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  • in reply to: Carol with Stark #32003
    Tracy Sklenar
    Keymaster

    Good morning!

    >>I wanted to pick your brain a little more during tonight’s zoom session about seeps before I went out and practiced them.

    Hopefully the brain-picking was helpful πŸ™‚ My demo unicorn was exhausted LOL!

    This setup gives us some good ideas for future sessions!! I agree, th eleft turns are easier than the right turns, but no worries.
    Overall, he was strong on these and so on a bigger course with ‘normal’ distances and real handling… he is going to do a GREAT job! Add some more arousal to the training now – get him tugging more before each rep. You are doing a great job with the placement, marker, hands…so many things but you are getting it all done πŸ™‚ I like how at :25 for example you were able to just run, arms pumping, he didn’t jump or bark. YAY!

    Looking at the left turns – his mechanics on the soft turns and the wraps both look really good! He had an error on the first wrap cue after having done all of the soft turns – so alternate soft/wrap more frequently so he doesn’t get locked into one and then fail on the first rep of the other. After that one error, the rest of the reps went really well to the left!

    He had a lot more trouble with the right turns, starting with a creative twist to offer a backside threadle wrap at :41 LOL! My guess is he was thinking of all the left turn rewards plus left is his stronger side, so you need to either mix up left and right sides more frequently within the session (do one or two before changing side) or do them in separate sessions – and definitely start with the right turns so he doesn’t get locked into the left turns.

    And, like with the left side, after a bunch of soft rights, he first right wrap was incorrect. But the difference is that he didn’t say “oops, fixed it” – he had several more incorrect reps. Since that is harder, you can alternate soft versus wrap more frequently. And because it will take more reps to train it, stay on the wing (not a jump) for this side as you add motion. That way you won’t end up doing 35 jumps with tight turns in one session – all of the concept work can be done with the wing. When he rate of success is over 90%, then the jump can come back in.

    Bear in mind that the turn doesn’t have to be perfect before switching to the other one – if the wrap is within criteria (he comes around the wing and doesn’t go to the distraction jump), you can switch to the soft turn within a rep or two, rather than doing multiple wraps in a row. Doing multiple in a row will make the processing harder because he will get too locked into one thing over the other, rather than processing each cue. We are looking for correct turns, they don’t need to be gorgeous πŸ™‚ because they will be gorgeous when we add back real handling πŸ™‚

    Great job! Let me know what you think!
    Tracy

    in reply to: Barb & Enzo #32002
    Tracy Sklenar
    Keymaster

    Good morning! Thank you for the Casper videos, he is charming!!!

    SO MUCH GREAT STUFF on this video!!! His wraps look fabulous!

    I am very happy with the wrap reps with the 2 jumps – he never looked off course and you were not using body language to help him. It looked like you had some motion forward and he was still collecting nicely! Yay!

    Using this 2 jump setup, let’s get him wilder πŸ™‚ Holding his collar instead of a stay can make him wilder, and tugging like mad before each rep can make him wilder too. It is a good way to way to add a bit more challenge!

    And adding the start wing will help too, mainly because it adds his speed and gives you a chance to do some late handling. Try to just keep moving forward until his decision matches your verbal cue for the go or for the wrap – don’t do any decel or rotation until after you see collection if you have cued the wrap. This is to help the verbal override motion, particularly when you are running like mad on the big courses and you are behind him.

    Exit line game – it was fair the he thought the first rep was the jump not the wing, perhaps he didn’t fully understand the setup. But then he did that a couple more times through the session on both sides, after reinforcement for the wing. When you played the game with a jump instead of a wing? Easy peasy, no problems: that is an interesting insight into how the jump is a big, valuable visual versus the wing being little and not as tasty πŸ™‚ So this is a game to keep doing on a wing. His organization for the wraps on the jumps looks really good! So having him ‘find’ the smaller obstacle will actually help more on bigger courses (more on that below). And you can add the start wing in before this to add more motion (and less handling, just running forward, don’t decel or rotate til after you see a decision).

    When you put the exit game from the tunnel -that is some of his best wrap work ever! Hurray!!!!!

    A couple of ideas for you to add challenge:

    Bearing in mind that he migrates to the high-visibility obstacles… totally keep working it in context on the wing πŸ™‚ I want him to be able to find that little wingless jump in the sea of big wings, contacts, etc. as that is definitely something that he will encounter on course. And the same will go for him learning to see a wing jump when it is ‘hidden’ by tunnels, etc. One of the things we do in the last week is put stuff in context with the wing because it is harder than the jump in some ways.

    When you put the verbal into context – don’t be a good handler at all LOL!!! You had some beautfiul handling that matched the verbal an he was stunning. Save that for the trial ring LOL! Let’s take out the handling help so there is motion but no real physical cues to get him to rely more on the verbals. And then in a trial, you’ll have both the verbals AND the handling to get the turns you want. For example, at 2:16, your FC was late: perfect! Be late more, please πŸ™‚ He still got it nicely!

    3:06 and 3:13 and 3:33 were good handling with gorgeous results. So to challenge him to process the verbals in a more realistic situation – on a setup like this, run all the way down to the tunnel then scurry up the line, late and behind him – but get the verbals out as he is in the air over the previous jump. And reward him for making the turn! The rep at 3:41 was a great example of a late cue – he was a good boy to make the wrap as you ran away.

    I think you can generally drop the “Enzo” before the turn verbals because at a trial, when he is moving even faster and in higher arousal, the name call might delay the verbal and delay processing, getting an error or wider turn.

    You had some switch-wraps in there too: At 3:27 – you had a good verbal and late switch physical cue but he got it right – yay!!!! You had a Switch error at 3:52 – the name call drew him to you and then the physical cue looked identical to the wrap cue and you only said switch once… so he wrapped to you. On the next rep at 4:03 had really good switch cue, great handling cue with the verbal – do that in the trial ring, but in training try to split the difference between no physical cue and good physical cue. Give him a tiny one, maybe a little late like at 3:27.

    (I do know that practicing being late on purpose is hard, but it will also solidify on-time handling because you will feel weird when you are late LOL!!)

    An since the challenge to turn is harder when you are deliberately NOT helping – leave the bar low on the turn jump. Lack of physical help might cause him to make last-minute decisions, which can be harder on his body (like at 2:58 where he slipped on landing). Since there are a lot of reps and it is a really demanding physical skill, the distraction jumps will help provide the challenge and he doesn’t need to do a lot on tall bars so we can save his body while working his brain.

    Great job here! Let me know what you think!
    Tracy

    in reply to: Sandi & TΓΊlka #31999
    Tracy Sklenar
    Keymaster

    Keep me posted! She is a great girl and I know we will sort out what she needs πŸ™‚

    Tracy

    in reply to: Carole and Desi #31998
    Tracy Sklenar
    Keymaster

    Good morning!

    I know exactly how fast the weeks move, I am glad you got the training in! Yay! And hooray for Rhonda staying to help video, that is awesome!

    >. I suppose it is their starting position on the side of me that lends itself to taking the wing or jump on the correct side.>>

    Yes – the structure of the game helps us get the behavior so we can name the behavior – no need to test it yet, we just want to get it named πŸ™‚

    Libby did really well here! You can add the distraction jump closer to the wing and the turn jump, to add a little more challenge. The jump should probably be 4 or 5 feet away from the wnig or turn jump. Also, since she really had no trouble with the sot turns, add motion on every rep – no stationary reps. It doesn’t have to be fast motion yet – but no more standing still.

    To help be able to add the motion, I also suggest using line up cookies after each rep to line her up at your side, to make a clean start. She was facing you a lot on the cues here, which made it hard to move and say the verbal more than once. So start a little further back, line her up at your side with a cookie, then start the rep when she is facing the setup (which is more accurate to what will be happening on course). You can add more of your motion (and her motion!) with the start wing now, I think she is ready for it.

    For Desi – she also did well here! As with Libby, use the line up cookies to get her at your side for clean starts so she commits better (she will have more distance to cover if she is closer to you and not nearer the wing) and so you can move more. She was more opinionated about NOT coming back to line up, which makes the structure of the game more difficult. I am confident than a line up cookie can change her opinion of the lining up πŸ™‚ And also since she might be a little more sticky to you on course, a line up cookie adds the challenge for switching from handler focus to line focus (to build even more commitment).

    The cookie line up will make it valuable for her to be at your side so you can get the rep going – she knows that the value is on the wing and jump now and she doesn’t want to come into you.

    She did well with her soft turns, so like Libby – no more standing still πŸ™‚ Start further away so both of you can be moving more, and add in the start wing to get her moving even more.

    For the Go verbals – she definitely needs to learn this and she doesn’t understand it when you are stationary… so, add motion! Let’s do what we need to do to get the behavior, so we can name it and then eventually test it. Getting a Go while stationary is more of a test than a training moment, so we will add motion until she is really confident about finding the Go line.

    You can do this by moving the jumps closer together so it is easier for her to find the 2nd one. And you should keep moving forward on the go reps until you are past the first jump and she is committing to the 2nd one (and then throw the reward like you did here, that was great!)

    For both girls, definitely add motion to all reps so you are moving each time. I recommend saying the verbals more than once, so they can really process them as you are both moving πŸ™‚ They are definitely ready for that! And I think they will like the line up cookies too πŸ™‚ They get a line up cookie regardless of whether the previous rep was correct or not – so you will reward a correct response with a thrown reward and then call her back for a line up cookie. Or, if she is incorrect. just call her back for the line up cookie to start the next rep.

    Great job here! Let me know what you think!
    Tracy

    in reply to: Mary. With Gramm #31997
    Tracy Sklenar
    Keymaster

    Hi! This is the same link as above, is there a different one?

    Tracy

    in reply to: Mary. With Gramm #31996
    Tracy Sklenar
    Keymaster

    Ah! Got it. You probably don’t need it, you can probably use your left/right or wrap directionals on it!

    in reply to: Mary. With Gramm #31995
    Tracy Sklenar
    Keymaster

    Good morning!

    I like that you were adding the leash into your process! Very helpful for a baby dog to learn to deal with the leash as part of the line up.

    Bearing in mind that we don’t want to use just handling here, that we want emphasize the verbal understanding separate from handling – we can smooth out your mechanics to get him understanding even more. The backsides and left/right are so awesome when they don’t require handling!!

    For the backsides -to get the true independence we want, be more precise with the mechanics. You were using the physical cues to sed him to the backside from the wing wrap – for example at :34, you pushed all the way to the backside. So yes, he can do that, but he is relying on your being ahead and stepping to the backside. So for now – don’t use the start wing. Line him up at your side, holding his collar, start the backside word then let g so both of you move forward. The first bunch of reps should be with him lined up facing a very straight direct line to the outer edge of the backside wing – if that goes well without you having to step to the backside, with you just moving forward, then you can move your line up over so he is facing the wing or where the wing meets the bar. Everything stays the same: the line up, the verbals start while you are holding him, you let go and move straight forward and do not handle to the backside – let him find it in on the verbal.

    The other thing that will really help is the reward placement – the reward should be in your hand and dropped on the landing side of the jump right near the bar, rather than delivered from your hand with him coming back to you – we want him to take that jump no matter where you are and without needing to even really see you.

    the second part of the video had the serpentines – I will bug you about the mechanics here too πŸ™‚ For now, only use a wing and a jump and start yourself at the jump, sending to the wing. On these reps, you started with him at the jump and then were too far behind to cue the left or right – so he was confused and the verbals didn’t really match. By starting at the wing of the jump. sending him to the start wing and then being ahead on the serp line, you can use your left and right while also showing the lines you want.

    Nice work here, so now we can isolate the mechanics. Fingers crossed for now more wind and rain!

    in reply to: Christine and Aussie Josie #31994
    Tracy Sklenar
    Keymaster

    Good morning!

    >>I’m going to be creative and use β€œleft” and β€œright”.

    Brilliant! Great minds think alike hahahaha

    >>I do however want to spend some good quality time on my soft turns as those are completely new and something I think could really help us.>>

    I agree – these are the MOST used verbals and yet somehow the least trained. We use left/right a lot more than wraps or backsides, particularly is your primary competition venue is AKC or USDAA.

    But before we skip wraps entirely… you can use her strong foundation in them to get her WILD and BARKING LOL!!! There was a Christine in the Zoom last night that mentioned that her dog also uses verbals on course hahahaha so you can use the strong wrap behavior to get her to ‘listen’ and not just talk πŸ™‚ A tug toy as the jazzing up toy, then holding her collar with a bit of READY READY READY then say the verbal (wrap versus go, using the 2 jumps) and move forward… that will be very helpful in the listen-don’t-talk department LOL!

    She was great here with the left and right.

    >>Is it ok that I’m throwing the treat as a lure on the line before she turns back to me?>>

    yes! But it is not a lure – it is just good solid placement of reinforcement done quickly! A lure would be out there before you even send her to the wing. Good placement happens when you toss it as soon as you see an approximation of the behavior you want. Right before you toss, I recommend a ‘get it’ markers so she doesn’t look at you – get it will tell her to look ahead, helping get her eyes off you even more.

    Since this was such a strong session to get things rolling, you can move that distraction jump in a little closer. Add more motion with the wing – getting her jazzed up with holding her collar and a clean start, then jog forward. And if that goes well, add the start wing so she is going faster. I think her barking will increase when she is going faster – and since she barks on course, we do NOT want to avoid it in training. We need her to learn to process even while she is wanting to sing the big songs.

    if it goes well for a couple of sessions with the start wing and both of you moving more? replace the turn wing with the jump, and add in the GO reps for balance. That is where things will get exciting πŸ™‚

    And separately you can be doing the exit line games too!

    Great start here! Let me know what you think!
    Tracy

    in reply to: Carol with Stark #31982
    Tracy Sklenar
    Keymaster

    Howdy!

    Great questions!

    Question 1: I think you are defining the left/right verbals in a way that is going to limit their use:
    Think of defining most of the verbals as cuing the dog’s behavior regardless of your behavior. Left and right should not be positional or you are going to lose some of the power of the verbal. If it is positional, you are limited to only using it in those positions – which means you need to be visible in those positions reliably so he doesn’t have to process where you are before processing the verbals. And by locking the left/right in as positional verbals, then you need a whole host of additional verbals (I can see it was already making your head spin a little LOL!)

    So, left and right are HIS behavior – like when you say “sit”, he should sit regardless of where you are or what you are doing. That opens up a TON of uses for the verbal especially when you are not ahead of him.

    So for the serp line here: the left on the wing is obvious, yes. The right verbal happens as he is exiting the wing to indicate what to do on the serp jump (not the jump after it). The line on the serp jump is a classic example of a right turn – in this case, his right turn behavior turns him away from you, yes, but that doesn’t mean it is not a right turn. It is not a switch, or rear cross, or get out, or threadle πŸ™‚ It is a right turn on way to the serp jump so he lands parallel to the bar per the definition. Making it positional (meaning he has to be on your left side is limiting. Or, you can think of it as he IS on your left side – back in the says when we do 2 FCs or the left arm as serp arm – so there is a left side element to it if you want to think of it that way.

    I just prefer to think of it as: dog turns right, doesn’t matter what I am doing. Some verbals have to be positional (threadles!) but most do not, and it is much easier to not have to worry about your behavior, only his behavior πŸ™‚

    You might also be thinking that the right turn cue is for what would be jump 3 in a serpentine? It is not – the right verbal is for exiting what would be jump 1 (the wing here) to get the correct turn on jump 2, the serp jump. When he lands from jump 2, he should be facing jump 3 because you said right LOL and then when he lands, the turn you want on jump 3 is the verbal you are using there – if you just keep moving forward and he has done his right turn, he will automatically take jump 3.

    Question 2:
    Type your verbals definitions out, woman! That list of definitions makes this much easier LOL
    I think you are over-complicating it – yes, you can do a rear cross on the flat if that was actually what the next line is… but the rear cross on the flat is for jump 3 not jump 2 (I would be saying right for that one too, naming the dog’s behavior). On a regular serp with no rear cross, if he turns right before taking off for the serp jump, you would just keep running.

    If you do a FC after the start wing and he approaches the middle jump on your left, the verbal is ‘right’. But his behavior remains the same (‘turn to your right’) when you are on the landing side of the serp jump, so you don’t need to limit yourself to left/right being positional. Let me know if that makes sense.

    Tracy

    in reply to: Amore Week 3 #31977
    Tracy Sklenar
    Keymaster

    Hi! Thanks for posting this… you are probably moving to the harder levels too quickly, so she is having to process a whole lot of things and has some questions πŸ™‚
    I think her jumping effort on the serpentines looks good! We can change your mechanics to help make it look and feel more comfortable on the backsides.

    On the serp at the beginning: looked great! Just make sure you are calling the correct verbals -the right on the first rep is only for the wing, so switch to left as she gets to the wing so she gets the left turn on the jump. For the second rep, start with left for the wing but then switch to right for the jump.

    On the backside slices –

    >> I thought my body language all pointed to the back of the jump along with my verbal back

    Yes, we want the back verbal but we don’t want your body language pointing to the backside – you should be facing straight. On the video, you were helping too much with the sending and getting her to take the jump, so she was watching you over the bar or looking at your motion πŸ™‚ And I think you went to step 3 too fast – it should take multiple sessions to get there, and I only posted them this morning LOL!
    So looking at the mechanics:
    On the line up – you should both be facing completely straight. You were angled towards the backside wing, which will get her to take it with handling but not necessarily the verbal. So start a little further back, both of you facing the outer edge of the wing – hold her longer so you can start the verbal as she is next to you . Then just let go and walk forward with no other indication of the backside πŸ™‚
    At :41, for example, both of you were angled facing the entry and you stepped to the backside. She went… but it was handling not verbal that got her there. Having you face forward, start the verbal, then let her go while you just move forward will help her learn the verbal independently. That way you can start to move further across the bar, then eventually add the Step 3 of front versus backside.

    And about the slices: as soon as you know she is going to the backside, drop the toy in on the landing side as you move away. You were handing the reward to her so she was just watching you. By dropping it to the landing spot regardless of your motion, you will get her to take the jump no matter what you do, which will set up some beautiful slice lines!

    She did well with the backside circle wrap on one jump – but you are skipping steps πŸ™‚ and I will bug you about that. You will want her to set up a tighter turn over the bar, closer to the wing – so use the wing and jump setup so you can run hard through it and she goes really tight around the wing. She was getting the direction of turn here, but she was mainly turning after she landed rather than before takeoff. By doing it on a tall bar without the foundation of the wing-jump setup was causing her to lead from her front more than set her hind end.

    Your angle of line up was really good, so keep that angle but work it on the wing & jump setup for this week – we really want the dogs to turn before they takeoff and this foundation will help get that.

    So overall she is doing well, and it is my job to make sure you don’t skip steps so we can build the really independent verbals πŸ™‚

    Tracy

    in reply to: Ginger and Sprite ( 9 mos old Aussie) #31974
    Tracy Sklenar
    Keymaster

    Hi!

    She totally looked more rounded here!!

    >> had it set at 4 ft. Found a clean run article and I thought that’s what it said for medium dogs.

    I guess they didn’t define large or medium LOL! She is a large dog, in agility πŸ™‚ My terrier mixes are medium dogs (15″ tall approx). 5 feet worked better for Sprite for sure, and maybe 5.5 will be the sweet spot. The heights looked good! I think the dragged toy reps were better – she was powering more πŸ™‚

    So this can stay here for a few more sessions, spread out over the week, then raise the 2nd bar to 12.

    >>I think I remember Susan Salo using a double ascending as well.

    Yes – when the bar on jump 2 is up to 12 and she is happy with that, you can do a double ascending on an 8 & 12 inch bar.

    T

    in reply to: Denise Baker with Wilder #31969
    Tracy Sklenar
    Keymaster

    Hi!
    I hope Wilder feels better ASAP!!!! Poor little guy!!!!

    Lit’l Bit did a great job stepping in for her brother!

    On the first video – great job with your motion, verbals and reward placement! Lovely session. She only had one question:
    at :24 she thought your jogging in place was a trick of some sort LOL!! She didn’t trust that ‘right’ was the release word wen you were doing that so she went back into the sit stay – clever!!! Then you helped her out with a ‘ready’ and she was fine πŸ™‚

    On the 2nd video:

    >>I had to target past the 2nd jump to β€œengage” the 2nd jump, but after that on the right turns Lit’l Bit continued to go straight. When I targeted right turn after 1st jump she got it and back to turning right.>>
    >>>>I noticed that I am turning my shoulders for almost all of the turn jumps with success. In a few my shoulders were straight and she continued to the 2nd jump instead of turning.

    It was interesting to see how she got locked onto the 2nd jump – she is definitely good at reading motion, so she saw you facing forward and went forward. Good to know! by targeting the right turn, she had a bit of a lightbulb moment: “I can turn right even when the momma is facing forward!” Yay! So that was a useful help for her, and you did it correctly by fading the target pretty quickly. On the left side, I think the layout of the room was causing there to be a bit o a decel/turn for you, so she got her left turns well.

    The other thing you can do to help separate the verbals from motion is to say the verbal a few times, and then do a small shoulder turn – that can help her learn that the verbal predicts the physical cue, so she starts to turn on the verbal cue alone. The trick is that you don’t do them simultaneously (because she will only process the physical cue if they are simultaneous) – start the verbal as you are moving forward and after you say it 2 or 3 times, then turn your shoulders.

    I think it will be easier in a bigger space either outside or at the ring rental – you can start further back so she has more time to hear the verbal and process it, and you can also spread the jumps out more (maybe 8 feet apart?) so that 2nd jump is not as tempting πŸ™‚

    Great job here! Let me know what you think!
    Tracy

    in reply to: Jessica And Falco #31968
    Tracy Sklenar
    Keymaster

    Good morning!

    >> Also, thank you for calling me out on my marker cues. I turn on the video and forget I have them apparently. >>

    Ha! I feel this! I have all sorts of words and then the minute I take the leash off the younger dogs, all I can spit out is “yes!” hahaha!

    Training in the bigger space looked great!!
    One setup tweak for the first game here:
    Have the start wing lined up more center or on the line to the turn wing of the jump so you are not blocking the center of the bar and can just move forward to/past the exit wing.

    I see what you mean about him curling in – it was happening after he landed, not over the bar. I think what was happening was that you were waiting to be sure he was correct, and he is still learning that left/right/Go also predict reward placement. With that in mind – he had a really high rate of reinforcement and did not seem to have any questions (he had one go where he was looking at going to the far end of the tunnel perhaps) so I wouldn’t change much for now other than saying ‘get it’ sooner (as soon as you see his head turned to the correct direction) and maybe having the toy thrown from the hand closer to the landing line for the left/right turn. If he is turning right, have it in your right hand (and left hand for a left turn) – that way you can use fling it into position and you don’t have to turn and throw. That can make it a heartbeat faster.

    So for this game, next time you have room to do it… more motion! He looks ready πŸ™‚

    Game 3 looked fabulous, good boy! This is a hard game and he only seemed to have one question (1:47, where you were cuing a wrap and I think he would not have wrapped if you hadn’t dropped the toy in early LOL!) For the wrap reinforcement – try to have him come back to you to really solidify that wrap means come all the way back. The ball as reward was super high value but balls also predict being throw out away on the line. So, you can have him come back towards you and then throw the ball behind you (I wouldn’t want to deprive him of his ball!)
    Only one other suggestion: on the left turns, you were a little too far over towards the wing, almost blocking it. Your line on the right turns was more halfway between the jump and the wing – perfect! So try to match your left turn line of motion to the one you did on the right turn.

    He is ready for you to add more of your motion on this game too! Great job here πŸ™‚ Let me know what you think!
    Tracy

    in reply to: Juliet with Yowza #31967
    Tracy Sklenar
    Keymaster

    Good morning!

    >>But then I found that she came in closer to my line, and took the wrong side of the wing. So then I put in the opposite wing (to make it look more like a jump), and she still went around the wrong side of the wing. So then I put in a very low bar, so that she knew it was a jump – then she got it again, and did both left and right turns correctly most of the time. But then I discovered that I didn’t have the video on (Grrrrr!) >>

    Argh! I feel that pain! So frustrating! Bummer that we don’t have video of her questions, but maybe we will see her ask them again at some point.

    >>I suppose I should really have added in some β€œgo” reps, but the way I set it up, with as much distance as I could get between the starter wing and the turning wing, I didn’t really have room to send her over both jumps.>>

    You can move the jumps closer to the start wing, and lower the bars to 4 inches to work the go concept in a smaller space (the bars are too high here for Go with the jumps this close and not a lot of landing room). See below for more about the Go πŸ™‚

    First video: She is doing well but had she good questions about the soft turns.
    One of the things we are going to add to help her is a distinct difference in the delivery of the word, rather than just saying the word. The sound and style of delivery will get processed before the actual word, especially for young dogs. So, on the left turns here, you were loud and long and urgent which is very similar to GOOO GOOO so the verbal did not override motion when you continued to move forward (she got it when you decelerated).

    So think of the volume and length and general tone of the verbals to fall into one of 3 categories:
 -forward cues (GO!, backside push, etc) are loud and long, yelling them is fine πŸ™‚
    – Tight turns like wraps should be very quiet, slowly chattered like a whisper πŸ™‚
    – And the soft turn left/right cues should be in between: conversational volume a little longer, not yelled and not urgent. Almost β€œchill” LOL!

    I think in this session, the left/right verbals sounded a lot like the forward cue verbals so she was going forward more than she was turning. If you can change the style of how you say them (slow them a bit and say them quieter) she will be able to get them a lot between as you move forward.

    And since when you are moving fast and forward, she is having trouble processing the verbals without decel – keep moving forward and don’t decel, but do it slowly for both the soft turns and the go reps. I think the running in place might have been perceived as decel, because there was motion but you were not moving as much – so you can start right with her on the start wing so you have room to move forward.

    She gets a big gold star at :58 – you started out totally pressuring the line to the backside then she processed the right verbal and came to the front side – but because of that she did not have enough time or space to NOT take the 2nd jump. To help avoid that and get her onto a better line, do a front cross on the start wing – at 1:02 you did a post turn starting on your left side. You can start her on your right side and send her to the other side of the start wing, FCing to your left side as you move up the line to the exit wing more like what you did at 1:29, that worked really well!

    She was really starting to get the idea and collect really nicely as you were moving forward like at 1:22 and 1:26 (that one was REALLY great!) and she got a bunch of really good ones in a row to the right at the end. That opens up the question of the balance reps with the GO – we want to be sure she is processing the verbal and not just learning the setup so moving things a bit so she can do some go reps will really help her get the full understanding.

    Game 3: I agree, this is going really well!!!! On this one, as your speed increases, keep the verbals in their sound range – the left/right can be softer and longer, and the dig dig/checkcheck and be chattered like you did but you don’t have to do it as rapid-fire πŸ™‚ When you are loud and fast, there is an urgency to the verbals that propels them into the forward cue category.

    I totally know how hard it is to run fast and NOT yell LOL!!! The suggestion of β€œget faster, not louder” is easy to say, hard to do, but with practice it will feel really comfy. And plus when you are running courses β€˜for real’ the style of delivery of the verbal will match your handling cue, so it will feel really comfortable.

    She got herself into a bit of an oopsie vortex and you helped her with handling for a moment and she got back on track – you can also switch sides in that moment to break out of the vortex πŸ™‚ Overall, a really good session! You can add in a little more motion πŸ™‚

    Great job here! Let me know what you think!
    Tracy

    in reply to: Carol with Stark #31966
    Tracy Sklenar
    Keymaster

    Not yet – be chill, be chill πŸ™‚ I have some crazy stuff coming your way and we don’t want to muddy the waters πŸ™‚

    Tracy

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