! I agree, this went really well. His stay and hi commitment both looked super strong, which made it all easier!
A couple of suggestions:
The BC on rep 1 stared perfectly on time. Yay! Try to finish it faster – you finished it 2 steps later, so the reconnection on the new side ended up being a little late
For the lead out push (3rd rep) – get further across the bar of 2 and more in between the uprights before you release him. He turned after landing from 2, and being further across the bar will help him turn before takeoff.
>I cannot decide if my Fc at the end is late. >
Yes, it was a little late – you were only about halfway through it at 1:12 when he was taking off (ideally you’d be finished with it before he takes off for 2.) You can see he jumped straight then turned after landing. The blind works really well in that scenario, so you can use the blind there and not worry about the FC.
Great job!
Tracy
So if everything is looking good medically, soft tissue, and orthopedically, and she is not doing it on courses…
I vote that we stop doing jump grids because they are creating a weird behavior and we do not know why. Do I get a vote? Ha!
No need to rehearse an undesired behavior when we can get the desired behavior in other ways! We can show her different heights and striding on sequences, and there are fun conditioning games with jumps that can help add height, slices, etc. Let me know what you think!
Tracy
