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Good morning!
Turn aways are looking good! She is reading everything perfectly! The 2nd rep and 2nd-to-last rep were lap turns. They seemed natural in the moment and she read them perfectly (not sure if they were what you planned LOL!) The 1st, 3rd, 4th reps and all the reps after that were all tandems which looked great – we are seeing these more on course lately than we are seeing the lap turns, so definitely keep emphasizing these.
You can spread the wings out to give yourself more running room, which should make the tandems feel even easier.
Great job!!
TracyGood morning!
Keep me posted about what you think of Ninja Weaves!
The grid went really well – she was definitely making adjustments as the 3rd jump moved in and out!
I am glad you were rewarding the sit – I like it better than the down, for grids. For a regular stay on sequences, when she is 15 feet or so from jump 1? You can totally use a down or let her pick the position, but the down on grids makes the initial take-off really challenging.
Because she leans a bit in her sit (it is fine, she is allowed to lean :)) you can start her a tiny bit further back from 1 like you did at 1:03 and on the last rep, to let her organize that first step-in.It was hard to see the reinforcement here – was it stationary? She looked like she was spending quality time preparing to slow down and stop, so if the reward was stationary you can change that to the moving target reward. And if the reward was moving, you can move it faster by jogging/slow running on the release – that also challenges her organization when thing are more stimulating 🙂
What was the distance between 2 and 3 when the jump were at their furthest apart? It looks like the 3rd jump can go up 2 inches at least when it is out there, to add some more challenge too 🙂
The handling is going well too! I am especially excited about how well she is able to switch from line focus to handler focus to line focus…. That is awesome!!!
On the threadle/turn away for the wing after the tunnel, you can help her out more by exaggerating the hand motions so there is more of a “hey pay attention to my hands!” Then the hands can flip her away as well. That will be especially useful on the very first reps. After she saw it a couple of times, she didn’t need as much help so the first rep or two on each side can be extra helpy 🙂
Great job getting her to the wing on the other side of the tunnel – it is NOT easy especially after the threadle/turn away!!!
Looking at timing: she is speedy and that is GREAT and she is also relentless, meaning she is not going to slow down to help you out 🙂 That it all great 🙂 So, you can now get the cues in earlier and earlier. 2 ideas for you:
You can be earlier on soft turn verbals and handling, being sure she sees you peeling away and hears the verbal when she is about 6 feet from the tunnel entry. Your right verbal and physical cues at :38 and 1:28 were late so she was wide. Compare to the Left physical and verbals at :54 and 1:13 which were well-timed and she had really good turns!
This is a good setup for practicing the quickness of the verbals she will need on course. One way to get quicker with the verbals is to watch her head: when her head turns to the next correct line, you switch to the next verbals. On the rep from 1:31 to 1:39, you were a beat behind each verbal (there was a LOT to spit out there LOL!!) but she got it 🙂
So looking at that sequence, you can watch her head: when she turns towards you a little on the MOOOOOOS on the tunnel exit, switch to the threadle handling and verbal. This might be one step out of the tunnel. Then when she turns her head to the correct side of the wing, switch to the handling/verbal for the wing on the other side of the tunnel. When she looks at the wing, switch to the tunnel threadle verbal.
It will feel sooooo early but it will be correct and hold (eventually) feel easier. And also, it will have the nice by-product of you will be super connected!
Getting the tunnel threadle on the other side was a lot harder:
I think bye bye bye is the wrap verbal for the wing on the other side of the tunnel? Then you were calling her name but I don’t think that is a tunnel threadle verbal because you were also using it as a “look at me” verbal before the threadle on the wing. So you can use the wrap verbal then the tunnel threadle verbal (in slower motion on the other side for now, like at 2:25 you can be walking through it because it is really hard!)It is also possible that the reps at the end were not as perfect because her brain was tired 🙂 So next time you tackle this, you can start on that side and see how it goes!
Great job on these, she looks amazing!!!
One thing start considering is finding some baby dog NFC stuff over the summer – I have a bunch of ideas for that if you are interested!
Tracy
Good morning!
>>I’ve been having a hard time sending her to an obstacle from a stationary position (but no problem with lead outs or wrapping a cone beforehand) because she gets fixated on my hands. I’m going to focus on cleaning that up, doing as you advise with the clear verbal and step to the wing.>>
It is an impulse control skill too – asking her is she can go past the reward and your hands and your decel to do a cued behavior, even when she knows she is coming back to you. And if she really struggles, you can have an empty hand sending and the reward in the other hand. I like to stay really close to the cone while I am stationary for a while so the pup can send past my with the toy in it. And adding a “you can have the toy now” marker really helps. I added “bite!” For the toy and ‘snacks’ for the treats, so the dogs learned to ignore the hand and the toy and the treat til I said the marker.
Looking at the videos:
The moving target work went really well! The flatwork was really good: yes, it introduced the concept but also she got to practice holding her stay when things were REALLY EXCITING 😁 She was great!
And the set point went really well too – she was incredibly consistent with good form, even though she was *definitely* excited 🙂 She was in a state that is probably similar to what she will be feeling at a start line in a trial, and that is GREAT!! Good girl!
She was more powerful when you were further ahead, because she was not preparing to stop while also preparing to jump #2. Since she has strong stays, you can lead out even further.
Continue to be super clear on your releases – when you were less clear like at 1:37-1:39 (you didn’t connect, then connected, then started to run), he got a little twitchy ad came forward on her front feet. So, since she is working in a really optimal state of arousal (which is also a high state 😁 ) you will want to be super smooth like you were at 1:19, for example.
Her best starting positions where when she was slightly further back from the jump, so her nose doesn’t go past the bar, like at 1:53. Those were great!
Because she is 18 months (19 months now?) and doing so well, you can add some more challenge to this: keep the distance the same, but raise the height of bar 2. It was at 8” here, so you can start the next session at 10” and if that goes well for 2 or 3 reps, you can try it at 12”. Let me know how she does!
On the tunnel exit video:
Her commitment looks lovely! And she is super responsive to handling, so that allows us to look at the timing:For the GO verbals, you can have both the verbal cue and the acceleration happening when she is 4 or 5 feet before the tunnel entry, to get her going really straight. The Go to the wing after the tunnel was the hardest part (that wing is far away!). You were a tiny bit late at first, like at 1:06 – the go physical cue of acceleration and verbal were late (she was already entering the tunnel) so she turned a bit into you on the tunnel exit. At 1:20 and 1:35, the physical cue of acceleration was great, easily seen before she entered! And lots of good distance! The Go verbal was a little late on those but the timing of the physical cue plus your position really helped – she exited straighter plus you were right there to help push her out to the wing.
At 1:52 and 2:11 – perfect physical cue timing AND Go verbal timing. She was much straighter on the exit of the tunnel! Finding the wing is a little hard but it is definitely easier to see since you were there to help AND you cued a straight exit on the tunnel.Looking at the turns – well done with making the verbals sound different! Different from the GO, and also different from the jump and tunnel turns. So nice!!!
When you were decelerated and giving the cues, he was turning really well in both directions. As with the GO verbals, try to match the physical cue with the timing of the verbal cue – it is easiest to see this when she is coming towards the camera on a right turn exit:
At :41 and :51, for example: the timing of the right verbal was good. Your physical cue was acceleration straight forward, which looked like the go cue, so she was wider on the tunnel exit. You can also see that at 1:23 and 1:40. So, to cue the turn sooner – keep the verbal timing of the right verbal but also let her see you peeling away to the wing. Because she is already very speedy, you won’t have time to decel, so you can be accelerating but showing a lateral line towards the wing before she enters the tunnel. That should help her set up a perfect turn and keep you way ahead so you can meet her at the wing 🙂
Great job here! Let the know what you think!
TracyHi!
This went really well!!! She was very successful on the variety of elements!The visual of the a-frame was indeed hard on the first rep! But she figured it out nicely after that.
As you give the push cue, you had great connection but you probably don’t need to drop your shoulder as far back – you can have your fingers pointing to her nose 😉 If your shoulder is too far back, then it might look like a threadle cue.
Speaking of threadles – the threadle/front side balance reps looked easy for her, no problem at all. Nice!!
She also did really well with the countermotion – both in isolation and when you added it to the backside! Yay!!! Showing her the exaggerated look at and point at the landing spot really helped her commit as you moved forward.
And great job with the reward placement!!!
Only one suggestion, because of the reward placement: keep the bar nice and low so she has an easy time landing when the reward is dropped in. The bar was a little elevated here, which was caused her to have to jam herself up a bit in order to stop for the reward.
Great job here! Let me know what you think!
TracyReally nice session here too – the clicks for the back and forth looked great and the 2 no-click moments were legit no-click moments. Your click was early on the very last rep, it looked like you clicked her front feet there 🙂 But everything else looked great!
One thing you can do is elevate the mat a bit, attaching it to something, to continue to isolate the back feet as you add more speed. Kind of like this:
But this video was from the first session with the mat, you can be moving more like what you did on your video here. (The smaller target in the 2nd half was just a collection game for the back feet, useful for flyball).
Great job! Let me know what you think!
TracyHi!
Super nice session here!>Here is the Accordion Grid that Miss Prē was SO tired for at the end of her private Live Thursday nite – LOL!>>
Yes! Poor girl worked her butt off – no classmates to help give her a rest LOL!!!
>>She did a serious adjust to get the BOUNCE at 11’, but then she settled in nicely to add a stride at 14’>>Yes – that 11 foot distance was NOT comfy for her right now – and it was not just because it was surprising the first time, because she did the same the 2nd time she saw it 🙂 That is fine, you can replace 11 feet with 12 feet and see if that is less weird for her. The one stride looked lovely!! And so did the bounces.
I couldn’t quite see the reward, so if you were not dragging it, then you can start dragging it. If you were dragging it and walking, you can go to dragging it and jogging (or running :))
Nice work!
TracyHi!
>>Of course right before the camera was on she was literally lying on top of this waiting for me and then had a hard time getting all four feet on during filming lol.
Ha! That is hilarious!!!
She is a little pat 6 months old, so 2 things are happening:
– She is still growing so her back feet/legs are basically in a new place every day 🙂
– She is entering adolescence, which is a time of life not known for good coordination or brain-body communication in dogs LOL!!
So, keep making things easy and fun for now – no need for the plank to be high, you can keep it really low til she is a bit closer to full grown. That way her view of planks are that they are super easy 🙂>> She just didn’t know where her rear end.
She did indeed have a few hind end questions – getting lower later in he session on the smaller plank totally helped her. And if you have 2 planks you can put side by side to make a wider playing field, that will help too!
You will see sessions where she is fully confident and perfectly knowledgeable about how to use her hind end… and then other days it will be like she has never seen a plank in her life LOL!! That is completely normal adolescent behavior, so when that happens, just leave it be and go do something else (and try the planks again a few days after that).
Great job!
TracyHi!
>>When doing the counter motion should I use the verbal for a front-side wrap like digdig
You can use it if you like, but you won’t need it when we add the countermotion to the backsides. When we are using the countermotion in other contexts, then yes you can totally use it.
>>and drop the toy on the take-off side while I am running forward?
Try to get the toy to land on the landing spot, to emphasize going over the jump rather than chasing you 🙂
Tracy
Hi!
He is reading the blinds really well – so we just need to figure out how to give you a better head start. Your mechanics when you were ahead were perfect when you did the blind (well done, that is the hardest part!)>>I tried to throw a toy at the start, so I could get ahead of him. But, he liked it better than his tug toy.>>
That was clever and worked well, with him bringing the toy back too! But yes, I agree with your observation that he didn’t seem to realize that you wanted him to drop the toy in his mouth to grab the tug toy after the blind.
By the end of the video, he had figured out the game and was very fast doing catching up to you which made one of the blinds late. If you think that he will be able to eat a low value treat then chase you and play with the toy, you can use a treat in the bowl as a target: let him see you put the treat in a bowl, then send him to it – and as he gets the cookie, you can run away and do the blind when he starts chasing you.
If he struggles to go back and forth from the food to the toy, no worries – you had great mechanics with the connection and the toy here, so you can put the game away until we add the prop to it 🙂 The blinds are looking strong!
Nice work 🙂 Let me know what you think!
TracyPost up a video! My guess is that you are waiting too long to throw the treat for her age, so she shifts her weight entirely back and end up in a it or down. Try to toss the treat for just one or two steps, before she stops moving. And we can also get her doing some back foot targeting to give her a ‘destination’.
T
Hi!
Toy races looked great! Her joy with the toy when she won the first race was adorable! And she brought the toy back – SUPER!!!I think working it with a toy (or two toys, to help her bring back the first toy) is better than trying to incorporate food. She was lovely with the toy!
>>But she still seemed to drive harder to the toy afterward.>>
Yes, that was hilarious – even though she only lost a little on the 2nd rep, she definitely found a higher gear of speed on the 3rd rep and left you in the dust LOL!! Good girlie!
>>I didn’t realize til I watch this that I pushed her back SO Hard. After this she was leery of me reaching for her and I didn’t know why.>>
Ah yes, she was not a huge fan of that but she still played really nicely! You don’t need to push her back… you can just keep throwing the toy further and further and see how far ahead of you she can get.
Great job on all of these!
TracyHi!
>>Definitely having trouble with my mechanics today.
That is why we start with relatively simple games – to work the mechanics because those are really hard! And as an owner of big dogs and small dogs… I always found mechanics to be harder with the smalls! You are doing great!
>>I forgot to deliver the treats on the plank instead from my hand so she’s not looking at me.

. Even though she fell off, she got right back on and seemed happy to do so.>>Yes – she definitely forgot that she is a bit bigger and doesn’t fit as early on the plank LOL!! But also yes, she was not concerned about it. Putting the treats on the plank will help, and also move more slowly for now when you walk back and forth. I think she was rushing a little to catch up to you and that is why she lost her balance.
>>BTW. Thank you for your patience with me. I know I’m repeating mistakes and you have to tell me the same thing more than once. Working on it.>>
You are doing just fine with the mechanics!! Don’t beat yourself up! She is happy, she is enjoying her training, her skills are coming along beautifully, and your mechanics are very strong! Yes, there is a blooper here and there but that is part of the fun of puppy training 🙂
Nice work!
TracyHi!
>>I can see watching the vids what you’re talking about with her body. She’s twice as big and heavy now, so that changes the whole ball game.
Yes! She changes daily 🙂 so we need to partially see playing these games to help her sort out her body, and also remember that we are kind of starting over each time she ha a growth spurt (and when she enters adolescence) because her brain will keep re-wiring the pathways for her biomechanics. Being bigger and heavier totally changes how the board moves under her, and changes her center of gravity.
This was a good session! Leave the set up like this, and use lots of super high value rewards. Revisit it maybe once or twice a week and make it silly fun like you did here – no rush to make it harder 🙂
>>Also. I’m now setting up the props as much as possible first. Then starting tug outside the room and tugging her into the room to try and make the transitions quicker. It worked pretty well here>>
Ooooh that is clever!!!!! I am going to steal that concept and call it the Mochi Move 🙂 And if she wants to, you can see if she will tug on the setup but she might need a bigger playing field to be able to shift her weight back.
Great job!
TracyHi!
Wow, what a journey to figure out what is happening with Ronin!! Poor little guy. I am sure the vets checked the patellas… but next time you see the vet, ask them to get Ronin on his side and re-check his patellas. What you describe is pretty much exactly what happened with my Hot Sauce, but now add 6 more months of issues until we figured out it was just her patella. It took 9 months to figure it out, and she was over 2 years old when they found it. All fixed now, she feels great!
The vet who found it said that the strong little terrier-types can tighten up and the patellas won’t move during a normal exam when they are standing, but you can find it easily when they are on their side or the weight is loaded off the leg. Hot Sauce was examined by more than one Board Certified Ortho Vet and they didn’t find it. I mention it for two reasons – the little weird injuries in a young dog can be related to patellas, according to all the sports vets. And, if nothing else, it will rule it out so you don’t spend more time going down the wrong rabbit hole fi the patella is involved.
Back to Reacher and his backing up 🙂
He definitely is getting the idea!! Yay! Bearing in mind that baby dogs are not all that coordinated, he was really strong with ‘finding’ the target with his rear feet.
One idea for you:
Start each session with his back feet already on the foot target, and you very close to it (you can lure him onto it) and do a couple of warm up reps with him stepping off forward, then stepping back onto it. Then you can slide yourself a bit further away each time. That can get the idea into his head right away and then he can offer with precision more easily. – which makes adding the verbal very easy too!But overall, this was very strong!! He will be able to add more and more distance pretty quickly 🙂 No worries about the markers – it was mainly hand-delivered cookies and a “yes” or “yay” is perfect for that!
Great job!
TracyHi!
He did great with his wing wraps!! He seemed to really like it!
I think he is a righty – all of the right turns were way for him, he went out around the upright easily. The left turns were harder, and he needed you to be closer to her; jump start the behavior. So for now stick nice and close on the left turns (when he is going from your right to your left) and you can step back a bit for the right turns.Wow, he definitely loves goating all around on the mini teeter LOL!!! You can try tossing the reward off the end so he doesn’t stop – he was kinda stopping but going sideway and relying on your position at the end, so letting him run through for now with a cookie toss s great to keep him going straight. Then when you get to the real teeter, you can add in a target to get the end position you want. I love his confidence!
The blinds looked great and he LOVES the frisbee! You can do the blind even sooner, when he is maybe 2 steps towards you so he sees the new side sooner.
Watch the last rep – note how his little legs are trying to run as the daddy is holding him and putting him down LOL! And listen to his adorable sounds. SO CUTE!!!!
If you have enough room, you can try doing 2 blinds: do the first blind immediately as he start moving, then the 2nd blind when he is halfway to you.>>Ronin is on the injured list
What happened to Ronin? Poor guy! Hope he feels better soon!!!!!
Great job here!
Tracy
