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  • in reply to: Brandy & Nox (3 year old Sheltie) #47093
    Tracy Sklenar
    Keymaster

    Hi!

    This video is marked as still processing… youtube is a pain sometimes! Can you repost?

    >>I think she was mostly relying on body cues at this point.

    That is fine! It is a new verbal and I dn’t want to give the mistaken impression that we only want verbals – physical cues are really important too.

    >>Finally, in your last email you told us to let you know if we wanted to do another live chat. I am always game for that, lol!>>

    Thanks for the reminder! Hmmm, maybe next Monday or Tuesday….

    T

    in reply to: Brandy & Nox (3 year old Sheltie) #47092
    Tracy Sklenar
    Keymaster

    Good morning!

    >>Since she has a tendency to leave me, especially when I disengage at all, I will often throw cookies for her and give her “search” cue, which means find food on the ground. I’ve been told by other trainers not to be a “Pez dispenser” and just give out cookies for nothing (although that was more for when she’s just standing next to me and I’m talking to the instructor, but it serves the same purpose)>>

    First of all, let’s get this straight: Pez is delicious crunchy sweetness and dispensing Pez makes everyone happy!!

    But in all seriousness… the concept of being a Pez-dispenser comes from back when we thought ALL learning was operant (which we now know is NOT the case and operant conditioning is a small piece). While it might look like “cookies for nothing” to others (I mean, everyone likes cookies for nothing, so I don’t see why that is bad either, feel free to give me cookies for nothing any time LOL!), it is actually very purposeful and intentional on your part: you recognize a struggle she has in arousal management and in ignoring triggers of the chasing or barking behavior, so you are setting up success during those “in between” moments. Plus, those Pezzy moments also foster a really happy feeling for you both – you are both relaxed and focused on the game – so you are getting a lovely positive conditioned emotional response, while also making things predictable in a good way!

    >> Do you think there’s an issue with my process or is it ok to use the cookies to keep her from leaving or getting super barky and angry? (Apparently “barky” is not a word. How is that possible, lol?)>>

    I have no issues with your process, and as someone who gets to see you and Nox semi-regularly – the improvements in all areas on course are BIG so clearly you are doing the right things in many ways!

    What is happening when you dispense the Pez is neurobiological (internal state conditioning, resilience conditioning) and not operant – so the aforementioned Pez is not a reinforcement and therefore does not need to be ‘earned’. If anyone wants more info, I will pull up the studies 🙂 And you can tell folks that you are using food in those in-between moments to keep her arousal in an optimized state. Just make sure she swallows the treats so she doesn’t choke them up LOL!

    So keep on Pezzing it up! And now I want some Pez. And my next puppy might be named Pez LOL! Plus, barky should totally be a word.

    Onwards to the video – she has made BIG STRIDES with finding the tunnel while you layered and run away!!! Yay! There is some real tunnel love building, and tunnel rage is reducing. Both sessions on this video looked great!

    And the cross to the threadle looked great – the BC is definitely harder (this is where she dropped the bar) but she sorted it out. There is a LOT of motion and that can make the tunnel more obvious to her, but the verbal and connection were saying ‘not the tunnel’ so she just needed to process it. I don’t think she had any other questions on it. I think the BCs put you on a better line than the FCs did, plus the BCs will keep you further ahead which is always a good thing.

    The mini sequence looked strong too – a “right” verbal on the tunnel to get the exit will probably make more sense to her, you don’t need to start the close verbal til she is facing the line to the jump the close is for. She exited turned but not really sure of where to go next, so a right verbal before she enters will help then you can switch to the threadle.

    Overall, this looked great!

    Tracy

    in reply to: Amy and Promise (sheltie) #47091
    Tracy Sklenar
    Keymaster

    Good morning!

    >> Some Issues with the threadle. Still not a strong skill for us. It’s low on the totem pole of things lol!!!>>

    You don’t really need to prioritize jump threadles til you start doing AKC Premier or higher level UKI courses.

    tunnel send looked good – try to add more distance each time you try these types of drills

    The FC to threadle looked really good! Nice line, connection, and timing!

    >>The first threadle she knocked the bar twice.>>

    My guess is that at full height, the visible toy plus you saying “get it” over the bar were what brought the bar down on those. You delayed the “get it” when you lowered the bar, both of which helped – but a big thing for her is to learn to ignore the distractions of the verbals while she is jumping, so keep talking over the full height bar but for now, make it a little easier by NOT having the toy there.

    Threadle slice on the other side looked good! You can call her before she takes off for the first jump, which will get her to start turning and will helped smooth out the line to the threadle, That way you won’t have to exaggerate that much.

    Great job working on the threadle wrap!!! It is definitely more of a rotated, slow motion move – there is decel and shoulder turn involved for sure. So as you add these to sequences, be sure to work each element in decel: turning your shoulders and feet away from the slice line (otherwise it will look like a threadle slice), grabbing her attention with your hands to flip her to the wrap, then cuing the jump. If it feels like a slow motion move, it is because it is indeed a slow motion move 🙂

    >> Would like to be less rotated, but had to be more exaggerated to get it.>>

    As she learns it more, you won’t need as much exaggeration. But the decel is the key and you did a lovely job showing it to her 🙂

    Nice work! Let me know what you think!
    Tracy

    in reply to: Kim and Sly (3 year old Cocker Spaniel) #47090
    Tracy Sklenar
    Keymaster

    Good morning!

    The moving games are just as important because they teach the dogs to process ALL the parts of handling, not just verbals and not just feet! Plus it is fun to run run run 🙂

    On the first video:
    The tunnel send was great!
    On the blinds – you can be sooner to start (and therefore finish :)) the blind and also be closer to the jump. If you move away from the jump to give him room – it takes out the need to threadle , but that position also opens up the possibility that it is the tunnel 🙂 So he ends up wider and with a little question :13)
    You had earlier timing on the next rep, but the line was a little wider so he was a little wider.

    At :26 I loved your timing and line – you cued the backside there (nailed it!) but you can also use the same line and threadle to the front of the jump. That line makes it a lot clearer that it is NOT the tunnel. :31 was good too!

    I grabbed some screenshots because the visuals might help explain this:
    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ukb9T4R5-fWxVyENapetiYYW00tr4ARlHl-KRVuaE7w/edit?usp=sharing

    The threadle slice had a bit of a Goldilocks approach:
    Not quite enough info at :37 – he never really got a jump cue so he didn’t take the jump after the barrel.
    Toooo much jump info at :45 – you were clearer about the jump but didn’t cue the threadle til after he landed.
    :59 and then 1:04 was just right 🙂 He got the jump info AND the threadle info.
    Then it was great to see him alternate between the jump and threadle – NICE! The only thing to add to the threadle is a bit of a turn cue on the jump before it. He only needs a little name call as he is approaching the jump after the barrel, so he can add a turn stride – then you can switch to the threadle cue. That turn stride will make the threadles much easier.

    >>Threadle Wraps are a LONG way from fluent!!!>>

    As he learns these, the main thing is to make the cues look and sound different. The line of motion/footwork here looked identical to the threadle slice. So to help him get the threadle wrap when there is motion, you can totally think of it as more of a pull-then-flip:
    As he is landing from first jump, you can pull him in by turning your feet towards the wall/doors and picking him up with your threadle hands (and verbal). Then you can flip him away – so your feet won’t point towards the threadle slice line at all. And that will make sense too, because the exit of a threadle wrap would be back towards the barrel (so turning your feet towards the wall/barrel helps) and the threadle slice would always exit parallel to the teeter.

    >> How would you like to do a 3 week session on just Threadle Wraps and Threadle Slices?>>

    Hmmm that is a good idea for a spring class or for a part of CAMP!

    Nice work here! Let me know what you think!
    Tracy

    in reply to: Forrest and Switch Aways and Super Combos #47089
    Tracy Sklenar
    Keymaster

    Good morning!

    >>Forrest decided the shortest distance between the jump on the right and the jump on the left was not THROUGH the tunnel but OVER it…oh well.>>

    HA! The joys of young dogs 🙂

    One thing to remember about adolescent dogs (and he is definitely an adolescent) is that during the learning phase, a session might seem like it was all poopy and nothing go taccomplished… but then latent learning kicks in and the next session is much better because the brain DID learn it and cemented it during the sleep between sessions (the neuroscience on this is fascinating and helps keep me calm when my adolescent dogs do funny things LOL!)

    >>I know I said I was going to get myself “in gear” but I can’t say I’m impressed with the gear I chose>>

    You were good!! I was happy with your gear 🙂 It might feel better if you leave the ball in the pocket til after the handling – on some of the reps, you had your hand in the pocket holdin the ball, which inhibits the handling. So feel free to use your hands for handling – the ball throw can be a bit later.

    Looking at the videos:

    First video – these were actually threadles on the backside of the jump (more like the mini sequences). They looked good – he did the 1st and 3rd rep brilliantly at a distance! The middle rep with the blooper was was only because you moved a little too soon.

    The reason they were the threadles and not switch aways was that he started on the turn-towards-the-momma side rather than the turn-away side of you. To turn them into switch aways – start on the other side of the tunnel, with him on your other side. So that way, you can set up the switch away with the outside arm

    2nd video – he definitely responds well to the opposide arm to switch away from the jump to the tunnel (:28). When you did the dog-side arm (1st rep) or the opposite arm was late (last rep), he was correct to keep goin gon his original line. So for the switch away – you can brinp your outside arm before he takes off for the jump, so as he is jumping you have his attention and then can use the arm to flip him away to the tunnel.
    Super combos –

    3rd video: Nice start to the super combos!!

    1st rep – good job going past the tempting tunnel entry!!! 2nd rep – he just needed on more step to get commitment to the jump. 3rd rep and 4th rep had that step so he nailed it. Yay!

    4th video –
    nice switch aways on the jump and tunnel on the first rep! You can use more of the opposite arm on the tunnel exit. For example, at :11. he is exiting and you are using your dog-side arm (right arm). That turns your chest/shoulders to the straight line which is why he didn’t turn til after you stepped to the jump. If you show him your left arm then ‘flip’ him away with it, his line will be smoother

    At :15 – he was perfect about coming past the tunnel but then you turned your back on him, so he didn’t know where to be and looked at you instead of taking the jump. I grabbed a screen shot of that moment so you can see what he saw:

    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HqbYkmBs78AKaoX8GxtFzT10Zh07zJilWMG7dhQGClg/edit?usp=sharing

    The start of the next rep looked good! And he jumped over the tunnel at :52, but that was a legit response from him 🙂 You were on his line, and his line told him to go over the tunnel (and you said over, so…. LOL!!!)

    I think what happened was that after the backside push (which was good!) you did a post turn so he ended up on the wrong line. After the backside, a FC or a spin will get him on the correct line (with no tunnel jumping :))

    I also put a screenshot of that into the doc so you can see why he jumped the tunnel:
    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HqbYkmBs78AKaoX8GxtFzT10Zh07zJilWMG7dhQGClg/edit?usp=sharing

    >>I really think I would be better at all of these if they were part of a course…at least I hope so….>>

    Absolutely! These drills have ALL the things all happening at once, no moment to get ready 🙂 A real course will have a lot more room and more time to show the handling. So a real course should be easier 🙂

    >>Glad we have til the 14th to submit as I definitely want to redo the Super Combos >>

    Plenty of time, and hopefully some good weather too! You are doing a fabulous job with getting these games posted 🙂

    Nice work here! Have a blast at the trial – because he is young and in a new place, remember to really exaggerate the connection and keep your arms back, pointing to his nose. Usually with young dogs, they need extra support at trials, so give big connection and go close to obstacles (closer than you would at home). And keep me posted! I am rooting for you!!!!

    Tracy

    in reply to: Ginger and Sprite( Aussie) working #47088
    Tracy Sklenar
    Keymaster

    Good morning!

    >>Basically this weeks switch aways are tandem turns, correct? I’m not great at those, but I can get Sprite to turn away easily on the flat.>>

    There are some similarities in the physical cues for sure! The positioning is a little different and also the implied distance and layering is different too – but the tandem turn foundation is how I teach this skill 🙂

    I am glad the park worked!!!

    She was fabulous on the big tunnel sending (no surprises there, but GOOD to know and also she kept the bar up on the jump before it (didn’t do anything crazy on the jumping effort there) – many tunnel-loving youngsters struggle with that bar especially when handler motion is going the other way and when the handler is talking over the bar.

    >> You asked me to start with the BC, but she slide by the jump. She did that a few times with the blind. Am I not doing something right with my shoulders? The forced front cross worked better in this set up for her.>>

    Yes, it was a little shoulder thing that you adjusted and she got it nicely – plus I think you might have been a little too far from the jump (pulling away towards the tunnel) at first.

    The timing of the BC at :08 (and after that) was great! When she did not get the jump, it was because your dog-side arm was pointing forward ahead of her. So even though you were connected and could see her, the arm position closed your shoulders forward so she ran by the jump. This is a pretty normal error for baby dogs who are learning the less intuitive stuff: in theory, that blind and cue should automatically indicate taking the jump even if the handling is not perfect. But youngsters are processing all the things that it is not unusual for them to slide by this jump (or serp jumps).

    So for now, stay a little closer and give her the BIG connection with the exaggerated dog-side arm back that you gave her when you broke it down, on the forced front crosses, and on the BCs later on. You won’t always have to do this, but she needs it for now 🙂

    Because I like visuals, I got some screen shots.
    The first one is when she ran past the jump (note arm position) The next one is when you broke it down. #3 is the exit of the forced front, and #4 is the exit after the blind. Note the difference between the dog side arm on #1, versus 2, 3, and 4. So that arm back to make connection is a big helper for her. (See below for the #5 screenshot info)

    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1f7jiB-KJeb8V1JlmfRYb4HmelG2O0PhAKQQn7wENXYs/edit?usp=sharing

    Mini sequence looked great! Nice job with the directional on the tunnel exit – perfect timing and her turn was lovely! And the threadle after the tunnel looked great: at :50, your connection and position was perfection and she was coming around the wing knowing completely where to go (I put a screenshot of that moment in the document too because it was perfection!)

    Big WOW on the threadle slice: check out Sprite reading the decel even though it was a little late and nailing the threadle, even though the tunnel is her fave and it was RIGHT THERE! YAY! You can start moving away for the threadle sooner, and also for a tight turn like she has on the first jump, you can use a collection cue: as she exits the start wing, give her a collection cue for the first jump then as she approaches that first jump, switch to a threadle cue for jump 2.

    Which collection cue? For bigger striding dogs, this situation is best for a wrap verbal because we want the big collection and a pretty immediate drive around the wing (I would use a wrap verbal with my Hot Sauce, who is similar to Sprite on course).

    The backside on jump 2 also looked really good! She did really well ignoring that big tunnel!

    Great job on these! Let me know what you think!
    Tracy

    in reply to: Helen & Nuptse/Changtse Working #47087
    Tracy Sklenar
    Keymaster

    Good morning!

    >>Worked on Around the Clock verbals.
    Changtse & I flunked. >

    I am sure you did not flunk! Don’t compare to Sly – he is more adult, more experienced, and working in his home turf. Changtse is less experienced and in a newer place. Kim say you two were fabulous and I believe Kim!

    >>This seems to be the most important part of this discrimination training, ie, getting to recognize the verbal for each obstacle. >>

    Yes and no. The verbal element is EXTREMELY helpful for sure! But it does not have to stand alone. Knowing how to handle it is also super important, especially while the young dogs learn the verbals. And some dogs are naturally more ‘verbal’ than others – Of the 4 dogs I am currently running: 2 of my dogs are very verbal and it is surprising how well they can respond to verbals. 2 of my dogs are not as naturally verbal and the physical cues will override the verbals, so I work to be sure I know what they need to see.

    She did well here on this video! Each time you play these games, you will see the behavior build. Great job making the verbals sound very different! And it seems like she is definitely thinking about processing verbals and was super successful here. YAY!

    Next step – add motion (can be on the this game or the next games, but either way you can be moving now). It should not be handling, necessarily, just moving. I call it “meandering” along the line, towards neither obstacle in particular, but moving forward at a walk. When you were stationary, it was actually harder for her because the decel conflicts with the extension required to drive to the obstacle. If you are moving, she will feel like she has more “permission” to drive to the obstacle you are cuing, especially if it is the outer obstacle.

    Great job here! Stay warm!!
    Tracy

    in reply to: Grumio and Tabitha #47086
    Tracy Sklenar
    Keymaster

    Good morning!

    >>I was watching ahead to the videos for Week 3 and noticed that during the “switches” you were giving the verbal, “Switch.” Is this a verbal that just means turn away from you? I know I hear many people saying this to cue rear cross changes on courses. Would it be appropriate to use right and left verbals when coming out of a tunnel instead of “switch?”>>

    Great question! Several folks asked this question, which made me have to really think about how to explain why I use switch here instead of just left/right (even though you can totally use left/right).

    For me, switch is a line cue (names a line and a scenario). A more common example of a line cue is when I would be yelling GO TUNNEL a thousand times to get the dog on a big line and it means “take everything on your straight line to the tunnel that, trust me, is out there somewhere”.

    So ‘switch’ is the similar context for a specific situation because it names an entire line and situation by meaning: “Turn away from me, we are both doing a u-turn, and I will be layering so stay out on your line at a distance”. So technically it is not a rear cross scenario, it is more like a tandem turn + distance + layering scenario. So just like “Go Tunnel”, the ‘switch’ cue names a complex behavior chain.

    I use left/right to mean “turn on this obstacle” and there is no real implication about what comes next, and there is not necessarily layering or distance involved. I cannot think of a time where ‘switch’ does NOT involve layering.

    >>I know I hear many people saying this to cue rear cross changes on courses.>>

    Yes, I hear that too – it might mean something different to those folks as in a simple “turn away from me” The issue with that is it does not provide enough info – “turn away HOW MUCH, mom?” And rear crosses can have a huge variety of exits – wraps, left/right, Go exits, etc. An example: I used to have a “turn away” cue but it frustrated my dog (Voodoo, who has BIG OPINIONS). He was like: you are slow, you are not visible, I know to turn away but I don’t know where to go next so I am ANGRY” haha! As soon as I changed to directionals for rear crosses, and switch for distance/layering, his rage went away 🙂

    So I use the directionals on that and save the switch for the big layering moments.
    Let me know if that makes sense, or if I need more coffee 🙂

    Stay dry, hopefully it clears up for a beautiful weekend! Have fun at the trial!

    Tracy

    in reply to: Kathy & Frankie (Boston Terrier) #47085
    Tracy Sklenar
    Keymaster

    Good morning!

    >>We are working on the verbal-only sends. We warmed up with these this morning. I stood in front of each obstacle and she is getting it.>>

    This went well! The first reps are the most important because that is when she is not in the rhythm of the game or trying to read your mind – and se did really well! It looks like the misses came later in the session – it is possibly that at that point she was into guessing more than she was into processing. So just a couple of reps as a warm up will probably be ideal.

    2 ideas for you –
    for the jump, you can mark and throw the reward soon: the instant she decides to begin moving to the jump, mark & throw. But mark with “get it” because if you say “yes”, she will probably turn around and face you 🙂

    And if she has an error, call her back immediately to reset, before she completes the obstacle: think of it as instant feedback. There was a rep where she did the tunnel when you cued the jump, but then she stood at the tunnel exit for a while, not sure of what was happening. It will be clearer if you call her back the instant you believe she is choosing the other obstacle.

    Verbals around the clock is also going well! And for a dog that loves tunnels, I am glad about how well she is choosing the jump (even if it was not what you were cuing :))
    When the wing is on the harder angle on either side, she needs a couple more steps of physical support to get to the further obstacle (whether it is jump or tunnel). This makes sense, because those outside obstacles require a LOT of strides from the small dogs!! And since agility is a handling game, it is fine to continue to give her that extra couple of steps as she learns to go past other obstacles and also as the verbals continue to build up.

    >>I’m thinking about what I say at a trial and I only say “jump” once when she reaches the takeoff point before a jump (ideally if my timing is right). I’m thinking about adding in “jump,jump,jump” when there is a discrimination challenge present – what do you think?>>

    Good question! If you say jump when she has arrived at the takeoff point, then my guess is that it is already a done deal 🙂 and she was going to jump even if you didn’t say it. Try adding the jump verbal to guide her to the jump – and start it as soon as she exits the previous obstacles. This means you can repeat it – it is less important if it is SUPER obvious, but really important when there is a discrimination or and distance element.

    Tunnel sends looked great, nice timing of the cues (note how the verbal cue started before she took off for the jump – yay!)

    She reads the blind crosses really well – try to keep them nice and early (aka on time LOL!) like you had it at :09-:10, where you were basically finished the blind before she took off for the first jump, which allowed you to set up the threadle for the second jump (which she did really well on!!!)

    When you were later on the blinds, she would be wider – an example is at :17, where you started the blind when she was already jump (compared to :10 when the blind was finished by that time). She landed at :17 and thought you wanted the tunnel. In this instance, she adjusted on the flat (good girl!) but it would not necessarily have been wrong of her to go to the tunnel.

    At :27, she took the front side of the jump. The blind was late starting here, so you didn’t get the connection and line to push the backside. The push cues started at :28 when she was already committed to the front side. Good job rewarding it!!! Soooooo many people would have blamed the dog but you felt that the handling could be clearer, paid her, then tried it again. Click/treat to you!

    Another click/treat to you for working the timing on the next rep (definitely much earlier) and the connection (note how you dipped your shoulder and made strong connection) and you were also on a great line. 3 excellent adjustments! I guess that would total out to be 4 click/treats for you 🙂

    The threadles are definitely the harder skills.

    On the threadle wraps, you had a lot of good info going, you just needed to decel a little more to be able to turn her away on the flat (like the maxpup switch aways).

    At the end you added that decel – watch her head and that will give you “permission” to cue the jump. What I mean by that is – keep turning her on the flat, don’t indicate the jump til you see her head turn the correct direction and she takes a step that direction. It will feel like a slow motion move, because it is a slow motion move LOL! And for now it is fine to do it as a lap turn, and then you will be able to switch to doing it more like a tandem turn where you don’t rotate your feet.

    On the threadle slice (:54) – nice job calling her on the previous jump, she just needed you to open up your shoulder and swing your arm back to bring her in to the threadle side.

    At 1:07 and 1:11 and 1:19 she took the jump not the tunnel. On those tunnel cues, the verbal was really good but the physical handling cues all indicated the jump. So she is not quite ready to go to the tunnel while you turn your shoulders & feet away. When you supported her with more connection and one extra step – she had a much easier time finding the tunnel. With continued practice and exposure to these sends, you will see she gets more and more confident with the verbal and won’t need the extra step or two of physical support.

    But even with the extra step, you still got to the threadle position on the mini sequence! YAY! She didn’t take the jump the first time at 1:27 – if keep connected to her eyes as she arrives on the correct side of the jump, that points your shoulders to the take off after the threadle. The rep at 1:32 was clearer terms of commitment to the tunnel and connection on the threadle after it – lovely!!!

    Great job! Let me know what you think!
    Tracy

    in reply to: Forrest and Handling 5: Backside v Tunnel RTC #47067
    Tracy Sklenar
    Keymaster

    Sounds good! Have fun!
    Tracy

    in reply to: Carrie and Roulez – working #47066
    Tracy Sklenar
    Keymaster

    I tried to share it but FB wouldn’t let me. I will look for some other videos to share – those threadle wraps are very popular and they all use varying degrees of decel. And it is easy to see with the Europeans handlers because they run with such gigantic strides LOL!

    in reply to: Amore Verbal only commitment #47065
    Tracy Sklenar
    Keymaster

    Excellent question!!!

    Basically, left or right names a turn on one obstacle so it can be used. However, the way I have taught, defined, and used the ‘switch’ cue is that it names a line and a scenario:
    The dog should turn away from me, we are both going to move in the entirely opposite direction (a u-turn) and the dog should pick up a line while I layer the obstacle. It is super specific and provides more info than the left or right directionals.

    Let me know if that makes sense or if I need more coffee 🙂

    T

    in reply to: Forrest and Handling 5: Backside v Tunnel RTC #47061
    Tracy Sklenar
    Keymaster

    Hi!

    >> I am still having trouble throwing the ball timely as I have to hide it until he is released else he would fixate on the ball and do NOTHING.>>

    The ball throw doesn’t need to be sooner, we don’t need a ton of precision rewarding on these particular handling games 🙂

    He did really well on the first video here! He found the jump instead of the tunnel when cued (yay!), and easily found the tunnel when cued (super!) . You can begin the Go Tunnel cue even sooner, because that cue can name the whole line – so you can so GO TUNNEL as he exits the wing, rather than needing to say over then say tunnel.

    I think his only quesiton was at :42 when he came to the correct side of the jump but didn’t take it. You were really far so he didn’t really know what line you wanted – you can totally move more now, to get close to the jump to show him the bar (the handling games involve running :))

    The 2nd video looks great too! You were very clear about the jump versus the tunnel, and you got closer to the jump after the tunnel so he took it easily. YAY!

    >> Looking forward to doing the Switch Away tomorrow and try the last handling challenges also…Friday it’s going to rain and Sat and Sun we are entered in our first AKC STD and JWW trials!>>

    Sounds like a good plan! Have fun at the trial and send updates 🙂

    Great job here!
    Tracy

    in reply to: Amy and Promise (sheltie) #47060
    Tracy Sklenar
    Keymaster

    Hi!

    >>Guess I had too little sleep and too much wine in Italy 😂😂😂.>>

    Sounds like a perfect vacation….

    The handling combos looked great – your connection and timing were lovely! She had no questions about the discriminations and her commitment looked great on all of them (my sequences and your sequences :))

    Her only question was on the bar on the jmp towards the tunnel towards the end of the video. At 1:55, you yelled tunnel and pointed your arm up, down came the bar. Aha! So that was a good thing to work on! She is going to need you to be able to yell over the bar and fling your arm around, so showing it to her with a tunnel cue after it is useful! She was figuring it out by the end of the session, but definitely keep showing it to her. It looks like you raised the bar late in the session – you can raise the bar early in the session, so she is fresh and fatigue is not a factor.

    Great job here! Let me know what you think!
    Tracy

    in reply to: Amy and Promise (sheltie) #47059
    Tracy Sklenar
    Keymaster

    Hello and welcome back! I hope you had the BEST TIME EVER!! Please post photos!

    This was a good session, looks of good info from her! In a nutshell… finding the outer obstacle was hard without a little more handling.

    >>Seemed like when she struggled finding tunnel it helped when I looked at tunnel(not her) and shouted directional at entrance.

    On both sides, the closer obstacle was easier for her – it was not so much a matter of you connecting too much, but the differences you were feeling were more about when you took an extra step or two on the line (which might have coincided with looking ahead), she went to the outer obstacle.

    When you looked at her a lot and didn’t take the extra step, you ended up turning your shoulders to the inner obstacle so that is what she took.

    Looking ahead helped her find the further obstacle because of the body motion. So the connection is less important than the motion,

    So for a plan of action – we don’t want to use toooo much handling help so she can respond to the verbals more. When you revisit this, start in position one and say the verbals then give a tiny step to the obstacle (and keep moving). Then we can fade out the extra step she needs as you gradually inch the start wing over to position 2.

    No need to get to position 3 yet – the main goal is to get her happy to go to the outer obstacle without you also needing to go to it 🙂

    And latent learning will kick in, making it all easier! So give her a day or two then try it again 🙂
    Nice work here, glad to have you back!
    Tracy

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