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Yes, this summer was hot and busy!! I am glad you are enjoying the Zoom 🙂 And it sounds like the rear cross work was easy a d fun for your boys! Super! It is a surprisingly easy way to get way ahead 🙂 Keep using them to get as far ahead as possible by rear crossing and sending 🙂>>Do I do the Max Pup 032 Putting it together or wait for the Max pup 3 047 putting it together to become a self study ? Please Advise.
MaxPup PIT 032 and 047 are very similar so you can grab either! He is only 8 months old, so you have plenty of time to stretch out the learning so his brain and body can grow up 🙂
Thanks for the update! Keep me posted!
TracyHi!
This is a challenging sequence for us handlers 🙂 One thing to add here is to reward all of her efforts… anything that went wrong was a handling error, and her decisions were really good reflections of what she was seeing in terms of cues. So if she is off course or wide? Reward her, because she was correct here each time 🙂
Looking at the sections of the sequence:
The RC 2-3 looked great on most reps! Only one oopsie, at 1:08 – you turned too soon of the line and said tunnel, so that is where she went.
>>. The first issue was she kept taking the backside of 6.
When she was taking the backside, it was because you were on the line to cue those backside (and you were blocking the line to the front side). Compare those backside reps to your position at :38 & :55, where she had a clear line to the front and took it perfectly.
>>Then she just wasn’t reading my dig/RC cue at 8 and kept taking the off-course jump. I think she finally got it because I really pretty much stood still after 7?>>>
That was an acceleration/deceleration oopsie: since it is a tight wrap, it needed a big decel like a regular wrap would need. On the reps where she drove forward to the off course jump, you were accelerating through the RC so she was correct to continue to the jump after it. You had deceleration at 1:42 and 2:22 and she did much better there! So yes, it might have felt like you were tanning still, but it was basically because you were correctly decelerating into the tight wrap.
Nice work here! Let me know what you think!
TracyHi! So much good work here; he is really reading lines and turns nicely with you running!
A couple of ideas from the videos:
Course 1 – He is doing really well transitioning into the really tight turns like at 2!
You can show motion changes (decel) on those too – you were tending to be pushing into his line like at :05 (bar down) and :15. You can see this also at :36 and :41 on the jump before the weaves, where he is feeling the pressure of your motion pushing into the line and rounding his line to the jump on those wraps. So ideally you can run to the wing (let him see the wing) and decel – which should help him drive right back to the jump rather than round the ine.Nice line all the way through the opening to the weaves! And the weaves looked good!!! So fun to see him running full blast and reading the line so well.
On the threadle line after the weaves – try to give a turn cue on the jump after the weaves, to help set up the threadle. A name call or a ‘right’ directional can get him facing the threadle jump. Then, on the first rep you ran away from the threadle before he looked at it – at 1:14 and the next reps you waited til he turned his head to commit to the threadle jump and it looked great.
That set up a really nice ending line. You can drive into the RC at 1:19 sooner so he sees the RC pressure right behind him before he makes a takeoff decision. You hung aka a bit at the very end, but I think you can drive into it even more to give the info even sooner.
At 1:35 he ran pat he jump after the threadle – it looks like that jump was a slight lead change away and not right on his line, so be sure to maintain connection and cue that jump specifically, more like what you did at 1:45.
Course 2:
On the opening at jump 2, you were a bit too far from the line so he had to go back and find 2 and hit the wing at :03. He didn’t hit the wing at :14 and 1:48 but he still had to go back and find the jump. So your running line can be within an arm’s length of 2 and let him see your turn before he enters the tunnel, so he exits facing 2.Nice line across the back to the weaves! He was close to that entry in the first part but did a brilliant job finding it at the end!!! Good boy!
He is getting better and better with the turns on the jump line after the DW too – you are cuing and leaving, so he is setting himself up really nicely.
That Backside in front of the tunnel is SUPER hard. He needed you to do a but decel to help him or a FC, but the FC sets the line to the wrong jump if you are a little in the way 🙂 So this is a good ‘pop out’ section where you can work a wing wrap into the jump-tunnel discrimination to add some momentum – just walking into it at a steady pace, then adding more and more acceleration into it 🙂
Great job on these! I think he is doing well on these courses!!
Tracy
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I think overall it went well! He was reading the cues on just the tunnel and also when you added the wing. Yes, he had a few questions: part of that is his relative lack of experience with tunnel threadles, and part of that that you can turn sooner and ore towards the threadle side:
>>Is my body position incorrect? Feet pointed the wrong way? Any other suggestions on reinforcing the behavior on this one?
You can turn your feet to the threadle entry more – on these reps, you were not turning to the correct tunnel entry enough, so you were in some ways still presenting the wrong end. On the first side, you were turning better so he responded better. IO the second side, you were not moving as much so he had more questions.
It sounds like you were giving the left and right verbals, so be sure to turn and face your feet to the threadle end of the tunnel, and move towards it (rather than be stationary). Being stationary causes your line to somewhat still show the tunnel entry you don’t want.
So your upper body is looking good, and you can add getting closer to the wing and then turning your feet & line of motion to show the threadle entry more while still having your upper body & threadle arm still opened back to him. Let me know if that makes sense, and how the session tonight went!!
Nice work 🙂
TracyHi!
She did really well with the teeter plankrobatics!!! She seemed happy to hop on, turn around, and go back and forth – perfect! She was also happy to do the mini mountain climbers, running straight up it (squeeze cheese is magical LOL!!!)So since this went well, you can lower the Teach It side by maybe a half inch to add a tiny bit more tip. And you can get her blasting back and forth on the board even more too!
>>How much longer will you be answering our posts? Have enjoyed this class. What is on your agenda for this age group in the way of online classes>>
I am so glad you are enjoying it – it has been a fabulous group of young dogs to watch!!! The class forum will be open for feedback til September 15th. I am in the process of figuring out what the next young dog classes will be… stay tuned!
TracyHi!
>>She is very tentative in the weaves. That is not a new behavior I think I didn’t train them correctly. She also weaves with her head up and smacks herself in the face at pole three a lot.>>
You can retrain them with channels, so she is happy to lower her head and drive through. That will also make them more fun 🙂
>> I am happy to put the jumps down but I do have a question, how do I teach her to keep the bars up? Just on easy stuff for now? Or should I be doing jump grids?>>
That is a complex question – it comes down to a lot of different parts: a conditioning program that incorporates plyometrics, core strength and cardio, plus some grids once or twice a week, plus timely connected handling. And, I suggest only jumping her at 24” if there is 20 feet or more between jumps. Anything tighter will cause her to slow down or potentially drop the bars,
On the videos:
The walk through looks good! Now… do it faster 🙂 She will be moving pretty fast, so practicing the walk through will more speed will give you a better idea of how quickly you need to move on course.
On the runs:
At :07 the rotation into the FC was too soon – you ran fast then slammed on the brakes so she turned too soon. On those wraps, the rotation is not the turn cue, it is the transition from acceleration to deceleration. So, in the walk through, run into it, then slow down, then rotate – that will more closely match what she needs to see on the run.
You were MUCH clear on the 2nd rep with the decel and then the rotation, so she nailed it! Yay!>>Her tail was wagging again and her head was up! Still lots to work on but that definitely seemed like it went better!>>
Totally agree, she was a happy girlie! You rewarded when something went wrong (handler error :)) and then BIG reward when you both got it right. YAY!
Nice work here! Have fun at camp!!
TracyOh poor girlie, something definitely hurts! Hopefully it is just a bruise or something that needs a little time off.
I think the RC looked pretty good – a tiny bit of the old L but overall you got on the RC line. Think of the wing of the jump before the RC jump as an important position to be running towards – you don’t need to run 2-3 as a straight line, you can send her over 1 then trust she will take 2 as you run directly to the wing of 3 to face the RC diagonal.
Keep me posted about how she is feeling!!!
Tracy
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The speed of the walk through looked good! That really helps the run, because you are more prepared for how fast he will be going 🙂
The throwback is a good choice for 3 but you might not have time to do the throwback AND ge the connection needed for the backside of 4, as you an see in the first run (at :16 you didn’t get the backside cue started til he was a stride from takeoff from the front, which means his decision has been made about where to go). You were quicker there on the 2ndrun, which is good to know how quick you need to be for it. But it put you behind for the last 2 jumps and both of those bars came down. Being further from 3 helped!
Good job on the 2nd video being even further from 3 and rotating even sooner!
There is a lot of rotation in the throwback, so you can also consider other options like a double blind, or handling from the landing side (German turn) so that you don’t have to rotate as much – which means you can move through and show the 4-5 cues sooner. The bar at 4 came down on the 2nd video, because it was so hard to rotate for 3, do the blind, then get past the wrap exit of 4. At :16 you were doing the rotation on 3 as he was taking off, which makes it a little harder to get the backside push (great connection to get it at :17!) and even harder to get past the exit wing of 4 before he makes a takeoff decision (:18) – you were not quite past it, so he dropped he bar trying to change distractions in the air.
Nice work here! Let me know what you think of the other options for #3!
TracyHi!
>>Although I am getting wrapped around the wheel when I think of how to handle how to handle take off side threadles. Would I use my tight right verbal with my threadle hand up and keep it up as I run the line?>>
You might use a tight right verbal on the jump before the threadle jump, but the threale jump would get a threadle verbal. Do you have a course map example that we can put it in context?
T
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I see what you mean with the poles! I think she loses you on the rear cross, especially when you hang back a lot like at :17. So get right behind her on the RC of the entry , just like you would with a RC on a jump. Then, for now, move all the way up the line of the poles to about pole 10, so she can see where you are and turn the correct direction. When she gets that, you will be able to hang back more and more, and she will turn correctly. Think of it as fading out your position one pole t a time: run to 10, then run to pole 9, then to pole 8, etc.The only other hard part was the threadle wrap . I think you were doing it with too much speed in the hand cues. You can slow down the turn away and keep your hands low more like 1:28 and the last rep, so she reds it as more of a collection cue and not a giddy up cue when you have a lot of motion or high arms.
Nice work!
TracyHi!
>>What I’m seeing with Coal is that speed comes with understanding, the better he understands, the faster he gets.
This is good! It allows him to learn things really well, and then he lets you know he understands by adding in all the speed 🙂
The sequencing looks good! He is doing well on the a-frame 🙂
On the wrap of the double, you can rotate your feet to move forward sooner so that he can power out on the line after he lands. So when he lands from the triple, you can decel and take a step to the double. Then when he passes your feet, rotate your feet to the next line (towards the camera in this case :)) and then move forward. If he questions the commitment, you can look behind you to the landing spot as you move forwardGreat job here :) Tracy
Nice work here with Min! Rear crosses are not her favorite thing 🙂 But they are great to have in the toolbox for when you need them!
Seq 1 looked great 🙂Seq 2: you got caught a bit behind the wing of 2 at :16 so she looked at you after landing and didn’t have a straight line to 3 because you had to navigate around the wing. The rest looked good!
>>not coming in over the jump after the tunnel.
Yes, that was so hard for her!! You can add more eye contact after the tunnel – it looks like she was getting lots of cookies for it and it helped 🙂
Turn away rear cross: you can set it with your hands like you did here, and also with more pressure on the RC line like you did at :53. Try not to pull too far away then push back in (like at 1:01), you can you move up along the RC diagonal – she read it each time you did that. Eventually you can fade the diagonal, but I think for now she needs the RC pressure.
She looked good on the bigger sequences! Yay! You had a little disconnection at 1:40 so she read threadle and needed more RC diagonal at 1:56 but overall she did all those RCs really well! NICE!
2nd video – revisiting the tight RCs to the other side: adding more RC pressure on the tight RC to the right totally helped at :16. Compare it to :12 where there was no RC diagonal and she had trouble reading it.
She had a little question at :23 – you were looking forward and not connected to him, so zigged in than zagged back out. So remember to looked at her even on these crazy RCs.3rd video –
>>Kaladin is feeling ambidextrous this week
For real!! He looked super smooth on these as well.
Kaladin just reads these all so smoothly, in both directions. YAY!!Great job! Let me know what you think!
TracyHi!
>>as my fitbit auto-recognized all my training sessions as aerobic workouts. Lol!
Ha! Perfect!!!
>>In the last video, 10-11-12 line, the reps where the wraps were good I did want a wrap. The reps after that I was going for a slice. I thought the slice would be better for him, but it was harder for me! We will try it again.>>
Good – I thought the wraps at the beginning were supposed to be wraps, and he did well! And I also agree – the slice is a better line for the dog but harder for us 🙂
T
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Great to see you here! The rear crosses are looking good! Yay!
For the backsides, you were running what I call a banana line which is towards the backside then away from it, curling your shoulders off the line. You can run more parallel to her line after 4 to support her line to the backside – you were curling your shoulders inward at :04 , :12 for example, which ends up with your shoulders pointing to the font of the bar.
You were *almost* perfect at :40 and :47 and :55 but then you curled your shoulders in at the last moment, plus you stopped moving. On the very last rep, you moved for longer and added a bit of arm support, and it helped! So you can keep moving forward until she is almost at the entry wing, with your shoulders facing her and with an exaggerated connection so she stays our on the line.
And yes, give that backside cue, it totally helped! And when you give it, look her right in the eye when you give it, which will help keep your shoulders in the right spot – keep saying it and looking at her til she gets to the backside 🙂
Great job!!
TracyHi! Lots of great work here!
Double crosses:
>>Just gonna say this is NOT going to be a ‘go to’ move for us –
Ha! Not yet, maybe… LOL!
It is a phenomenal move to tighten up timing!
On your left (first part of the video): Your first blinds were late and that is why it was so hard. They were starting when she was arriving at the wing (:40, for example) and that is when the first bind should be finished – so the lateness made it all harder.
And more importantly – the connection needs to come from eye contact, not from your arm being out. So try to keep your arms in upper tight to your ribs, so you can do the blind and look at her eyes, to help her see the new side. That will really smooth out the blinds!
On your right, the first blind as timely at 1:24! And you had more eye contact and less arm so everything went much better.
1:30 was even earlier! And nice low arm at 1:43!!! Those reps looked terrific.
When you went back to the other side, your first blind was more timely but you had more arms and less eye contact so she didn’t see it as well. So when she starts on your left, be sure to keep your arms in nice and tight, to emphasize eye contact on the end of the blind.
The first Ladder video went really well! She needed of moment of reminder to find the wing near the tunnel at the beginning. And you need to be quicker with your connection at :34 (fixed it nicely at :47) but overall, both sides looked great! Her commitment looked REALLY strong!
Ladder 2:
>>Hardest problem was me remembering what to do on the last wing – LOL!>>
Ha! This one is a brain bender for the humans LOL! But you got it and she read everything well! And she is bending really well in both directions nd I am super happy with her commitment 🙂
Great job here!
Tracy
