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This is a great update! The QQ thing in AKC really shifts focus to outcome goals, and that is no ta good mental space! Performance goals are what deliver the outcomes we want 🙂 I am SUPER glad you talked yourself into letting go of the first run and staying for the second run (7.5 hours between runs is BRUTAL, good for you for bringing a book!)
>> It is the DQs we need. But I did stay to work on me and my focus. I also looked at the course and it seemed to be made for us and Mookie loves his agility. >>
So based on your performance and the outcome… it was not the DQs that you needed, itwas the rehearsla of your plan and your focus and your mental game. And it helped!! Big congrats!!!!
>>While I was watching some of the other dogs run a friend came over and started talking and we discussed the plan and she said she “sucked”. Since I had turned on my positive smiley brain for this weekend my brain heard what she said and didn’t know what to do so I said nothing as if she never said it and the conservation started again briefly then quit. My brain said not to go there. I was amazed how I reacted then let it go.>>
Brilliant! I bet it helped her too that you didn’t engage with the negatives. Your brain was correct: don’t go there. It is always a happy moment when the Wise Advocate takes control of a potentially negative situation. Hooray!!!!
>>I am taking July off from trialing Mookie to focus more on Alonso’s agility and Flyball !!!!!!! I will be back at it in August. >>
Time off (and flyball :)) is very helpful!
>>I hope I can keep up the positive and let it go attitude as it really worked for me this weekend 🙂>>
I know you can! It takes some practice to do it all the time, so keep practicing even during your time off.
>> I am so glad I am in in your Mental management group. I really needed to practice and re-reading your handouts helped a lot.>>
I am glad you are here too! Thi smental management stuff is like changing your underwear: things are better when you do it daily. You will definitely see things get easier and easier with more practice!
Tracy
She did well here!
>>She was doing well getting the flip away with the Manners Minder. So at Amy’s, started with the MM. tried fading to a placed reward and she could NOT get it.>>
Two ideas for you on that:
Because the MM is so big and obvious, it is possible that iit became a target and then she was no longer giving you feedback about your handling. So, you can do some balance with the MM there. Yuo can have her go all the way around the circle to her right, pssing the MM but not turning to it and not getting the click. Then continue and on the 2nd loop, so the flip away. That will let you know if your handling is clear. Here is what I mean, but in a different context (it was a send, not a flip away, but you will see Nacho pass the MM on the first loop):
Second, keep the handling super clear. Looking at :46-:48you were VERY clear with your arms and movement there. :56-:58 were good too (I thought :46-:48 was your best cue, though). You were clear with your arms, set the line, flipped her away, and maintained the cue til you saw feet up in the correct direction.
Compare to 1:12, when you tried with the placed toy… you didn’t handle it the same and it basically looked like a FC. You didn’t get her focused on your hands then flip her – you were showing tall arms to the jump sooner an also running back towards the tunnel before she committed. So try the placed toy with the same cues you did at :46-:48 and I bet she gets it!
The second part of the session with the jump behind the tunnel looked great! Yay! She found that line beautifully and the sequence looked great!!
Great job! Let me know what you think!
TracyHi!
This last link worked 🙂 Yay! The sequences went really well! Her distance skills are really good, so it is mainly a matter of timing turning cues, and trusting her so you can get to the next position.
Seq 1:
Great distance in both directions!!You were in a great with getting to the wrap position on jump 5. So now you can time the wrap cues to be sooner:
At :06 and :23 – the wrap verbal and rotation was late, she was already taking off (same at 3:02 when you tried it again) . So as she is over the bar of the previous jump, you can be decelerating and starting the wrap verbals. It might feel early, but it will work nicely especially when she is jumping full height – on full height jumps, she will land closer to the turn jump and so will need to know what is next before she lands.She had a little question at :10 on jump 6, you were a little late turning your shoulders but you were great there at :27 and then again at the end.
Seq 2:
The distance looked great here too! Your wrap cues on 4 were earlier so she picked up a nice turn at :38 – she saw the info when she landed. Picture this on her full height jump: you can decel even sooner (as she is in the air over the jump) so you can rotate to the new line even sooner too!When you did that section again at 2:09, you were much later to start the cues (she was lifting off) so she didn’t turn til landing, then ended up back jumping. Compare it to the next rep where you were much earlier at 2:23 – really nice turns!!
One more thing to consider about timing, besides the timing for a full height bar: At a trial, she will be more aroused so will need the cues even sooner so her brain has time to process it. You might need to begin wrap cues at liftoff to the previous jump!
>>except for the wrap away from me. This is a skill that had been neglected and i couldnt get to where i wanted. >>
When it went wrong, just keep going, you don’t need to mark or fix it because she was reading you correctly – when you fixed it at :53 she got frustrated and gave a little bite at your hands. At 1:07, the cues did look like a backside push there. To get the switch away, think of it as a tandem turn where you would get her attention on your hands as you turn and face the jump, drawing her towards you then flipping her away as you move towards the jump. You can isolate that on the flat without distance than add back the distance after she reads it better.
>>Second big sticking point was the jimp otherside of tunnel tight to tunnel this didnt surprise me.>>
I thought she did well, unless there were more misses that were not on the video?
More thrown rewards will really help getting her to find it as you layer that tunnel. Definitely keep trying it with the outside arm to cue it, starting while she is approaching the previous jump: each time when you did that outside arm, it worked brilliantly especially when it was relatively early.And then remember you have no time to praise her on course, you just need to keep cuing her:
At 2:37 you praised and that made the tunnel cue late. At 2:51 you didn’t praise, so the tunnel cue was on time and she was great!
And big wow, that last sequence looked great, especially good connection and verbals! Super independent distance!!!
So if you get a chance to try this again, add taller bars so you can get the timing of the turns while she is working at a distance with a lot of speed. That is kind of the main thing that is hard at trials! I know I often recommend lower bars but since this went really well, working it at full height to get the timing might be really helpful 🙂
Great job! Let me know what you think!
TracyGood morning!
>.We also ran into some challenges, so I figured I should go ahead and get some feedback before continuing on anyway.>>
Great! It is always better to submit as you get video, as that can help the next sequences too!
>> Somehow we got it on the first try once we put it all together, but then we struggled repeating it.>>
It is 1000% fine to get it on the first try, give yourself a high five, and NOT repeat it. Behavior shifts when we try to repeat things (human and canine) and since getting it right the first time is the goal, you can just move on rather than try it again. Most of the demos on the RYG challenges in this package were the first rep, so there are good parts and also imperfections. But because it the run went pretty well, I repeat it and moved on. That way, the dog doesn’t start to ask questions (“why are we doing this again?”) and also I don’t start over-thinking – both of those things always lead to messing up LOL!
Lokoing at the video:
She had a little trouble finding the first jump after the tunnel. You can throw the lotus ball sooner (for looking at the jump and not just jumping it) or place it out on the line like you did later on in the session. But more importantly:
You can also run more, like you did from 1:20-1:23 to get her layering the line back to the tunnel. It is possible the lack of motion was confusing to her when she exited the tunnel and she thought your decel was a cue to come towards you and not stay on the big line.Also let her success tell you if you need to change plans or not. You had planned to reward 4 at :36, but she didn’t take 3 – so an in-the-moment adjustment would be to throw the reward for 3 again.
When you tried to repeat the sequence, your text in the video mentioned that the first rep of it might have just been lucky – clean runs are not lucky, you totally got it done beautifully! So try not to test the waters of that or let your inner voice talk you into it LOL! – that is where over-thinking and errors come in. The turn away was not as clearly handled and you decelerated on the layered line towards the tunnel (which lends support to the theory that she needs motion from you to sray on the line.)
So keeping in mind that practice makes plasticity – if you get it right, you don’t need to repeat it because your brain just got practice creating the neural pathways we want – trying it again before the brain is ready can interrupt that process when you don’t get it the same way.
>> I did use her Lotus Ball, though. I had it more in the middle of her path instead of tucked into the wing.
Tucking it in behind the wing was for countermotion and sending (the lotus or MM would be right on the line the dog would be on after the send), so the placement on a layered line would be right on the path, just like you did here. Yay! Then you would keep fading it further and further down the line til it was gone eventually. It worked really well!
When you placed the toy on the line, you also moved more and both of those really helped! And then on the very last rep, you did put it together again with the clean handling. Super!!!!
>>Is the method I used ok to keep using, or do I need to make changes? I also thought about moving the barrier closer, but since the Lotus ball, worked, I didn’t do that yet. Which is your preference for helping the dog?>>
Yes, placing the lotus on the line totally helped (nice get it markers there too!) and also moving the barrier closer can help but I think the main thing is also going to be supporting the layered line with you running. When you moved a lot? She found it really well in both directions! When you were decelerated? She was confused (decel is a turn cue, so I can see her point here…) .
So for the next session, you can go with the placed toy and more motion. And if that doesn’t help, you can move the barrier in closer.
Great job here! Let me know what you think!
TracyHi!
>>She got cookies when I screwed up the first rep.>>
Yes, I saw that… but be careful of the markers and the change in energy. Dogs read all of that, especially when a toy is in play. I constantly remind myself that my young dogs are not mind-readers LOL so if they do something unexpected, I should just reward them as if it was TOTALLY correct and then figure out what I messed up after the reward 🙂 That is how they learn to be minder-readers later on in their careers 🙂
Keep me posted about how the throwbacks go!
TracyGood morning!
>>I know exactly what you’re saying here- I never use the word almost but it has no baring. I could say taco but my actions are the key so that I can very much adjust!!!>>
Exactly! It is not just the word ‘almost’ or ‘nice try’ or ‘oopsie’ or whatever we say in those moments… it is the change in energy and other physical cues. Plus those words are not the “YES GREAT JOB” words. When she is more resilient and more adult, it won’t be an issue. But that is all still developing so we have to be very careful.
>> I left in prob more than I should have the in between stuff but that’s more important to me right now!!>>
I agree – the in between stuff is the key!!
Nice transition out of the line up at the beginning!
Note the focus with no interest in her leash with the reps sending her behind the tunnel – she was spicy and focused and a good girl!
Then you revealed the tunnel – very nice transition out of the offered line up and leash coming off there too!
>>The rep she was wrong my body was all boo boo! But, I caught myself before she came out of the tunnel! I decided to avoid the quiet cues or words I May accidentally use and simply go to clear things I would say to get a reward- so “get it >>
Good catch! Yes- totally body language of reaction to the handling error but she didn’t see it and you adjusted quickly with your get it. So she stayed happy and not frustrated, and then the next reps were great! HOORAY! Loved it! This resilient, spicy, focused Chata is exactly what we want – well done to you for setting her up for success!
>>Also, I had her go for a run after our first session and that seemed to really help!
Some breeds just need to run run run run sometimes, and I think Viszlas are one of those breeds.
>> I did move onto the tunnel being open again bc I had done quite a few with it down and when she shot past me on the last rep with such confidence I felt she was ready.>>
I agree, she was ready. For the handler/trainer prep : when you go to the next step, you should also prepare yourself for what to do if it does not go as planned. I am sure you had the plan of “happy words and throw reward” if she got the jump – but make sure you also ask yourself to plan for if she goes to the wrong place – the plan for that can also be “happy words and throw reward” LOL! Or you can keep going and keep her on a line like you meant for it to happen like that, then try the send in flow or throw the reward in flow.
Great job!! Let me know what you think!
TracyGood morning!
>. I didn’t know on that first package we could go to the take off side to set up the rear cross better.>>
You can stay on the takeoff side while still layering, and the dogs can read the rear cross. I think we will do more of that in the nxt games package, everyone is having trouble with it – hard skill!!!
Onwards to the video – lots of good work going on here! The yare very tricky -lots of lines to sort out and figuring out where the layering can go 🙂
As you are playing with the different handling and teaching her the layerning – run her at 16″. Make it fast and fun and easier on her body. I know she measures into the 24″ class and all… but she hits a lot of bars in training (and she hits them hard) as you are sorting out the hard handling stuff. And that has got to be ouchy on her toes!! Don’t let pressure (from yourself or from peers) push you into jumping her at 24 all the time.
For example, right at the beginning, you had a bar at :02 – you looked ahead and she had to process that and figure out where go, and she hit the bar hard with her back toes. So make it easier for her with the lower bar.
>>I also couldn’t figure out the first sequence how to get the backside of 5.
You got to the tunnel exit realy well at :04! You were almost perfect, just needed to be one step sooner to get 5 without any potential collisions 🙂 You can start your verbals before she goes in the tunnel (a ‘get out’ would be best there because it is what she needs to do when she exits the tunnel) as well as show her the outside arm to cue the shift away from you. Also, you can get there even sooner by using more lateral distance to send to 3 so you can get to the tunnel exit even sooner, and start the backside push cues before she even enters.
The rest of that pop out went really well!
2nd pop out on the video: This one is all about position of front crosses 🙂 You had good timing on the FCs at :20 and :33. Positionally, you were all the way across the bar so she jumping on a big slice to your position so you had to pushher back to the tunnel. To get a better line, you can be closer to the line you want her to take (very clsoe to the first wing of the jump and on the way to the unnel entry) – she doesn’t need the extra support of you going across the bar, so you can send and trust her commitment 🙂 .
You can also send without going across the bar at :41 when crossing to the other side of the tunnel. Going across the bar set up a wide line here and she hit her feet on the bar trying to adjust in the air (she is less likely to smack her feet on the bar trying to adjust with the lower bar).
And I think you can trust her more on the FC on the backside at :46 – you stepped across the bar so she sliced and adjusted after landing. So, the theme here is: trust your girl! Send her to the jump, keep the good timing of the FC but run to the next obstacle without over-supporting the line by stepping across the bar.
On the next pop out – at :55, try it with tunnel layering 🙂 A big trend lately is sending the do to do things on the other side of the tunnel, as you saw a bit of in the RYG sequence 2. That will make that line much easier (and you can totally break it down and reward her for going to find the jump while you are on the other side of the tunnel.
You are doing a good job with the tricky lines! She had a little question at 1:13 and went past the jump – that was because you started looking forward to the jumpand not back t her, which turned your body line past it (so she was correct to not flick away to it).
>>. I couldn’t figure out that last one at all lol. Were we supposed to end to that one backside behind the tunnel and layer to 7?>>
Yes, on the last one on the video – send to he backside and layer the tunnel to get to the 7 jump. What was making it hard was that you were going behind the tunnel by a step or two to get the 6 backside, then trying to go back around the tunnel to layer. Your motion back around the tunnel pulled her off the line to 7. Sticking right at the #5 jump and sending to 6 without going past the tunnel will let you layer the tunnel and set the line to 7 really nicely.
Great job here! Let me know what you think!
TracyWelcome back!
It looked like an AMAZING trip, thank you for sharing the photos!!!! And yes, nothing better to shake of jet lag than sprinting in the heat LOL!!!!>>I’m not really sure what I should be saying for this jump after the tunnel.>>
Ideally you would be saying “GO!”before she enters the tunnel to get her to exit straight which helps her see the jump. Now what to say next depends on what helps her more: Some days prefer more go go go, and some dogs prefer a “jump” verbal, and some dogs prefer a GO JUMP 🙂 You used a get out a couple of times and I don’t think she needed that (dropped the bar on it) because it is not a lead change away. You can also break down the skill but putting the jump closer to the tunnel and unavoidably on her line so it is easy to find 🙂 You can also move your barrier in closer so the layering challenge has less distance to begin with, then eventually we can move it back out.
It was smart that you all also did the mirror image course!!! Nice!
Looking at the video – getting the layering started, she was surprised on the first rep but made a great decision and the reward made an impact. Placing the reward word once then did I see correctly that she ran past the jump to get it at :22 ? Darn smart dogs LOL!! So keep throwing it rather than placing it, so she has to seek out the jump to get it, that will probably be more effective.
Wrapping towards you at 4 looked great, she did the get out NICELY and looked great on the layering. She had a bar down at :41 but that was just you working out the timing of the wrap and the sending. I was VERY happy with her jumping the 5 jump after the get out (at :42 for example) – she had to jump it on a severe slice at a distance and she was GREAT! Your work is paying off!
>>but always been a slightly harder skill for her and I. It also a skill we don’t use to often so we are a little rusty. I think she was really getting it at the end.>>
It is such a hard skill! And so useful, which is why we have started emphasizing it.
Showing the switch from closer with the layering was smart to get her started on it. When you do the switch, from wherever you are: be sure to point your feet to the bar – when she had the big question at 1:20, your feet were pointing to the backside line. So it might end up almost being like a pull then flip away, so your feet are showing the bar the whole time.
She got it nicely at 1:34 and 1:47 when you pointed your feet to the bar and had super nice big obvious arm cues!!
She was also good at 1:59 – you were probably needing more decel and verbals there. You were moving fast into the 4 jump and got quieter there 🙂
2:10 was an example of where she did not need the get out (bar down) so let me know how she does with the Jump and go cues to help find the jump.
She was totally getting the switch away by the end! At 2:13, you can try to stop your motion sooner and turn feet to the center of the bar and see if she can do it without you pushing into the jump (the motion and feet direction there looks a little like a potential backside cue, and she barked at you in same spot on the last rep LOL! )
Great job here! Let me know what you think!
TracyGood morning! She looked super confident here!!! YAY!
Looks like you added some tip, she was a good girl! Remember to be super super super gradual with adding the tip so that she barely notices and continues to drive to the top of the board.I think that this point, you can start naming the obstacle instead of saying “go” because “go” is an entirely different behavior 🙂 The teeter is now moving a bit so it is getting more teeter-ish and can be named. (You can also use an interim cue like a noise if you don’t want to say your teeter word yet, but don’t use go because go is all extension and the teeter is all weight shift :))
Are you also playing the other games from River’s class? She seems ready for those too – we hit on those a little here, but you can feel free to ask questions or post clips from that progression if you want.
Great job!!
TracyGood morning!
Happy birthday, Saphira!!! 2 years old – such a great age!!!
>>When roles switch I think Saphira will quit going in her crate. We’ll see. Either way I need to just do something and work through it>>
It sounds like they are associating those things (going in the crate, going in the van) when the other dog does not also get crated as predicting the frustration of not also getting to train. So you can prevent that association and the frustration/arousal that comes with it by rotating little crating moments here and there throughout the day or week, with great things happening in the crate (chews, treats, etc) but the other dog does NOT always go out and train. That can help reduce the issues of crating one while the other trains.
>Karl can go upstairs and put his headphones on.
Sorry Karl! LOL!!!!
>>so she can bring it to my and punch me if she wants.
The things we do for our dogs LOL!!!! And the bruises we get LOL!!!!
It sounds like she has a nice variety of toys and treats that she likes and you can use! And definitely keep getting her arousal up with toys before training, even at home – the science supports this SO MUCH it is mind-blowing and it will set her up for a lot of success in the future.
>>Seems to be a great reward for do the hard thing then open up and run through a tunnel.
Yes! Stopping for toys or treats is not always a reward – sometimes letting the dog rip through a tunnel is perfect in the moment!
Looking at the first video with the crosses in front of the tunnel: you did a great job of breaking things down and building them back together to create a lot of success! Yay!!!
Nice job breaking down the blinds to the tunnel – on the 2nd rep, the bar came down because as you were leading out, you were heading towards the tunnel entry in front of her and he was surprised that you did the blind instead of going straight. That was not an issue when you did the full sequence, your line was really strong on those (see below)
Nice sending to the middle jump! And great job breaking that out to be sure she could do it 🙂
On the full sequence: the FC was lovely! Too early at 1:11 then perfect again. Since we are talking about timing a lot: when she lands from the middle jump, you should keep moving to your FC or BC position but watch her head: she needs to look at the next jump before you can start the FC or BC. Looking at the next jump is her cue to you to begin the cross 🙂
LOVED the blind at the end! That worked GREAT!!!
The rear crosses are going well! The key is to show motion pressure to the center of the bar as the main part of the cue. After all of the pinwheel work she was a little surprised but she got it correctly each time on the left turns! That means you were showing the rear cross line really well 🙂
At :21ish it looked like she got a bug in her mouth or something LOL!
At :50 you did not show the RC line (it was more of a pull to the wrap wing then a late pressure to the RC) so she was convinced that you wanted a left turn, then you cue in and pushed her off the jump.
When that happens, just keep going, do not fix – it is handler error so it is fine to carry on. Stopping to fix can be deflating to the dog and also doesn’t fix the question of whatever happened to cause her question.
On the next reps, you ran the RC line a lot better s she got it 🙂
The last sequences where you balanced the regular pinwheels and speed circles with the rear crosses looked great! This is challenging to the handler 🙂 because you had to show the very clear differences or the young dogs can’t get it right. And you nailed it: super clear info. YAY!!!!!!
>> Should I be using a verbal on the turn? Her wrap cue?>>
Yes, you can use the verbal that matches the turn. In this case, it is a wrap verbal.
One thing to do with these setups: since we were talking about getting more speed and excitement, and since you have the room: stretch these sequences out so you can get more run run run running in 🙂 Can you set them to have 25 feet or more between jumps? Both of you will be hustling 🙂 You’ll end up doing fewer reps because there will be more exertion but that is fine! The bigger distances should help her love to open up and fly 🙂
Great job here!
TracyYes! Definitely more jump tunnel combos. When do you need to set the courses for July? I can send you the setups early 🙂 so Mr. Golly G can have the full space for training 🙂 He is looked great!
TracyGood morning!
The lazy game with the toy looked great – my favorite thing about it was that you were being properly lazy 🙂 and giving the verbals… and she was responding to the verbals without you actually needing to turn! Super! For example, your ‘right’ verbal was getting her turned as you strolled through and didn’t help her do the turn. That is GREAT NEWS for her being able to respond to verbals independently of handling!!
Lazy Game parts 2 & 3
Very nice connection on the first set up reps where you were timing the cues and doing the one step sending to the middle jump. Nailed it! After that you had the lazy game with the tunnel and she did well too – she needed a bit more of a cue to get the tunnel but that is fine, because that is an easy cue to give on course.
Keep connecting like you did here – it was really lovely – you were able to maintain that connection as you started running faster, and that meant your were nailing your timing of the cues as well. Connection makes timing a LOT easier. Your timing was basically as she was lifting off for the previous jump, which is really good for now. My guess is that is where her “adult” timing will end up: at liftoff for the previous jump, because waiting for landing will be too late when she is jumping full height bars.
Speaking of bars: since this went really well, you can give her more of a bar to jump: These looked to be 8 inches? If so, you can go to 10 then 12 in the next session (even if it is a different sequence).
3rd video with wraps:
Great job with your connection, verbals, and timing of the wrap rotation. She is doing brilliantly with moving from extension to collection to extension – good girlie!!!!!
You started to add more of your running in the 2nd rep and 3rd rep, which is great because that way we can put in the transitions to give her the info even sooner. Based on how well she did here, you can run more on the 1-2-3-4 line (I think she is ready for you to really run as long as you stay connected). Then, as she is lifting off for 4 (the middle jump), you can start decelerating and giving the wrap verbal, so she can land with the info about the collection. That will allow you to rotate sooner and she will collect beautifully.
Looking at the last 2 reps, with the wrap at 1:01 versus the wrap at 1:17 –
On the rep starting at about :59, you were moving a little more slowly so as she was jumping 4, you accelerated into the wrap – that cued her to take off in extension for the 5 jump, so the wrap cues are as she was lifting off nd most of her turn as made after landing of 5.
Now compare to the rep that started at 1:14 – when she committed to 3, you accelerated then as she was over 4 at 1:17, you decelerated and began the wrap cues – she collected before takeoff and had a great turn! Yay!
So keep working that timing of the transition. Bear in mind that you do not need to be right at the wing, so if she gets ahead of you – the timing remains the same and you can do the wrap cues from any position!
Great job here! Let me know what you think!
TracyHi!
Hope you had a great weekend!
Yes, you forgot you were supposed to move on the first rep, I was typing ‘you can move more” when you said that on the video LOL!!! The rest looked really strong!!
When you were moving, it was just about perfect! The only thing to add now is NOT flip him away or step to the threadle entry of the tunnel, let him find it himself when you are moving forward.
You will basically keep moving forward slowly, saying the verbal and doing the arm cue – then wait for him to turn his head to the tunnel. You can mark that and then move to the tunnel and then reward.
Great job here! Let me know how he does when you are helping less and letting him find it more independently!
Tracy
Hi!
>>I looked through the max pup stuff and couldn’t find a throw back video. Is there one somewhere?
It is in all the backwards sending games 🙂 So you can see it in the prop games and barrel games in MaxPup 1 that are sideways and backwards sending. And in the proofing games, we do a throwback on the backside slice proofing game – it is isolated but definitely a throwback.
>> I know you aren’t home and you may not know exactly where everything is!>>
I am rarely home at this time of year LOL!!!
>>Yes, Sprite was a good girl with the out jump. I felt like I lead out too far and was running out of room.>>
Ah yes – that is a legit point. Part of t he layering strategy is just how close to the start of the layer you need to be, to get the line without running out of room and ending up with no place to move to. Stay tuned for the live class, there is stuff that covers this in there.
>>We tried one jump throw back and RC wrap. Left the bar at 16. I’m thinking a lot with the throw back. Is this even correct?
I am a little under-caffeinated and I thought you were doing all throw backs and wondering why you were cuing rear crosses at the beginning LOL!!!! That means the rear cross/tandem turns looked great 🙂
On the very first rep – you were not clear, it totally looked like a throw back to the left wrap wing so she was correct. Be sure to mark all “errors” in anything handling as correct for her, because it is all human error for all of us 🙂
The next several reps were great tandems, and you got earlier and earlier. If you want them tighter, add some decel and it will be perfect!
The throw backs looked great – it is hard to do on one jump but you nailed it! Great job with the mechanics and the shifting connection. Sprite had no questions, which is especially good because she had just done all those rear crosses and if we mess up a throw back, the dogs read it as a rear cross 🙂
>I’d need to get a lot better before using it on a course. I recall the one jump standing still and send while facing the dog and sending back. I just don’t recall having a drill where we did this skill>
I believe the moving throw backs were in MaxPup 3:
Great job here!! Let me know what you think!
TracyHi!
Hope you had a great weekend 🙂 The distance seminar sounds fun! Now we add in the layering and all is good!The visual of the obstacle being layered is hard and small dogs have to take a lot more strides to stay out on the line. So it is more about the training and not as much about handling.
Rosie Video 1:
Two things that will really help Rosie tp get the distance without the spins or questions:Handling the layering with motion:
By this – don’t treat it like a send because that stops your motion and she was tending not to go the first time on the send – she was going when she figured out the sequence 🙂 Layering is strongest when we can stay on a parallel line and keep running fast! So, to help her get that concept, set up the visual obstruction a little closer to the layering jump so you can run a parallel line to it rather than stop and send.Rewarding as far away from you as possible: rather than reward her near you for finishing the sequence, try to always throw a reward to the landing side of the layering jump. This can be from a lotus ball since she is a foodie 🙂 And the timing of the throw is when she looks at the jump! You don’t need to wait for her to take the jump, you can mark and throw as soon as she even looks at it 🙂 That will really begin to get her looking away from you.
And if she really has a tough time, you can place the toy out on the line before you start the sequence – so she can do jump, tunnel – then the lotus ball or a manners minder can be in front of the #3 jump 🙂 Then move the reward to the landing side and further and further away over time.
When she gets the idea that she can go to that jump independently – smooth sailing from there!!
On the second video – one other thing that I see here is that your opposite arm helps her stay out on the layering line! You had more motion here so she was a better staying on the line, plus she already saw the sequence 🙂
The ‘turn’ cue on jump 4 to turn away looked great!
Note the reward placement – it was all from your hand, right near you. If we can shift the placement to be out on the line, you will see a huge shift in her focus on the line. The reward placement was why she kept having trouble finding the jump, even though she ran the line a bunch of times.
At 1:44, you decelerated at jump 4 so she thought you wanted the turn, good girl.
She was finding the other lines nicely! The spins were her not being sure if she should go that far away – the sends we good, but it delays you from mooing up the line (plus it is hard to send then there is a dog walk there :))
She found the tunnel at a distance really well each and every time, so this is mainly about the jump on the line – get more parallel line motion and throw or place the reward out there, and it will be much easier 🙂
Looking at Lily’s videos – Yes, she wants to be close to you 🙂 I think she homework for her is the same was with Rosie:
Keeping the barrier in as close as needed so you can stay in motion on a parallel line (might be 2 feet away from the jump)And throwing the reward on the line.
Both of these will help you keep moving and get more consistent layering: if you sent just at the right motion and with the right timing, she would get it. But she would often ask questions about the barrier or spin.
So with that in mind, the reward being placed in advance might be VERY helpful for her. It can be the Manners Minder placed right in front of the jump so she can drive to it as she exits the tunnel and you move up the line on a parallel line. You can click the MM as soon as she looks forward after the tunnel (but try to resist temptation to do a big send arm & leg – keep moving :))
On the 2nd video:
I love that you moved the barrier in closer so she could find the line and you could keep moving – that was PERFECT and really helpful for her. And you can more the #4 jump in loser too, so it is easier for her to find the jump #5 while you keep moving through the layering.So definitely keep the barrier in close, just a few feet from the jump, and keep moving like you did at about :36-:39. That was GREAT! You had cones there and you ran between the cones and the barrier – and she nailed it. YAY! So more of that for sure! (And throw or place all rewards to the line, no more rewards from hand when layering :))
She did far better with the layering when you stayed in motion. She did get it with the send, but keeping you in motion will make it a lot easier to get ahead and set up the turn on jump 4 🙂
Great job here! Let me know how it goes with the parallel motion and rewards on the line!
Tracy
