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Hi!
Really interesting to see her take off after the 2nd rep where she was successful – low frustration tolerance for lack of motion!
You can help her out in two ways:
– after saying the verbal a few times with you totally stationary, let go of her and do an arm point to the correct obstacle. It will help her out a little, it will still build up the verbals, and it is easy to fade 🙂And separately – you can do a bit of a ‘lazy tunnel’ game by straightening out the tunnel and making it shorter, then walk towards the entry with minimal connection/handling, just saying the verbal. And BIG rewards at the exit when she takes it. That will help that argument at the tunnel! She doesn’t love the tunnel so this can help.
>>On to this week’s first game! This was REALLY hard once we moved on to the second side. We clearly need to play the stationary game more to help build this skill.>>
I can’t get it to play – youtube says it is still processing. Last night I thought it was because you had just posted, but now there appears to be a glitch. Let me know if you are seeing the same error?
Thanks!
TracyHi!
>>When you say more eye contact do you mean to look at him or the obstacle more?>>
Look at him more, because that will line up your shoulders better to the line you want him on.
T
Hi!
Well done with the videos!! I hope it was not too much anxiety because they all looked terrific!On the first video, great job with your mechanics – you were great about being super stationary and looking at him – and he was perfect about going to the jump! Yay!
>>t I have trouble with my reward markers as I am just learning to use different ones>>
You were consistently using them here! I don’t think Gibbs is totally used to them yet because he would look back at you when you tossed the reward, but he will figure it out fast 🙂
Video 2 was the tunnel verbal game – lovely also! Gibbs was happy to drive to the tunnel with ZERO handling help (and on this clip, he saw the ‘get it’ reward very easily and didn’t look back LOL!)
Video 3, this is the super hard version of the game (from the chair). He is sorting it out really nicely: at first he tried to predict which obstacle it was based on his line up spot, but then he was differentiating based on the verbal (and from neutral position).
Your mechanics were almost perfect here – great job paying such close attention to mechanics, a giant click treat for you! The only time you had a mechanics blooper was when he got the tunnel and you said “YES!” so he came back out LOL!!! The big “yes” verbal seems to pull the dogs back to us (I do this by accident too) so keep using the get it and if you accidentally say yes and he pulls off – no worries, he can have a reset cookie and try again without the big yes (and you took the “yes” out on the last rep and he was perfect!!)
Super job here! Definitely keep posting, these looked great!!!!!
Tracy
We haven’t set the date for the next one – probably next week because this week is NUTS between the webinar on Wednesday and then I have to drive to Florida for the ESPN invitational. I figure Monday or Tuesday of next week should work!
TracyHi!
Rocky was super on both of these!! He seems to have no question about how to read the handling on either video. Yay! That is great especially considering he is such a young dog! He looks at you when your hand is pointing forward and he can’t see connection, so try to use less hand pointing and use more eye contact.
He looks ready for more challenge: you can take out some of the handling and emphasize the verbals. You can do this by walking forward and just saying the words, but not really trying to handle or run 🙂Great job!!
TracyHi!
Sounds like you had a successful training session! YAY!! Bummer about the video!!>>This one looked simple til you got into it!
That is my goal: it looks easy til you try it… then it is very challenging! LOL !
>> Question: Do I have a choice as to how I wrap him around the wing? I was thinking for the last part, if I wrapped him around the wing from right to left, his trajectory would be out away from the jump and the tunnel might be more obvious…(or is that cheating?)>>
Wrap him the better line, which is the harder way, no cheating LOL!! We are trying to get it done with emphasis on verbals and the better line presents both obstacles. That will simulate what you see on course, so it is great trial prep!
Have fun!
TracyInterestingly, this post came through again – was it supposed to be a different one, or is the internet sending gremlins to mess us up? LOL!
Hi!
These went really nicely!!!
You were clear and connected and he really had no questions except a bar down ar 1:34 when you were a little off the line to cue the jump and he had to jump it at a harder angle (ticked it from the same angle at 1:58, so it is an angle to revisit to help him set up the jumping skill).Handling looked great, connection was great…. so an added challenge to this setup would be to try to rush more by sending less to the start wing – run to it then you will be behind in your timing for the other cues. That means you can run really hard an disconnect a little… kind of like what we do at trials LOL!!!! That will be more stimulating and less connected, so it would eb a good challenge to see if he can still find the lines on those 🙂 You can try the rushed approach on this setup (to simulate trial conditions) or you can try it on the week 2 games 🙂
Great job!
TracyHi!
I am so glad she is feeling better!
>>Sheseems to resodn to “jump” better than “Juuuump!”>>
I think it also had something to do with the volume – after :36, the volume of the jump verbal got quieter and so it helped gather her in for the jump, rather than propel her away to the tunnel. So definitely keep the volume softer on the jump verbal and nice and loud on the tunnel verbals 🙂
She had a little trouble finding the jump, so I think
we can also tweak the set up a little – the blue wing ended up sending her past the pink jump even when she turned super tight around it, so try to move the wing further away so as she exits, she can see the tunnel and the full bar of the front side – that way you won’t have to do any handling help!Nice work here! Let me know what you think!
TracyGood morning!
The tunnel double whammy game looks strong!! She only had one question, which was at :50 when you didn’t step to the tunnel. But you had a great reset moment and a big step to commit her on all the other reps. Yay!
Time to add more motion 🙂 You can be walking forward as you are cuing the threadle (you were moving slowly so you can have a faster pace now). You started to add in more motion at the very end and she was great!
And throw in a couple of reps where you connect with her at the exit of the tunnel but just run forward and do NOT cue the threadle, so she doesn’t put herself back into the tunnel unless she is cued 🙂
The left/right minny pinny is also looking great – she completed the turns even though you were already moving away, and her footwork was really strong (one moment of rushing when she saw the toy but she was great on the rest of the reps). We will be building this up even more in MaxPup 2 🙂
Great job on these!!!
>>The volunteer wing wrap is something that I think I can do in the driveway or maybe in the house so I can try those suggestions.>>
Perfect! Fingers crossed for NO MORE SNOW 🙂
Tracy
Good morning!
>> We are going to be spending some time making more deposits in our stay bank.
It think it is not so much about making more deposits, it I think it is more about clarifying what the release is.
>> Crazy how it can all fall apart so easily.
Ain’t that the truth!!! This happens because we pair the release with movement or position by accident… and the dog learns this immediately so releases based on these as “cues”.
He was most successful when you were in motion and connected the whole time, and either released forward or tossed the reward back – your continuous connection and motion are notpaired with the release, so he was waiting for the verbal.
He released because the verbal when you got near the barrel (because of accidental pairing of your position/arrival at the barrel with the release) and when you reconnected after leading out (because you have paired reconnection with the simultaneous verbal).
The focal point of the stays, then, should be to unpair these accidental releases LOL!! Lead out, stand still, praise…. then either release or throw the reward back. And when you lead out, you can stay connected the whole time so you don’t accidentally connect and release simultaneously. And, the connection really supports the stay with puppies. When you disconnect, he starts to wonder if he should be staying or not, like at 4:55 when you moved away with no connection so he started to move at 4:59 when you arrived at the barrel.
And also, be sure you lead out near the barrel but don’t release as soon as you arrive: the praise will help unpair your arrival near the barrel with instant action.
And if something goes awry, like he moves and then you release or cue the barrel… you need to reward him and reset rather than tell him he is wrong if you have said the release or cue (like at :15 or at 1:25 when you led out, then reconnected/released and he moved on the reconnection – but you gave a cue and then told him was incorrect… so to avoid frustration, make things clearer and unpair the reconnection and arrival at the barrel with the release.
He was great about holding the stay when the leash came off, and putting his head into the leash! YAY!! That all looked fabulous 🙂
Nice work here! Let me know if the ‘unpairing’ ideas make sense 🙂
TracyThere have been a lot of positive outcomes and return to high level agility after this injury!!! I can put you in touch with some folks if you want some moral support.
T
Good morning!
He did well on the verbal only session, nice high rate of success!!! Tis is a good game to revisit here and there – so the next time you play it, try to say the verbals 3 times and then release him… regardless of where he is looking. You giving a bit of help by holding him til he looked at the correct obstacle. He is ready for more challenge you let him go ecen if he is looking at the wrong obstacle. Yes, he might have an error but that will help him sort it out even more, without hanler help 🙂
The combos are going well! And yes, remember the jump verbal – when you did say the jump verbal, he drove the line even faster than when you were quiet. It doesn’t defeat the purpose to not use it, because we also want him to read the handling. And the handling all looked super strong – nice connection! I don’t think he had any questions here!! YAY!!!
So since these went so well… onwards to week 2 games that are now posted! I will send the official email in about 2 minutes 🙂
Great job!
TracyHello to you and Rocky!! He is adorable!!
>>Rocky is 16 months old and a product of the pandemic and a couch potatoes Mom. I know he should be farther along but that’s life.>>
I don’t agree that he should be further along – he is an adolescent boy, so doing simple stuff at this point and letting him grow up a little is going to set up long term success later in life!!! I don’t want you to feel pressured – enjoy the training adventures with him!
He was a good boy in the first video! Perfect! You supported him with motion and connection and your verbals were strong. And, he ignored Grady being jealous in the background (hi Grady!)
The 2nd video was also super nice! You know the handling cues are clear when a baby dogs get it right, because the baby dogs don’t know how to save us if we are unclear 🙂
The next two links are marked private, can you switch to unlisted?
Great start here!!!
TracyGood morning!
Wow, she looked so good on these combos!! Your connection is fabulous and that makes a big difference to her (along with the verbals). Even when you were way ahead (like at :38) she still found the line to the tunnel with the verbal and connection. And when you were closer to the wing like on the last rep – still no questions. YAY!!! Her tightest turns around the wing to the next obstacle were all when you had the clearest connections (like at :13 when you did the FC to head back to the tunnel).I don’t have any suggestions other than “keep up the great connection and verbals” LOL!!!!
So, challenges mastered… onwards to the week 2 games which build on these skills and are posted (I will be sending the official email in about 5 minutes).
Great job here!!
Tracy
