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The lazy game with the toy looked great – my favorite thing about it was that you were being properly lazy 🙂 and giving the verbals… and she was responding to the verbals without you actually needing to turn! Super! For example, your ‘right’ verbal was getting her turned as you strolled through and didn’t help her do the turn. That is GREAT NEWS for her being able to respond to verbals independently of handling!!
Lazy Game parts 2 & 3
Very nice connection on the first set up reps where you were timing the cues and doing the one step sending to the middle jump. Nailed it! After that you had the lazy game with the tunnel and she did well too – she needed a bit more of a cue to get the tunnel but that is fine, because that is an easy cue to give on course.
Keep connecting like you did here – it was really lovely – you were able to maintain that connection as you started running faster, and that meant your were nailing your timing of the cues as well. Connection makes timing a LOT easier. Your timing was basically as she was lifting off for the previous jump, which is really good for now. My guess is that is where her “adult” timing will end up: at liftoff for the previous jump, because waiting for landing will be too late when she is jumping full height bars.
Speaking of bars: since this went really well, you can give her more of a bar to jump: These looked to be 8 inches? If so, you can go to 10 then 12 in the next session (even if it is a different sequence).
3rd video with wraps:
Great job with your connection, verbals, and timing of the wrap rotation. She is doing brilliantly with moving from extension to collection to extension – good girlie!!!!!
You started to add more of your running in the 2nd rep and 3rd rep, which is great because that way we can put in the transitions to give her the info even sooner. Based on how well she did here, you can run more on the 1-2-3-4 line (I think she is ready for you to really run as long as you stay connected). Then, as she is lifting off for 4 (the middle jump), you can start decelerating and giving the wrap verbal, so she can land with the info about the collection. That will allow you to rotate sooner and she will collect beautifully.
Looking at the last 2 reps, with the wrap at 1:01 versus the wrap at 1:17 –
On the rep starting at about :59, you were moving a little more slowly so as she was jumping 4, you accelerated into the wrap – that cued her to take off in extension for the 5 jump, so the wrap cues are as she was lifting off nd most of her turn as made after landing of 5.
Now compare to the rep that started at 1:14 – when she committed to 3, you accelerated then as she was over 4 at 1:17, you decelerated and began the wrap cues – she collected before takeoff and had a great turn! Yay!
So keep working that timing of the transition. Bear in mind that you do not need to be right at the wing, so if she gets ahead of you – the timing remains the same and you can do the wrap cues from any position!
Great job here! Let me know what you think!
TracyHi!
Hope you had a great weekend!
Yes, you forgot you were supposed to move on the first rep, I was typing ‘you can move more” when you said that on the video LOL!!! The rest looked really strong!!
When you were moving, it was just about perfect! The only thing to add now is NOT flip him away or step to the threadle entry of the tunnel, let him find it himself when you are moving forward.
You will basically keep moving forward slowly, saying the verbal and doing the arm cue – then wait for him to turn his head to the tunnel. You can mark that and then move to the tunnel and then reward.
Great job here! Let me know how he does when you are helping less and letting him find it more independently!
Tracy
Hi!
>>I looked through the max pup stuff and couldn’t find a throw back video. Is there one somewhere?
It is in all the backwards sending games 🙂 So you can see it in the prop games and barrel games in MaxPup 1 that are sideways and backwards sending. And in the proofing games, we do a throwback on the backside slice proofing game – it is isolated but definitely a throwback.
>> I know you aren’t home and you may not know exactly where everything is!>>
I am rarely home at this time of year LOL!!!
>>Yes, Sprite was a good girl with the out jump. I felt like I lead out too far and was running out of room.>>
Ah yes – that is a legit point. Part of t he layering strategy is just how close to the start of the layer you need to be, to get the line without running out of room and ending up with no place to move to. Stay tuned for the live class, there is stuff that covers this in there.
>>We tried one jump throw back and RC wrap. Left the bar at 16. I’m thinking a lot with the throw back. Is this even correct?
I am a little under-caffeinated and I thought you were doing all throw backs and wondering why you were cuing rear crosses at the beginning LOL!!!! That means the rear cross/tandem turns looked great 🙂
On the very first rep – you were not clear, it totally looked like a throw back to the left wrap wing so she was correct. Be sure to mark all “errors” in anything handling as correct for her, because it is all human error for all of us 🙂
The next several reps were great tandems, and you got earlier and earlier. If you want them tighter, add some decel and it will be perfect!
The throw backs looked great – it is hard to do on one jump but you nailed it! Great job with the mechanics and the shifting connection. Sprite had no questions, which is especially good because she had just done all those rear crosses and if we mess up a throw back, the dogs read it as a rear cross 🙂
>I’d need to get a lot better before using it on a course. I recall the one jump standing still and send while facing the dog and sending back. I just don’t recall having a drill where we did this skill>
I believe the moving throw backs were in MaxPup 3:
Great job here!! Let me know what you think!
TracyHi!
Hope you had a great weekend 🙂 The distance seminar sounds fun! Now we add in the layering and all is good!The visual of the obstacle being layered is hard and small dogs have to take a lot more strides to stay out on the line. So it is more about the training and not as much about handling.
Rosie Video 1:
Two things that will really help Rosie tp get the distance without the spins or questions:Handling the layering with motion:
By this – don’t treat it like a send because that stops your motion and she was tending not to go the first time on the send – she was going when she figured out the sequence 🙂 Layering is strongest when we can stay on a parallel line and keep running fast! So, to help her get that concept, set up the visual obstruction a little closer to the layering jump so you can run a parallel line to it rather than stop and send.Rewarding as far away from you as possible: rather than reward her near you for finishing the sequence, try to always throw a reward to the landing side of the layering jump. This can be from a lotus ball since she is a foodie 🙂 And the timing of the throw is when she looks at the jump! You don’t need to wait for her to take the jump, you can mark and throw as soon as she even looks at it 🙂 That will really begin to get her looking away from you.
And if she really has a tough time, you can place the toy out on the line before you start the sequence – so she can do jump, tunnel – then the lotus ball or a manners minder can be in front of the #3 jump 🙂 Then move the reward to the landing side and further and further away over time.
When she gets the idea that she can go to that jump independently – smooth sailing from there!!
On the second video – one other thing that I see here is that your opposite arm helps her stay out on the layering line! You had more motion here so she was a better staying on the line, plus she already saw the sequence 🙂
The ‘turn’ cue on jump 4 to turn away looked great!
Note the reward placement – it was all from your hand, right near you. If we can shift the placement to be out on the line, you will see a huge shift in her focus on the line. The reward placement was why she kept having trouble finding the jump, even though she ran the line a bunch of times.
At 1:44, you decelerated at jump 4 so she thought you wanted the turn, good girl.
She was finding the other lines nicely! The spins were her not being sure if she should go that far away – the sends we good, but it delays you from mooing up the line (plus it is hard to send then there is a dog walk there :))
She found the tunnel at a distance really well each and every time, so this is mainly about the jump on the line – get more parallel line motion and throw or place the reward out there, and it will be much easier 🙂
Looking at Lily’s videos – Yes, she wants to be close to you 🙂 I think she homework for her is the same was with Rosie:
Keeping the barrier in as close as needed so you can stay in motion on a parallel line (might be 2 feet away from the jump)And throwing the reward on the line.
Both of these will help you keep moving and get more consistent layering: if you sent just at the right motion and with the right timing, she would get it. But she would often ask questions about the barrier or spin.
So with that in mind, the reward being placed in advance might be VERY helpful for her. It can be the Manners Minder placed right in front of the jump so she can drive to it as she exits the tunnel and you move up the line on a parallel line. You can click the MM as soon as she looks forward after the tunnel (but try to resist temptation to do a big send arm & leg – keep moving :))
On the 2nd video:
I love that you moved the barrier in closer so she could find the line and you could keep moving – that was PERFECT and really helpful for her. And you can more the #4 jump in loser too, so it is easier for her to find the jump #5 while you keep moving through the layering.So definitely keep the barrier in close, just a few feet from the jump, and keep moving like you did at about :36-:39. That was GREAT! You had cones there and you ran between the cones and the barrier – and she nailed it. YAY! So more of that for sure! (And throw or place all rewards to the line, no more rewards from hand when layering :))
She did far better with the layering when you stayed in motion. She did get it with the send, but keeping you in motion will make it a lot easier to get ahead and set up the turn on jump 4 🙂
Great job here! Let me know how it goes with the parallel motion and rewards on the line!
Tracy
Hi!
>>I don’t have video but have been doing extremely short tug sessions and then tossing down great treats (I had just been using kibble but now have freeze-dried liver and other yummy things, and the issue was only with toys, never food) and it’s gone well. >>
Yay! The more you practice the up and down of the arousal, the easier it will get 🙂 Then we just have to make it through adolescence and she will have a much easer time with it all.
On the video: lots of good work!! There was so much success here – I love it!
Having her cot there gave her a good landing pad between reps, and that helped set up a lot of success 🙂
The wrap to the treat went well with the FC on the first rep and the spin on the 2nd rep!
3rd & 5th rep: FABULOUS job catching her attention for the decel! Nice!When something goes wrong, you can give her a cookie to reset (4th and 6th rep) because yes… handler error (you were a little far from the barrel and too quick to move away. I think also she did better going to the barrel when you had an empty hand on the send hand? So keep that hand empty to test my theory 🙂
Turn away on the flat is looking good! First video: You had a nice decel and very obvious hand cues, so she was easily able to do the tandem turns. She seemed to read it better when you had your outside arm involved, so definitely keep using that.
2nd video: you switched to the lap turn and she did really well! You had really clear mechanics, well done to you!
When you added the prop: The prop needed to be a bit further away so that she was not running directly over it to get ti you – when you added the tandem turns, she had a better starting position (at the end of the video) and that really helped!!
She does have a lot of prop value but that is great – and you can see on video 3 that she was happy to come to the magic cookie hand fr the lap turn and then go hit the prop. She will hit the prop even better if the turn hand is empty (so she is not following a cookie) but overall, I think she looked great on these!
Great job here! Let me know what you think!
TracyGood morning!
>>She offered me a set up and we rolled with it
She was great about offer that first line up and letting the lash cue off!
>>The second time she offered again but I was too far behind the wing so I did try to move. She couldn’t stay and I just wanted to let the situation diffuse quick. Hope that was ok?>>
It was the best thing to do in the moment – it doesn’t really matter to her if she gets a cookie… if there is a perception of “wrong” then she shows stress behavior. So the perception of wrong of the hesitation from you and the verbals (when she is wrong, your energy changes and your verbals get quieter). Even if you are smiling and throwing a cookie, she still perceives it as a wrong moment.Because it is great that she is offering the line up: You can release right away as soon as the leash is off and you step away, or reward right away by tossing a treat behind her. For now, even if she is in the wrong spot – no lead outs for now at all because she broke then knew something was off and you got stress behavior. We want to protect the offering of the line up, that is great!
When she ended up on the other side of the jump:
>>Interesting even tho she got paid she had to get her leash right after. Makes sense.>>
The cookie is not really significant to her in that moment, because there were a series of cues telling her she was wrong:
The “Almost” verbal is a ‘that was wrong’ marker and the slight hesitation was too, so you got stress even though you tossed a cookie. Don’t mark with almost, use your “THAT WAS AWESOME” reward then reward the same way as you would if she got the correct side of the jump. Errors on course are handler errors, so it might be confusing to her and she follows your cues, then only gets the almost marker and a passive reward.On the next rep, you had much stronger connection and more push on her line to the jump, then a very different reward (marker, excitement level) when she got the front side of the jump, so very different response from her (happy to stick around, no stress behavior).
So we are making measurable progress with her resilience, moving the needle in the right direction, based on how she happily offered the line up and was fine with the leash coming off. She is still building the resilience for things going wrong on course, so it is important to never let her think things went wrong :). You are not deliberately telling her that she was wrong, but she is still reading it based on the difference in your responses.
Nice work!! Let me know what you think!
TracyPS Turn down both tunnel entries so she doesn’t hit her head if she accidentally ends up in the open entry after you get the jump.
Good morning!
>>It looks like you turned into the dog, threw back the left arm and then BC to get dog on right? If you start DOL then how is the new arm still the left arm? >>
The left arm is not the new arm, sorry for any confusion 🙂 On the throw back, I start the FC going from my left to my right. But halfway through, I stop the FC and face the dog: then using the left arm, I throw back behind me to the landing spot (and shift connection to the landing spot). Then yes, I exit with the dog on my right (which is the new arm at that point) because it is a spin/blind cross exit. I can make a close up video when I get home tomorrow if it still is not making sense 🙂
>>We are really trying to get a RC wrap on jump 5, correct? I definitely thought I was supposed to use the right arm here. Oops!>>
Do you mean the same jump as the throwback? You can put a rear cross wrap there, but the throwback is easier. I put a RC wrap on jump 4 which is a better spot for it.
>>We are still working on my timing of decel to get decent turns when I’m not at a distance.>>
Your decel on a normal course is looking great lately! So now it is just getting the hang of it at a distance with obstructions.
>>Because I doubt I’ll get to set this again we tried sequence two on her third turn. But, she was hot and tired and this is all we got done.>>
I thought this went GREAT! From what I could tell, she never looked at the tunnel when you were cuing the jump behind it (you were VERY clear that you wanted the jump… All.The.Cues. in terms of motion, connection, verbal, arm). And then when you asked for the tunnel? No problem for Sprite! Followed by the jump again at the end? Also no problem. Fantastic!!!!! Especially great since she was hot and tired (but she was still speedy and listening)!
Great job here!
TracyGood morning! This looked great! How is his tail doing?
>>I still felt like my movement was pretty minimal, but I guess with Dreamer that’s all he needs. We only ran it these three times and I was really happy with how we both did!>>
Yes and yes, on a really good way – you didn’t need to move much (but remember to keep using your verbals, you were getting quiet by the end) . And also yes- he was great all 3 times. He was certainly confident to do the big layering line! Nice!
There was a bar down at :06 on the first rep – it was when your ‘get out’ arm was coming up and you were slowing down, so be sure to keep moving as you do that (last bar on that sequence was the toy throw)
The arm came up in that spot after landing at :23 and he had no problem with the bar. The rest looked super : )
He also had no problem finding the layering line the other direction – super nice!!!
If he is still not cleared for tunnels or weaving, you can do the pop outs that have weaves and replace the weaves with your obstruction 🙂 And replace the tunnel with a jump or two like you did here.
Great job!!
TracyThis one is the Rear cross on 5 – he was asking a lot of questions because you were walking. The walking cued collection on each jump, so he was basically asking: turn now? Turn now?
So you can definitely run more which will cue him to run more. To get the rear cross and still run, run very closer to the wing of the red and yellow jump, then you can set up the line for the rear cross. He is reading the rears very nicely (those are hard for young dogs!) so now we can add more acceleration 🙂
Great job on these! Let me know what you think!
Tracy
This the blind cross to the tunnel. On the first rep on each side, you were decelerated and helping more than he needs on the middle jump… and then had a big “I better hurry” moment and accelerated to the blind. This cued extension on the jump before the blind, which made him surprised by the blind.
The 2nd rep no each side was much smoother because you left the pinwheel jump to get to the blind sooner, which really helped!
You can send away more to the 4 jump (middle jump) and the run like mad to the blind 🙂 That will get you there in plenty of time, and will also help us see how independent his commitment is 🙂
On all 4 reps here, your connection after the blind was AWESOME so he was able to pick up the new side each time. Well done!!!
T
This is the sequence with the added distance between jumps. His commitment is looking great! Both directions looked super!
You got rotated sooner on the wrap jump so he turned a lot better here.I think you can accelerate more from the tunnel to jumps 3 and 4 – that will get even more speed on those lines. Because you are walking a bit, he is in collection the whole time, waiting for the turn (good boy!) so if you accelerate 2-3-4 then decel, you will have more extension on the big lines and still get the great turn. Nice work!
T
Good morning!
This is the front cross wrap sequence:
The sound might have been a bit off but I swear you said “go tunnel” for the middle jump LOL! I totally relate, it just comes out sometimes LOL!!
On the wrap – start to decelerate sooner so he can collect more for the wrap. Yo can experiment with timing, but the latest would be landing from the yellow middle jump: decelerate but keep moving forward until you see his feet lift for the wrap jump, then you can do the FC and accelerate away.
And while you are doing that, running closer to the line will allow you to show acceleration – by using distance here, you ended up a little past the wrap jump so he jumped a little long, based on your position.
At the end end of the video, you stretched out the distances which should feel a lot better!
Nice work!
TracyHi! Hooray for dry weather!
The lazy game is looking good! I think she was wondering why there was no running but she was still happy to eat your cookies LOL!
The tunnel needed a bit more of a cue but she easily committed when you cued it a little. For this game, try to throw the cookie when you see her look at the jump as she is moving. That way she will jump looking straight. She was looking at you a little bit over the bar when you tossed it as she was jumping.
Adding speed looked fabulous! Excellent commitment and super fast 🙂 You didn’t have to do a lot to get her committed which was great because that opens up bandwidth to add the other cues like turns and verbals, etc.
Adding the wrap:
Doing the wrap on the 5 jump as a spin at 2:25 worked all but I bet you can do a send and go with her like at 2:44 and she will turn beautifully! Less is more when it comes to handling speedy dogs – keeps us ahead of them LOL!
Wrapping 5 to the inside also went well – you can give her more of a transition so she can accelerate into it and then decelerate at the wrap jump. You were in a steady motion and then did the turn as she took off at 3:41 and 3:52 so she made the turn after landing.
What I mean by transition is that after you send to the #2 tunnel, you can accelerate and drive her through the 3 and 4 jumps. Then, as she is landing from 4, you can slow dow as you keep moving forward. When she is collected and just barely lifting her feet for the wrap jump, you can do the FC then accelerate to the next line (all with connection of course :))
Her excellent commitment should be really helpful with the transitions, because she will tay n her line really easily!!
Great job here! Let me know what you think!
TracyHi!
>>Then switched to the toy and was so glad he was able to switch to the toy and keep him engaged.>>
Yes! That was huge!!!!
Well done building this lazy game up into a true sequence: SO FUN!!! He was fast with great commiemtn in both directions.
My only advice is to put more bags on the tunnel because he is going fast and the tunnel is moving more than we want it to do (we don’t want his toes to get caught!)>>And at the end I tried to put some blinds in.
It went really well! He is now ready for that ‘fluffy blinds’ sequence fro the live class using this setup, as well as the wraps sequence.
>>He seemed fine with the distance, what do you think?>>
Yes, the distance was easy for him 🙂 no problem at all!
One more suggestion: do 2 or 3 reps total, then end the session, especially now that we are getting into sequences. There have been a bunch of sequences where he leaves because he is tired (he did that at the end here) and we want to be sure to end before he tells us he doesn’t want to do it anymore. So do 2 or 3 reps, then give him a break for a while, then do another couple of reps later on. Make it a priority to be finished before he wants to be finished.
Great job here!
TracyI can TOTALLY relate!!!! You can try different things and see what works:
– try the breathing games, but with counting: breathe in for 4 through your nose 1…2…3…4
hold for 7 1…2…3…4….6…7…
Exhale for out of of your mouth
1…2…3…4…5…6…7…8…– try the 5 things you can see and 5 things you can touch game
– try singing along to your favorite music, concentrating on the lyrics 🙂
Those can all work to quiet your mind!
Tracy
