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Tracy Sklenar
KeymasterHi – These are the Zig zags grid- he is doing well with this!
The angles looked pretty much like a straight line to him here – he had no trouble reading it – so you can totally begin to flatten out the jumps to add a little more challenge. And you can use the moving target reward that we did in MaxPup 2, that will help get more power and keep his head down too.T
Tracy Sklenar
KeymasterHi!
He is doing well committing to the wings so now you can definitely run faster -you were walking on much of this, so he sees you decelerated and is not sure if you want him to turn or run. He slows down to wait for more info and we want him to be super confident and run.On the tunnel threadles – the reps where you didn’t really rotate towards him were clearer, because your line of motion really helped set the line to the correct end of the tunnel. Yay!
At :24 and 1;23, for example, you turned towards him a lot then turned back to the tunnel, which cued him to go into the wrong end because the extra rotation looked like a forward cue to the tunnel. At 1:35, he slowed down to wait for more info. Good job rewarding him, he was really working to read the cues.
Compare those to 1:45 which was more direct of a line to the tunnel entry you wanted, and he was so much smoother getting into the tunnel 🙂
TracyTracy Sklenar
KeymasterHi!
These tunnel threadles are going well! You can move more directly to the tunnel entry you want, so he finds it on his own without you needing to do any pull & send with the threadle arm – that independence will be helpful for when he is ahead of you on course.Between the wings, you can add more motion and connection – when you were stationary and pointing at the wings instead of connecting with him, he slowed down or didn’t go to the wing.
More motion and definitely more question will answer those questions for him, and you will see a lot more running 🙂Tracy
Tracy Sklenar
KeymasterGood morning!
This is the wrap to tunnel threadle video – nice use of your verbals!When he was going into the wrong end of the tunnel at the beginning, he needed to see more motion to the correct end – that us what you did at :55 and it was great! Try not to rotate your feet towards him – when you changed sides you were rotating towards him – do more of what you did at :55 when you completed the FC and then moved directly to the tunnel entry you wanted. That was super smooth and was helping him find the correct entry really nicely!
Tracy
Tracy Sklenar
KeymasterGood idea! I will ask everyone and see what they can do.
TracyTracy Sklenar
KeymasterHi! These are great!
I love those high hand touches – very active tricks are great! You can have him put his feet up on you tp get the cookie too, so he gets it very actively as well.
And leg weaves are terrific, for focus and as a great physical warm up.
You can play both of these games with ‘remote reinforcement’ (no cookies in your hand, they are outside the ring on a chair of something) to see if he can do these tricks on the way to the start line as a way to keep him pumped up!
Fingers crossed for cool weather ahead – this is the HOTTEST summer!!!!
Enjoy the rest of the weekend!
Tracy
Tracy Sklenar
KeymasterHi! Very nice session here!
She figures things out very quickly and that is great! So when she gets something wrong on the first rep, that means the info can be clearer for her (because she will figure out what you want and not give clear feedback on other reps LOL!!)The most important thing – look at her more and step to “take off” (front of the barrel) while you maintain connection .That means your position is slightly rotated towards her, rather than fully facing the barrel. You were facing forward on the first couple of reps so she came to you, looking for more connection.
When you switched sides: LOVED your connection at 1:24 – but you did not step with the dog side leg so she read it (correctly) as a threadley move 🙂 The next rep had the dog side leg involved AND the great connection… and she nailed it! Really nice!!
>>I have to remember to reward the stay more!>>
She was a really good girl with the stays! The one she broke did look like you were releasing so yes, be careful to reward a lot on this one because it is very easy to pair the release with motion.
On the next session – you can lead out more and be parallel to the barrel, rather than parallel to her like you were her. That will add even more challenge: distance challenge for her, connection and step-to-takeoff challenge for you.
Great job!Tracy
Tracy Sklenar
KeymasterHi!
Yes, these countermotion things are complex for sure!
You both did really well – you showed her a super clear connection shift from her eyes to the ‘landing’ spot, and you really focused on placement of reward – super!!
She was really strong with her commitment. And since she was so strong, I qm glad you went to the next step!Adding the motion was harder, but only because you did not do the connection shift to the landing spot – you were looking at her the whole time (she is really cute, so it is understandable 🙂 )
So when she came around and did not go over the bar (1:25, 1:59,
Blooper at 1:25, 1:59, 2:17, 2:30 – you released her but you were looking at her, so she came to the other side of you (which is where you shoulders point when you look at her, rather than at landing).
You can reward that – bloopers are handling errors, so if you get a blooper you can still give her the toy. And almost 100% of the time, errors on countermotion commitment are because we needed more connection shift to the landing spot.
On the reps where she did come over the bump – 1:53 and 2:06 and the last 2 reps, for example – it was because you were standing still longer, so you were on the landing side.
So with the countermotion, definitely remember to shift connection to the landing spot as you move forward and I think she will get it much more easily.
Nice work here!
Tracy
Tracy Sklenar
KeymasterGood morning!
Sorry for the delay, the cell service here is really bad and so there is very little internet access 🙁Nice work on both of these courses!
One overall thing to focus on now is earlier timing – the cues should start no later than exit of the previous obstacle, and on smaller spacing like this – as she is in the air over the previous jump. For the most part, you were starting the cues after the takeoff decision had been made for the turn jump, so she was getting the lines but the turns were happening after landing.Here are specifics:
The BC 2-3 works but you would need to start it as she is lifting off for 1, then as you finish it immediately decel and cue the turn for 3 to get her turned for 4, all before she makes a takeoff decision about 3.
At :09 on the first video and :11 on the 2nd video she was surprised at where 4 was and landed long over 3, because the turn cues came after she had already taken off for 3, so she adjusted after landing.
The switch to the tunnel looked good! She needs a little more support as you move laterally away from the weaves – that can be more weave cues (don’t be too quiet!) and an arm up – and definitely more rewards thrown after she exits 🙂
On the line after the weave:
The verbal ‘Here’ and shoulder turn at :34 on first video and :35 on and video to get her to turn at 10 happened after she already took off for 10, which then made the switch at 11 late – she read them both but she is making the turn on the ground after landing (you can see it most clearly on the 1st run, after the switch on 11).LOVE the blinds 13-14-15-16 on both runs, you were more aggressive on those and timing was better – you were a lot earlier, so she was adjusting before takeoff and going really fast 🙂 YAY!!!!
After the last tunnel, the wrap at :49 (it is :49 on both runs :)) started as she was lifting for the wrap jump, so she was super wide and adjusted after landing. Ideally, the decel and the verbal would start as she is exiting the weaves. I think what was happening was that you were looking a little forward and didn’t start the cues til you could see her in your peripheral vision – and at that point, her takeoff decision was made to go straight, because of your forward motion.
So, be sure to look back at the tunnel to see her exit, and a soon as she exits, start the wrap cues.
In your walk throughs, if you really focus on the earlier timing, you’ll see that the runs are as smooth and fast as the 12-13-14-15-16 section was here!
Nice work :)
TracyTracy Sklenar
KeymasterHi! Hmmmm, the tip assist should keep your teeter in whatever position you set it… can you send me a photo of what the setup looks like? I don’t use a tip assist in the class – I use a Teach It as well as some homemade hacks lol
Tracy
Tracy Sklenar
KeymasterHi!
Sorry for the delay – it took me almost 24 hours to convince the internet to play the video! Eek!>>I thought we could get right through this module but I was completely wrong LOL.>>
Ha! Ain’t that the TRUTH! It definitely falls into the category of “harder than it looks” 🙂
Sending to the backside tunnel entry – that is really hard because it is actually a really collected turn. Starting closer definitely helped, great job rewarding her!
When you switched sides later in the video, it was like a whole new game 🙂 You can break down that tunnel entry again so she doesn’t get frustrated. If she misses once… just break it down for the next rep so there is no frustrated circling behavior. And on the next session, you can start with a reminder (nice and close to the entry) to refresh the skill.
On the tunnel exit – the more connection you have to her eyes when she exits, the better she understands the line make a connection to her eyes. When you were pointing forward on the first send to the wing, she was not sure where to be and really slowed down.
Then you started adding more and more connection and you had lots of gorgeous commitment and turns!!
I think you will get the best commitment (for now) if you keep moving tll she exits the tunnel and *then* do the decel & send with the dog side arm and leg. You were starting the send before she exited, and you can see steam coming out of her ears as she was trying to figure it out 🙂
And remember to use your dog side leg to send her – when she was on your right, you were perfect!
When she was on your left, you were not using your left leg, you were kind of rotated and using your right leg. She still committed (good girlie!) but she was not quite as sure of it as she was on the other side. So definitely remind your left leg to step forward to the wing.
You used your right leg on the last couple of reps on the other side and she was fast and accurate and awesome!
Like with the send to the wing, the exit of the wing to the tunnel worked better when you had a lot of connection. At
1:31 you were disconnected as you were running (looking forward) so she was not sure if it as come to you, or go into the tunnel.
Compare to the connection at 1:50 – gorgeous! That connection is a big deal for her, so really exaggerate it for now and I think things will be much smoother.So I think the 2 main things to remember are:
– show her that difficult backside tunnel entry from up close to jump start it
– connect to her eyes strongly at all times, so she has the full picture of where to be.Great job!
TracyTracy Sklenar
KeymasterHi! Sorry for the delay – I am at a UKI Festival and the cell service is horrible… which also means no internet. I am not sure when this will actually post!
>>Temperature here is over 80 with hot direct sun, so we didn’t spend THAT much time outside. Maybe that’s why my walks were not sufficient.
>> Totally relatable – we have a “feels like” of 99 right now…. Gross! I am at a trial that is outdoors and undercover. My morning runs were decent in terms of temps, but since I (foolishly) entered 4 dogs, you better believe I was careful in the walk though and did a whole lot without actually running.
So a whole lot of walk through can be done without a lot of running – but when it is cooler, definitely work on running at the actual pace so solidify the feel of it all.
>>Also, I am not taking as much advantage of my verbals as I could and I am not “moving in the new direction” with crispness and speed.>>
YES! This is key – timing and delivery of verbals, along with connections needed. The timing will help you move to the next line too – you can spend a lot of time in the walk through working out the timing, really emphasizing what to do when he exits a tunnel, or as he is over the jump before a turn, for example.
>> As I was walking the course, I realized that I only walked 3 minutes (instead of 8). So that is nice; of course, that does mean I make mistakes sometimes.>>
Being able to do it all in 3 minutes is great, especially when you are running more than one dog (Casper is on his way!) But yes, be sure that you don’t miss anything – if I feel like my walk through is done, I will stand and visualize the course and make sure I have it, before going to get the dog.
Looking at course 1:
Opening plan – the lead out plan is a good one (he will also easily find the 4-5-6 line with less of a lead out, from a rear too, based on the strength of his weaving). But the big lead out takes out all options after 1 except 2, based on your position.
Nice layering options – you can layer the tunnel AND teeter, but you probably don’t need to. Layering the tunnel will get you to 9-10-11 easily. To get the cross on landing to 10 – you walked a FC but a BC might be more efficient to keep you moving forward to set the line t 12 and the DW.
Nice distance choices at the end!! Those are strong skills for him for sure!
Run 1:
You did a FC 3-4, it looked really good! I originally thought the BC would be better but on the 2nd time through there with the BC, I didn’t like it as much – it as a little later and the turn was a little more surprising to him.
>>I did a FC after #3 on the first run and a BC on the second. Don’t think it made much difference. I suppose I should have done the BC sooner and further back, then I could move in the new direction sooner.>>
The FC was a stronger option here based on the timing and the strength of the rotation – yes, if you start the BC sooner I bet it will it will be really nice too. On this course, the FC was great because the course was rolling him back to you anyway – if there was some crazy thing that required you to be way ahead, then the blind will get you there better than the FC.
Nice tunnel layer parallel to the frame!! That was easy for him.
>>tried a couple of times to see how to incorporate #11 and then forgot it entirely during the first run. The “HEY! Walk it” was in response to his longing look at his toy. He was also very, very wide at 18.>>
Yes – the forgotten 11 then a big send to 12 which might be why he went so wide (‘we’re done! Woohoo!’)
The 2nd time through with 11 set the line a lot better – I think the BC on the landing of 10 is going to be a very effective option for staying ahead though.That wideness at 12 threw off the rest of the line to the ending on that first run, great job holding on to it and getting it done!
I was about to suggest that you try 16-17 with him on your right then do the threadle wrap on 18 – and that is what you did after the re-walk. It worked like a charm and is a great place to put that threadle wrap move. Plus, getting the line 11-12 set up your dog walk cues to be more in flow, so the entire ending looked much smoother.
Walk 2 –
You were playing with various options about where to be on the tunnel-teeter section – I think the BC between the tunnel and teeter will give great flow and will be easy to do.The choices on the middle section looked good- hard to tell what you were doing with the timing, so that is something to rehearse more of in the walk through.
On the jump before the weaves – I definitely suggest turning to his left (to the outside) – that is the line he will want to be on, plus you can all your weaves cue and then leave. Turning to the right requires you to stay there and push him back to the weaves, which keeps you there longer. Turn left on
Nice layering on the weaves to the next jump!And I thought the backside before the DW and after the DW was a bit challenging in the course design but sure enough… I have already see something similar on course this weekend (with a tunnel, not a DW, so even less time 🙁
Looking at the run:
He needed a little more info to go straight after the frame – you were quiet and hanging back on the first run so he had a little zig zag line there at 2:14. You were much clearer about the drive forward at 3:49 and he looked great!
The BC from the tunnel exit to the teeter was perfect both times 🙂
On 6 –
You said “go on” after teeter, so he did indeed go on 🙂 (2:20)
That spot at 3:57 was better but I think you can send and leave sooner, – just give him one step off the teeter than move away laterally. Plus, you can use a brake arm to get a better turn – he was still looking forward over 6, so you can ask for more collection on the approach to it.He got the turn to the weaves, but it was wide and you had to hang out there to push him back to the weaves. This is a perfect spot for your switch cue – he knows it really well and you don’t need to get close to the jump to do it. You can do the switch then cue the weaves and be down the line waiting for him 🙂
You played with 2 different FC options after the weaves: the first one at 2:45 is what put him over the off course – it was late and you stepped forward out of it. The second one on the landing side at 4:11 worked a lot better because you were earlier.
I think if you did the switch on the jump before the weaves, then really trusted his weaves, you could do a blind cross while he is still weaving in either of those spots and get the turn really easily 🙂 Doing the cross before he exits the weaves will give very clear early info.
15-end looked great on the first run! On the 2nd run, you were a bit late on the push at after the tunnel at 4:13 (he was already approaching the jump) – the timing of the first run was earlier and more successful.
The switches on that closing line work beautifully – great job with your connection and patience to get it done!
Those switches are one of the reasons I recommend that you do it on the jump before the weaves – super strong independent skill!!>>Almost caught up – if you ignore how much I skipped.>>
You can go back and catch anything you missed, if life and Mother Nature cooperate 🙂
Great job!!
TracyTracy Sklenar
KeymasterHi!
Seq 3: Good handling choices! Eventually you might be able to do the backside push while layering 🙂 It is a good one to work because I bet we see that with the dog walk in the center of the ring at some point soon.
You can walk it more thoroughly though – doing it without speed and not thinking about what his commitment looks like is what bit you at 1:01 (jump 10).In that spot in the walk through, you planned your movement but you can add in the timing of starting the cue AND when he looks at the jump and is committed.
The first run went really well – the cues at 10 were not as clear (almost looked like a threadle wrap. On the 2nd run, you were better about waiting to see commitment, so he got it nicely! (I don’t think he needed the spin there anyway, his turn was lovely!)
You can leave for the next line as soon as you see him look at the bar. At 1:01, he never really looked at the bar – he was looking in that direction but then you pulled back so he came with you. On threadles, you will see a distinct head turn to look at the bar (often accompanied by a lead change and a first step to the wing.
So after watching these all in a row – if you add a couple of things to your walk through, I think you will be able to nail these runs with both dogs, on the first run.
So what to add?
– connection to the invisible dog in the walk through – where is the dog? You were tending to look ahead to the next thing, but the dog is still behind you, so that will change your timing on the fly (or set up connection errors). So – always thinking about where exactly the dog is.
– hand in hand with connection, think about exactly what it looks like when the dog says “I see it, you can go now!” to confirm the dog is committed. This is most important on the really hard lines like wraps, threadles and layering. And there is an element of patience and waiting until you see that from the dog – you keep cuing the thing until you see the dog’s head lock onto it, then you can go to the next thing. This is harder at first but it will make ALL the difference.For example – I rushed my dogs on a backside in Speedstakes this morning, and did not wait to see them turn their heads to it… so I got the front side with all of them. OOPSIE! LOL!!! My bad.
I reminded myself to wait for the dog to confirm commitment and then nailed a hard Team Jumping run. That illustrates the difference – just keep supporting the cue until the dog says “I see it!”.Then… walk those pieces faster 🙂 Go faster than you think the dogs even need you to go! If you can practice going faster than the dogs and still getting all the handling and connections and confirmations from the dog, then a real time run will be SUPER easy 🙂
Great job here! Let me know what you think!
TracyTracy Sklenar
KeymasterHi!
This is where the walk through rehearsal will make a big difference – especially the connection to her and the seeing her give you the thumbs up that she is committed 🙂 And then… walk it all faster at Emmie speed, so you can lock in the connection and timing before running her. You can see that the send into the layering is forward-facing, meaning you were looking at the jump and not at her, which opens up the tunnel (shoulders and feet are pointing to the tunnel :))On the run –
She is a little tentative when you are not connected at the beginning – not run-in as fast and drifting a little to wait for more info. She got it, but more connection will drive her through faster and with more confidence.
On the layering – it is counterintuitive, but looking at the dog more gets them to work at a distance better. Pointing forward revealed the tunnel 4-5 – as you broke it down, you added more connection and less of a high arm, so she was able to get it nicely! That is definitely something to plan for.
>>Then I got lazy handling the backside and took it for granted.
I think eventually she won’t need the connection shift to the landing spot of the backside at 2:18, but it is definitely something to remember for now 🙂 You got it nicely on the last rep!
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Tracy Sklenar
KeymasterHi!
Looking at the walk through, it looks like you were blocking the wing at 2, then not cueing the last wrap til she has exited the tunnel. So you can plan to trust her more there at 2 because she totally has the backside skill, and plan to call her and show the next cue before she goes into the tunnel.
Also, I think you were definitely better with thinking about where she will be on each line here, but it can be done more at her speed so it really locks in.It went well overall, nice job! More connection to the backside will definitely help her out.
2nd run here and last run with Kippy, you were further across jump 2, not at entry wing – trust that skill and plan for it, as it changes the timing of the next line to be in that position versus closer to the entry wing. 🙂
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