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Hi!
This session went really well too!
Looking at the rear crosses – at the beginning, you were a little too early 🙂 by turning your feet to the next line before he was really past you (like at :07). He had to run across your feet to get the front of the bar, which he did – but that would make it hard to cue a backside.
You adjusted that though, and kept your feet running forward to the center of the bar for longer til he was passing you ad looking at the front, like at :37 and then all of the reps in the 2nd part of the session. Nice!!He was really strong with the GO reps too, with just one question when he went past the jump at :23.
I think 2 things happened there:
He was just looking for the placed reward from the previous reps, and at :19 when he exited the tunnel, you were tucked into to where the wing and bar meet, so the pressure was part of what pushed him off the line (I don’t think you were too far ahead).Compare to next rep where you were further away laterally and he was not looking for the placed toy 🙂 And same with the Go reps after that. Really nice! And the post turns also looked good – he had no trouble with that at all.
Great job!
TracyHi! This is going super well!!
Really nice verbal difference between the GO and the ‘right’ – it totally got his attention and made the turn much easier. Yo can cue the tunnel as soon as he takes off for the jump – you were cuing it after landing so he as waiting a bit.
And when you go back to the “go”, throw the reward sooner – he was starting to look at you because he realized that there was a potential tunnel option now LOL!!The next step is to move the start wing “around the clock”. It is was a 1 o’clock here, you can more it to 12 o’clock, 11 o’clock, etc… so that he is eventually starting on the other side of the tunnel with you and has to go all the way past the tunnel to find the jump for layering.
Great job!
TracyHi!
>>Thank you for taking the time to help with some ideas on what might be going on with Caper. I really appreciate it and it makes me feel a little less freaked out when you mention some of the changing behaviors you have in your own pups.>>
It is good to brain storm and share ideas when striving adolescence with the dogs 🙂
>>On her running around with the toy, I really think it will help me be more chill too if I just let her run and get it worked out. Thanks for that reminder.>>
it gives her a moment of decompression while you sort out your next rep 🙂 If she doesn’t need the moment, she will bring the toy back immediately.
>>Should I start to add my word for that? I haven’t done that yet and I am going to have a different word for it than the backside slice.
A different word is perfect! If she is doing well with them then yes, add the verbal.
>> Would you suggest that when I start working on this, that I don’t mix backside wrap training with backside slice training until my handling and her understanding are clear? >>
The wind in your hair games are not really set up for good backside slices (the handler won’t be in a clear position) so just stick to the Go, rear cross, and backside circles on those. We will hit more backside slices later on in the class 🙂
>>I am planning on being outside here at home. The weather is going to be chilly but should be fine otherwise. I am very excited to be back outside.>>
YAY! Outside! the games will keep you warm, there is a lot of running if you have the space 🙂
Tracy
Hi! I don’t see a downside. The priority is that both of you are relaxed and connected, like you mentioned with your Terv. And the down can get that for Georgie. We definitely don’t want the two of you fighting with each other! And she might never looked relaxed but at least you will have a chuckle at her intensity LOL!!
Hi!
He did well with the ladder grid! It was definitely harder for him – he was a little more front-end-thinking than powering from the rear. What does that mean? That the angled jumps were making him think about how to move through the line – this is a GOOD thing because so many high drive dudes like SB would just plaster through the bars. He did not – he thought through the puzzle. YAY!! So what to do next? In a day or two, show it to him again, exactly like this, and see how his brain has worked through the puzzle (latent learning for the win, plus the practice will develop new neural pathways aka “cool sh*t” :))
The jumping drills are puzzles so seeing him work through the puzzle is great!
The rear crosses are definitely coming along nicely! You were starting this from being laterally away from him – The first RC rep had you starting too late so he didn’t turn, but you were much earlier on all the others so he was able to get it. My favorite RC rep was the last RC rep (2nd to last rep on the video) where you got on the RC line immediately and produced the best turn. SUPER! And there was a very very clear difference between the RCs and the Go lines, so he had no trouble knowing the difference. Super!!!
You can switch up the challenge on this setup too – you can start much closer to the tunnel and so you set the RC line from very close to him starting closer to the tunnel exit.
Great job on these!
TracyHi! This went really well!
One suggestion to get even more commitment as you move past the backside wrap: shift your connection from her cute face to the landing spot. You can be connected to her lime you were all the way through until she is rounding the backside and turning her head to takeoff… At that point, you can be looking at and pointing at the landing spot (as you move past the jump). And if you are getting past the jump wing before she gets there, you can look at the landing spot a little sooner.
This will be especially useful when she is working on her more challenging side. At :16, she did’t take the jump (you were looking at her) but compare to :48 where you looked at the landing and she took it beautifully. Yay! That exaggerated shift in connection won’t always be needed but it is really helpful in the learning process.Great job! You can put this into the game that shows her the difference between the rear crosses and the backside wraps and the Go lines 🙂
Tracy
Hi!
He has really good line commitment, which both helped you and hindered you here LOL! The line you were setting as he came around the wing was directly to the backside, so he was correct to run to the backside line unless otherwise turned.To help set up the line you want, a small tweak to the opening:
Do a Front cross on the wing to start this, so he exits the wing looking straight at the bar and to get a good line to the jump: in this setup – start with him on your rift send to the inside of the wing (the edge between the jump and the wing) then FC to your left sos set up the straight line to the wing. (And the mirror image on the opposite side).Doing a post turn made it harder for him to find the jump in the straight line and on the rear crosses – the parallel line took him to the backside (correctly) so he needed to be pulled in then turned, which made the turn cues late.
He was reading the lines and the RCs, and the reward placement definitely helped! So I think the change in the starting line will really help.
The middle video is marked as unavailable, so it is probably listed as private.
On the second Wind In Your Hair Video, the wing was closer and moved over to a clearer line to the bar, but you can see how he still has to come in to find it on most reps rather than just go straight to it. So the FC start on the wing will work nicely here too!
He did well with the thrown reward here! Ve sure to have it already in your hand – he gets distracted when you reach for the pocket as he is looking for the jump (he looks at you because his loves his cookies LOL!)
Nice work here!!!
Tracy
Hi!
The first five of these are probably listed as private – I am getting a 404 error on those. The last one looked good! On the serp, remember to open u your upper body to “face” the jump and keep moving, so he learns to come in over the bar even as you are still in motion.let me know when the others are reset to unlisted.
Nice work!
TracyGood morning! This went well!!
Connection and verbals all looked really good and yes, going in to the tunnel more so you can accelerate more helped her really drive around that racetrack. She is starting to really get some good distance, too!
She was definitely faster on the first couple of reps of the tight turning at the beginning and the first rep on the other side when you changed sides. Yay! I think she only likes one or two reps of the tight turning stuff in a row, so to keep the speed up you will want to mix in a race track or two before doing more of the tight stuff.One more suggestion: more tunnel bags needed 🙂 She is moving fast through the tunnel and the tunnel is moving a lot under her, so you will want to use more bags to stabilize it so she doesn’t slip.
Great job!
TracyYes – she had the repair done at Skylos is December of 2020 and they had to go back in early February to remove the wire. They felt she had enough luxation that it needed to be fixed and I am glad I did it.
Hi!
Find the jump is looking great! She was really driving for the jump!
>>I pulled off just too early on the two of the tunnels. >>
Try to just keep moving and re-send her, rather than stop or use and uh-oh marker. She was following the body cues and you were a bit too early trying to leave the tunnel, so we don’t want to confuse her by telling her she is wrong. Staying in motion will keep her going and you can add another step or two towards the tunnel.
Throwing the toy on the line was perfect to help get even more focusing forward to the jump! The timing of the throw started early then got a bit later at the end, and was great!
She had a lot of speed on the smiley face game as well 🙂 I think it was cooler too, you are wearing long sleeves and pants, that cooler weather totally helps!
She definitely likes your marker sounds: “Yay!” And “get it!” Both of those really pump her up 🙂 And staying in motion while you rewarded – perfect 🙂 The handing of the wraps looked really good and the connection was particularly good. It was very high energy and she loved it… which is why you were both out of breath by the end LOL!
You can carry this energy over to the Diamond and the other games coming this week!About the doing handling with the toy in your hand – 3 suggestions the came to mind as I was thinking about her today:
1 – have a 2nd toy like you had later in the video and call her back to it after throwing the first one (she came right back when you were holding the second one!
2 – >>It’s very, very hard for her to ignore the toy and ignoring the mama if she is going another direction>>
For the handling games – we don’t really need precision rewards, so you can tuck the toy into a pocket so it is not distracting to her especially as she learns new things. Then you can pull it out to reward the rep when she finishes- that can help her look for the wings more.
3 – When it is hot, or very distracting outside for whatever reason, you can do entire sessions with just high value food. That can give you lots of tick reps, without the toy distraction and without running around with the toy getting her all hot and tired. She has plenty of toy drive, so we don’t have to worry about losing it if we sometimes just use food instead 🙂
Great job! See you in class tomorrow!!
TracyThat is a relief! I am glad she is feeling better. But keep her in bubble wrap for another day or two!
No worries! At first I thought it was different reps and I as amazing at how identical they were LOL!
Hi!
>> If I toss a toy towards the barrel, should I aim for the start of the turn in the beginning?
Yes, you can toss a turn to the beginning of the turn so it lands near the barrel. You can also plant the Manners Minder out on the other side of the barrel for her to drive to.
>>I’ll go back to those exercises from the last session, appreciate you sending those links. Looks like I missed some important stuff. I blame Christmas. 🙂>>
Things got busy in December!!
>>If I leave her on a sit stay, and she downs, should I just accept the fact that she’d rather have a start line down and work with that instead?>>
I like to have a start line stay where the dog is comfy and I am not worried about if they move or vulture. So… I often let my dogs choose their position. For 2 of them, I literally say ‘stay’ and walk away LOL!!! As long as they don’t move their feet, I am happy! And it sounds like she is more comfortable in a down, which is normal for BCs 🙂 and also great because if she is comfy, she will be less aroused and less likely to break the stay.
>> I’ve been re-setting her in a sit, but then she does that vulture thing, and she seems happier in a down…. >>
As a good Border Collie, the down is pretty automatic for her. And she might not even realize that she is in a down or that she is doing the vulture thing, it is all almost a reflex for her. So rather than spend time resetting or trying to get her head up, you can ask her to do the down 🙂 Just start her a little further away so she has room to stand up when you release her.
>>I would just like her to look a little happer.
She is a Border Collie with a strong drive to work work work… my guess is that she is going to look like world peace depends on the release from the start line LOL!!!! As long as you are not fighting with her and she is not stressed, she can have a really intense look and it is all good. BCs are, um, different LOL!!!!!
>> 🙂 I’m used to looking back at the start line at my beautiful Terv….connecting and releasing. Georgie’s beautiful, too, of course, but not so much when she’s crouchy. But sure, sure, it’s not all about looks>>
Tervs are naturally more upright and less stalky. So you can go with Georgie’s natural BorderCollie-ness and it will all be great!
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