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Course 1 ran pretty well! A couple of ideas:
2-3 is a turn away to get 3, so get further up the line to connect to tunnel exit so she sees it before she exits the tunnel. That will smooth out the line!Nice layering while she is weaving! Since the weaves look so good, don’t wait for her – drive to the backside more like what you did at 1:36. Also,
Being further away from the backside will help to get up the line 10-11. That backside needs to be super independent to smooth out the 10-11 line, which means you need to send to it from as far away as possible and run to it as soon as you think she is heading to the backside.You were a bit decelerated on the send to 13 at :33 so she didn’t do the layering. On this course, you can totally run closer to all the lines to set the layering (like run closer to 12 s she propels away to 13-14.
Course 2 –
>>It seemed like all our holes were uncovered in one course. How’d you do that? >> Magic! LOL!
The only thing on this course in the video was 1-2-3, unless YouTube is hiding the rest?
As you noted, you were pushing in to 3 too much. Treat it like. Backside circle wrap: let he see the entry wing and point your feet straight, and I think she will get it!
>>Fast forward to getting her to turn out of the weaves correctly. She kept turning to her left and cutting back thru.>>
How did you handle it? It didn’t see it on the video. Rear cross? If so, you might need to run further down the weaves so she sees where you are. Let me know !Nice work here 🙂 Tracy
Hi!
Watching both of these, I think a couple of things were happening here:
– definitely she doesn’t need to run these hard courses at 24. It is such a hard jump height and you are learning new handling and not perfect with timing or connection, so it makes it even harder for her. Rebuild her confidence by jumping 16 for a while! I would trial her at 20 so she can feel good about it too, especially on the harder courses.– also, be very connected with tons o eye contact 🙂 No arm flinging or pointing 🙂 That will help!
– to keep her in the game and wanting to run even if you are late or disconnected, be sure that you reward All.The.Things. I think she might have been taking the blame for some of the errors and that is why she was a bit tentative. All errors are human errors, so break things down and reward reward reward 🙂
– question about her weaves: she seemed tentative and careful in the weaves. Is that normal for her? If not, ry to get her checked out to make sure she is not sore or in pain anywhere. Keep me posted don that!
So for the next session, lower the bars, break down the sections (walk the course first and record your walk through!) and reward reward reward 🙂
Let me know how it goes!
TracyHi!
I think you were seeing a couple of things at play here:
Tight spacing, high bars, late handling, and possibly heat too.>>I think I stayed connected
Well…. Not as much as you might have thought LOL! Seeing her and being connected are different. You were seeing her but not really connected in a lot of spots
>>I know the bars are high but I didn’t ask her to do it too much and I don’t know how to get her to keep her feet up>>
Yes, 24” is a brutal jump height and I wish the AKC would get rid of it! To clear these bars she needs more distance between then (she had to take little tiny strides here) and needs a conditioning program specific to jumping along with regular rest periods where she does not jump 24.
So definitely spread things out so there is more like 20 feet between jumps, so she can get big strides going 0 and also lower the bars – she doesn’t need to jump 24 in practice. And if something goes wrong, either keep going or reward her. Issue it was a handler error (because it was :)) It looks like she did not get a lot of reward here (lots of times you stopped and didn’t reward) which is very deflating with the high bars and tight spacing (and some late/disconnected cues).
So a couple of thing that will help in terms of the handling:
During layering, try to do a very connected send (arm back, looking at her eyes) to send her to the layering. When you got in a bit past the layer obstacle then pulled back, she was confused and didn’t get the line or keep the bar up. And if you don’t connect, your shoulders will turn and pull her off the layering, so be super connected.On the sends, like at 3 on the last sequence here, make more eye contact and point forward less. She was struggling to find 3 because you were pointing forward and didn’t have side info. And on the backside wrap, you were try gin to help her come over the bar but you were standing in her warm so she had no room to jump with you on the landing spot – keep moving through!
So overall – spread it out, lower the bars, keep your arms down & eyes on her, and keep rewarding whether it is right or wrong as you sort out the handling 🙂
Nice work Let me know what you think!
TracyHi!
Lots of great work in this session!
The Walk through looked really connected and the verbals were strong! You can also add in deceleration rehearsal on the really tight turns like the very end of this course. On that ending line, you had 14 as a jump line in your mind when it is a tunnel 🙂 The tunnel makes it easier, but you did a great job with the harder jump line!The opening looked fabulous on the first run! You had a very strong send to 3 at :40. Yay! You were not as strong at 1:38 or 1:47 (you were turning too soon so it was pulling her off). In those moments, you can reset her with a cookie so it is easier to get her back on her line; otherwise she bops around in front of you and it is hard to re-start.
She took off too early for 5 at :42, so maybe a brake arm for that soft turn? But she didn’t repeat the mistake on any other rep, so nowworries.
For the backside of 9 at :51 – backside independence is still a new skill for her, so you can run more to the center of the bar (a little closer to the backside entry wing than you were) and keep your arm back for longer, exaggerate the cue, and don’t relax your arm til she is totally heading to the backside.
A different approach to getting the 11 jump after the tunnel: rather than bind after the backside, you can keep her on your right and run the other side of the tunnel, then push her to the jump and rear cross it! The threadle wrap that you added later in the video worked well too, you easily got up the next line to get 11!
The spin helped 11-12 a lot, that looked really good.
O the ending – the decel from 14-15 will really help set you up to be able to get a tighter wrap on 15. You were blasting to it so she as jumping long – – you had a little decel at the very end (4:14) and she was such tighter there! And maintain connection all the way to the end – when you stayed connected, she took that last jump perfectly. When you released connection at 3:18 by looking forward, she didn’t take the last jump. (Also loved the layering of the tunnel while she was weaving, that was AWESOME!!!)
Great job here – let me know what you think!
TracyHi!
This was definitely interesting! I mean, the quality of the turn to the right (slice) was MUCH higher than the quality of the turn to the left which was good-not-great. Is the still set up? can you walk the the distance from the landing of 1 to the entry of the tunnel?I think we are in ‘data collection’ mode – it is true that wraps can be faster in some situations, so we need to map out when. My guess is it is side preference plus distance, with distance as a breaking point. And data collection will help us know exactly where the breaking point it – 3 feet? 5 feet? 8 feet? Just how much shorter does the distance need to be to get the wrap worthwhile?
Also, if you have the itch to do it – mirror this and do it with the wrap being to the right and the slice to the left 🙂 Data time!
Let me know what you think!
TracyHi! All of these were so fun to watch!!!!! I hope you had as much fun running these as they were to watch 🙂 He REALLY seems to like this ‘more running’ and ‘chase me’ approach – he was on fire and also had great turns. Yay!
Video 1 – very nice session here~ super fun to see you running it and get so many good lines & turns!
The opening looked great with the backside wraps on 2 – nice turns with a ton of power and speed too.
Great job with the middle section – I love the way he was finding the #8 jump after the tunnel. After all that acceleration, he made a great turn on the tunnel exit and found the threadle perfectly! And nice job on the line to the weaves – he thought about the tunnel off course but came back to get the wrap and you did a great job rewarding him. You’re going to be so bored of hearing me say “nice! Great!” LOL!Video 2- tight turns reps: REALY strong reps here. He was setting up his own turns which is what we want him to do.
1st one was great.
2nd one at :16 – you added a little extra threadle or something before the turn jump, which made the turn cues late (he was already over the jump when you started) so he picked up the extra jump (was still a good turn!).Much better at :30 and :40. Super!!!Video 3- weaves looked really good – you did a great job adding motion and getting him more stimulated with the jump-tunnel loop before it. He did a great job decelerating into the weaves, even when he came flying down the line from the tunnel! So the next challenge is to get him stimulated and then get yourself ahead so he hits the weave entry behind you 🙂
Teeter looked fabulous! I think he liked this ramped up version of it (note the great turn on the jump before the tunnel). His teeter performances at 1:13 and 1:25 and the last one looked pretty perfect! The rep at 1:37 was a little “forward” but still a great try.
Video 4: Very fun work session on this course!!!
He read the opening 1-2-3-4 beautifully.
On the 5 jump: You decelerated at :22 and he turned and didn’t take the next jump – hooray! Great error 🙂
You accelerated at :30 and he got it. Yay!For the 8 jump after the tunnel: it is a lead change away from you, so definitely an out or something to cue it – both the verbal cue and the clear indication to it. You used a left and he got it but that was also supported by clear handling and motion to it like at :51 and later on at 2:05. When you didn’t support it at the beginning or later on at 1:52, he ran past it, so the physical support and motion towards it really helped.
On the 10-11-12 line to the weaves – it was hard to tell if you wanted the wrap or slice there your shoulders were saying slice (turning to the bar) but your feet were saying wrap (facing forward the whole time. The wraps looked good!! But then at 2:11. It definitely looked like a slice cue based in your shoulders (bit not your feet :)) and it looks like at 2:19 you definitely wanted the slice. So for the slice, use your shoulders by turning them to the bar like you did, and also turn you feet to the bar. If you wanted the wrap, keep your feet forward and don’t turn your shoulders to the jump: your eyes can follow his line but your shoulders don’t need to turn. (I think the slice is the better option here :))
The ending was amazing, fast and accurate! Well done!
Great job on all of these. Let me know what you think!
TracyGood morning!
>>Dora makes the weave entry but then pops out later. If I put a space in between the two sets of 6 poles at class, she can do them. Should I do this and keep making the space smaller?
Yes – that is great! First make sure she can do 6 very reliably, then reward. Then 6 + 6 with a good amount of distance between. Then eventually make them closer. She is young enough that there is no rush, you can let her mind & body mature before finishing the weave process.
On the teeter –
>>instances where I early released her, as opposed to quick release. Then when I realized it, I went back and made her hold the end longer. I think she is creeping to the end because she is unsure of what I want given that I did not maintain my 2on2off criteria.
I agree, the criteria changed (quick/early releases) so he didn’t know what to do, then got told she was wrong when she did what had just been acceptable. The creeping is a stress response to the lack of clarity so the fix is to be 1000% clear and consistent (until the national finals, then you can quick release :))
>>What should I be doing to build it back up to where she goes right into the 2on2 off?
I suggest putting the target back out on the ground, to help give her the focal point to drive into 2o2o. And either reward the correct performance or praise for 2 seconds then release each time, so you don’t accidentally make the criteria unclear.
Her teeter looks great, so the target will help get the 2o2o then you can fade it out again.
Let me know how it goes!
TracyHi!
She did well with the plankrobatics! No problem jumping on, balancing, and going back and forth. She was less comfortable going to the end without you on the plankrobatics setup, so feel free to go all the way to the end with her, back-and-forth for both of you 🙂 the new teach it is going to be helpful!! Would go back to the start with it on the mountain climbers, do a session where it really doesn’t move at all til she is running to the end. Then you can start adding tip – that will help her work through the hesitation and go directly to the end of the board.
The zig zags looked great! The jumps were set up perfectly – just hard enough that she had to jump properly, not too hard and not too easy. Yay! Having the MM out there helped with a good focal point. For the next session, warm up with a rep or two like this then make it a tiny bit harder by flattening the line of jumps by maybe an inch.
The wingin’ it looked great!!! I agree, she was fast AND accurate, Fun! The lap turns were spot on, lovely!
The tandem turns were kind of a lap turn /tandem turn combo 🙂 you were rotating a little towards her to get her to turn – that is more lao turn-ish. The tandem should have you facing forward the whole time, like what you did at :32 without the speed. You can work it without a lot of speed to get it going – be moving forward, but you can pull away and give her more room to get between you and the wing, kind of like a threadle, then flip her back to the wing.>>How long will we have to submit videos?
We will go til September 15th, I think that gives folks time to catch up and have fun 🙂
Great job!
TracyHi!
>>>>I do think it would be easier if you had more distance between the 2 jumps, they look very close together LOL!! That means she makes a very early decision.<< I think it was about 17′ for the spacing, so put is more to 20-21′ I am thinking. Yes, 21 feet will be better for sure. >>OK, more intense connection and arm back farther but doesn’t arm back farther to some extent mean farther across the path too before she is taking off for the jump before?
Do you mean your position being further across? I thought you were pretty far across! No need to be further.
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She is not, because you are going to be laterally away from her when you release her to take jump 1 🙂 You will easily be there ahead of her 🙂

>>One other question – when I am trying to teach the wrappy RC’s I will use my dog side hand like I was. Should I just drop that? I am starting to wonder it that isn’t making it look too much like I am possibly going to start the pivot for a wrap which might be why it is confusing for her at times.>>I use hand cues on RCs when it is a weird RC that is almost a turn on the flat. But if you want to use the hands as ‘brake’ hands for the tight RCs, that can work too! It should not looks like the FC wraps because the rest of the cues are so different.
On the video
The FC reps were good! When you go to the spin, you can use less arm across your body on the FC element, because taking that out will make the spin faster. You didn’t really use a lot of dog-side arm across the body on the FCs, so it should be easy to take out for the spins.And also, reconnecting with that dog-side arm back further will get rid of her thinking about coming in to the wrong side because she will see the new connection more clearly. At :38, you were on time but your left arm was forward and used in the connection so she didn’t really see your eyes – keep that left arm behind you. The arm was behind you at :48 and she did much better reading the line!
On the 2nd video:
>>I think I was later starting the blind on that side also.Yes, the BCs are a little late and too much dog side arm on the sending – takes a long time to bring that arm back in. When you kept your arms in tight like on the spins on the line wing, she was quick to see the new side and the turns.
>>Only significant issue was when she started cutting inside the first wing on the right turn side when I went to repeat the spin on that side.>>
That was handling that was a bit too early and disconnected at :54 and the rep after it. So keep your arms in and stay connected (your arms got really high. Those are rewardable reps, she was not being naughty, she just wasn’t sure of where to be.
:>>She was wider turning on the left turn side. I think I was later starting the blind on that side also.
Yes, on the other side the first couple were really late like at 1:19 when you reconnected when she was halfway between the 2 wings so she was pretty wide 🙂 But then your timing got earlier and that really helped!! One other thing on that side was that you were really lateral so that doesn’t really get tight turns – try to be closer to the wings to show the tightness of the turns.
Nice work here!!! Let me know what you think!
TracySince we don’t want him jumping off, don’t move as far past the board – then go back and give him another cookie for waiting for you 🙂 And then another and another! Then he can turn around with permission and come down and then you can have him come off the side (or pick him up, unless he doesn’t like that). Giving him extra treats for staying there will also help him with his end position 🙂
TracyHi there!
These are also going well! I only have little details to suggest:
On the 2 jump serps, be sure to walk through the line as if you are coming from a previous jump (the serp would be jump 2), more like what you did at 1:14. And be moving the whole time, so it is a true serp in motion 🙂He read the 3 jumps really well! You did them 2 different ways, both were really good 🙂 Only one suggestion – you don’t need to swing your arm in out and: you can send him to the first jump, then just leave your arm in serp position, locked back. It is not the arm swing that cues the line (it is maintaining shoulder position) so swinging the arm can muddy the waters.
I think he is ready to see the serp games with the tunnel – the jumps are angled on those, because there is so much more speed. Great job here!!
TracyHi!
One jump serps are looking really good on both sides! He was reading them well! You can add in looking at the landing side when you add more motion, which is definitely the next step:
Try to keep moving the whole time, releasing when you get to the serp spot but without stopping.On the 2nd side, remember to pay attention to mechanics – be sure to walk all the way through the serp line as if coming for a previous jump, rather than go around to the other side of the jump. And yes, don’t do the spin LOL! But he said well. Onwards to the 2 and 3 jump games!
TracyHi! Very nice session here!!
>>At 0:54 & 0:59, thought wwere her JP hits.
Totally agree – I jotted those 2 down in my notes and then saw you mentioned them already LOL! Those were great!
>> As usual, it will take my muscle memory time to settle in on clicking at the moment, she puts down the 2nd rf into the mat off the edge.
yes – that last hit right n the edge is harder to see for sure! You can try elevating the mat. I had it elevated a lot when I started – I used an aerobic step for a while, so I could easily see it and the dogs could think about lifting up and putting their back feet on it, very specifically 🙂
Great job here!! With RDW work, we repeat these sessions a lot so nothing new to add, just keep looking for the 2 back feels 🙂Tracy
Hi!
For UKI at a normal trial, the NFC time is usually whatever standard course time is… but for some reason UKI will be changing that to 45 seconds. For Games, we usually get whatever course time is for those too, so ti would be the opening plus closing in Gamblers (something like 25 plus 14 seconds) and whatever the snooker max time is.>>1 of which is a “Cup” – West Coast Cup and the other is an “Open” – West Coast Open.>>
Yes, the classes at those are sometimes all one level (sometimes there are titling classes too) but these 2 events appear to NOT have titling classes. There is a movement towards NOT allowing NFC at the Cups and Classics, and it is not allowed at the US Open so I checked the NFC info for these events. The Cup (this weekend) *does* allow NFC but it will take you out of the running for the overall top dog (pretty sure you are not going for that this weekend anyway :)) And it looks like NFC is NOT allowed in any class at the West Coast Open, so you might want to reconsider the entry fee (it is expensive!).
Let me know if this makes sense 🙂
Tracy
