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Kaladin did really well here! I think that there is a subtle “release” of the threadle arm as you pass the wing which helps cue the turn away… but only when he is on your left. When he is on your right, you hold the threadle arm & verbal longer – which might be why he is a little stickier on that side and went behind you on that one rep. The subtle release is perfectly fine, so try doing it on the right side too and see if it helps! Let me know if you see what I mean – it is a subtle return of your hands to a natural position instead of the threadle position.
Min is doing well too! She is not ready for as much speed as Kaladin is ready for, and I also think you can totally help her with that little release of the threadle cue (a little motion back to the wing as your hands return to the natural position after the threading). That can help even when you are further ahead or moving faster 🙂
Great job! Onwards to sequences!
TracyGood morning ! He did a GREAT job here! I loved his striding and speed on the serp lines. And he was even kind enough to let his Papillon sibling have a turn LOL!!!
This was a really great session, almost perfectly connected, and he found the Ines really well. There were 2 oopsie moments, both handling-induced because baby dogs are very literal:
He ran past the last jump at :08 and :40 because your arm went forward to point to the jump, which turns the shoulder every so slightly past the jump. Young dogs will run past the jump when that happens. When you kept your serp arm in position and strong connection, he found the last jump each time. So, to eliminate the oopsies, maintain the connection of the eye contact after he lands from the serp jump and until you see him turn to the last jump. And, keep your set arm back and out in serp position until you see that turn to the last jump, then you can relax it to normal position again. The serp arm and connection cues the come in AND go out on the line, so holding it in place a bt longer will help him find the last line.
Great job here! Keep tightening up the line, he is doing great!!
Tracy
Good morning!
>>it’s a whack a mole
This basically sums up training adolescent dogs LOL!!!
She looks like the got the first jump on every rep here. It was the 2nd rep that was harder. I think a couple of things were going on:
– she doesn’t love jumping into the pressure of getting really tight to you
– she was predicting what jump 3 was, so she was avoiding the pressure and heading directly to 3 🙂You were compensating a bit by running in between the uprights or jump 2 more, but we do want her t find it all laterally for you. So to help her find that line, just do a bunch of straight line reps of 1-2, no crosses, dog on right or dog on left. Lead out maybe halfway between the 2 jumps. Start close to the jumps but just run alongside them, don’t get between the uprights, then throw the reward straight. Gradually get further and further away laterally, so you are on the better line to 3 (still rewarding for taking only 1-2). Then we will have you lead out further and further, still rewarding that straight line. That should build up the value and allow you to then get the blinds more easily.
And separately, keep working the serps and lead out pushes so she gets more value for jumping into pressure.
Working these separately will build them up then we can put them back together pretty quickly.
Nice work! Enjoy the weekend!
TracyGood morning!
The mat was a great choice here, and the whole session went well! It is a really hard skill so getting it perfectly without any handling help is really hard but he was pretty close to perfect!
Your verbals sounded different which also helps – the tunnel verbal was entirely different style of delivery than the mat verbal and that helps him discriminate. I think that he will be just fine when we do add handling to this on course. The hardest part was ignoring the toy in your hand LOL! So having the toy on your back or you can even stuff it in your arm pit will help him focus forward to the obstacles.Tunnel entry & exit video:
>>After seeing the video of this I could see that what I was feeling on the inside (lack of confidence about my handling) indeed translated to what I was doing. I was late a few times and kind of uncertain in my motion as well. >>
Unless I am severely under-caffeinated, you didn’t have a lot of trouble here and he did well! Yes, you can run with a little more conviction, it kind of looked like you were not 1000% sure – but the session went really well, you got all the Ines and verbals, and he responded beautifully!
Go reps looked good at the beginning and end – there was a clear transition into acceleration and he did really well!
On the right verbals, you were definitely more decelerated and he read that too. Yay! You can let him see you peel away to the right turn wing sooner (before he enters) to really solidify it.The left turn rears looked GREAT! These are really hard and he nailed it. On the right turn rear crosses, I was not sure if he was going to get the first one because you were more hesitant and he had just done 2 left turns… but Boom! Nailed it! That is impressive because the rear crosses on the tunnel are really hard. O the rears, it might feel more comfortable to stay by the wrap wing more til he finishes wrapping, then drive the RC – you got a little ahead and had to wait for him, then rear cross.
Great job here! Let me know what you think!
Tracy
Yes, totally like this! It helped her set up for that first jump very differently. She did really well!!! Re-visit this every couple of days and keep flattening the angle of the jump. She is doing great but it is not an everyday type of grid.
Tracy
Hi! Sorry he got hurt but, I am definitely glad to see him back in action!
Video 1: The opening looked great, both times! And that teeter was worth an ice cream sundae!
On the Backside wrap at 3 and before the teeter at :27 & 1:44 – you can move past the wing sooner so he has more room on the landing side, you were staying there a bit too long so he was waiting for you to move about of the way.
Working the double blinds after the weaves:
1st blind at :38 was great! 2nd blind at :39 was late (he was landing ) but yo can save it by keeping your arms in tight to your ribs and making a quick re-connection.
You did a FC at :52, looked great. Timing of the next FC at :53 was late too (he was already in the air) but you caught him with connection and he got it. When you came back through there at 1:50, the timing was sooner on the FCs but he was sill wide there on the 2nd one. So you can try doing the BCs sooner (you will be past the jump on the 2nd blind, which is better position, because you don’t have to rotate. Another option is to leave him in the weaves and get to landing side of the jump, and serp it! You were SUPER close to that at 2:20
Dog walk was AMAZING and that set him in a new level of speed on the next line. Try the blind in that situation instead of the FC (1:00 and 2:00) because it will get you up the line faster and able to show him the backside sooner too. And, yo can use a little brake arm (left arm coming out to kind of be like WHOA DUDE! to help him tighten up the backside line after that massive speed buildup. It looks Ike you gave him a little brake arm at the end on the last rep, and it definitely helped him! You didn’t quite get your feet turned after it (maybe surprised that he read it so well LOL!) so he rear crossed the next jump, but good job getting him to threadle back in the ending line! Yay!
2nd video:
Nice opening! You can play with getting better position by standing on the landing side of 2, then sending to 3 and the tunnel – while layering 2. That can get you further ahead for the speedy RDW. That will help keep the bar up at 1:04 because you will be around the jumps and fully turned to the next line.
He had a little too much heat on the teeter on the first rep LOL! Make sure that you don’t stop with him 0 yo were moving past it nicely when he self-released, then helped with decel on the next rep. You can show him you moving past it, so he doesn’t rely on decel. You decelerated and rotated towards him a bit at 1:08 and he stopped nicely, so definitely keep working on his letting you keep moving and he hits & holds the position.
On the line the weaves – he definitely had trouble finding the line ahead of you there! You can accelerate more and keep your shoulders pointed t0 the line with more direct connection to him in the jumps before it, and add a little outside arm to help him stay on the line (rather than moving towards him, which cued the tunnel).
The FC on the jump after the weaves at :36 was a little late (he was already in the air) – and too early at 1:22 🙂 You rotated as soon as he exited, so adding a deceleration into it will get the commitment and the turn. You can decel and as soon as he is out of the weaves, then rotate as he is looking at the jump so you are fully finished with the FC before he takes off. That will both tighten the turn and help him keep the next bar up.
The next line through the a-frame with the layering looked GREAT!!! But I see a pattern: amazing extension speed after a running contact, and turning him is hard. You were rotated the instant his feet touched the ground after the frame at :42 (and he took a big wide line) and even more so at 1:30 – having you closer to him definitely helped get the turn here. But keep adding in getting the turn from a bigger and bigger distance so he can read it from anywhere.
The Go line looked good! So fast and he was looking ahead brilliantly! Throw the toy sooner or leave it placed there so he doesn’t collect on the last jump, but overall the long line was great.
One note on all of it – great job with your connection! You are connected all the way through on both courses, and he did really well because of that :)
Great job! Let e know what you think!
TracyHa! I thought you were moving slowly to be calm about it, but it was a footwear issue LOL!
On the zigzag grid: She is doing really well here, no real problem reading the line and organizing the zigzag on the 2nd jump, even as you moved it to a flatter line. Nice! Only one suggestion – yo can change her line up position to get the zigzag on the first jump too: This is a little different than other grids in that we want her to set up a bit more sideways. So, instead of facing the first jump straight on, she should be parallel to the wing so she steps in sideways to the first jump and not forward. That should get get the sideways jumping on the first bar and also challenge her to maintain that sideways jumping on the 2nd bar too (great for serps and backside slices).Angled teeter entries: She probably was not too sure on the first rep because the long jump boards were a slightly weird visual, perhaps? But as you noted, she got confident very quickly. She is doing something interesting: she is leaping onto the board, landing at the top of the yellow, rather than running up the board. It might be the visual of the long jump? So you can reduce the visual by moving the boards in closer to the side of the teeter, so only a few inches ar sticking out. That can still give her the help with the entries while reducing the leaping on. She ran straight up on the last rep and that is more of what we want 🙂
Great job! Let me know what you think!
TracyHi! These look really strong! And the work at 16” looked really good, I didn’t really notice a difference between her 14 and 16 inch efforts, both looked good! And yes, her stay looks great and that makes this all so much easier!
>> She was dropping the last bar. Not sure if the was chasing, fatigue or misjudging take off. Or, toy toy toss!
It was the toy toss : )At :54 and 1:24, you were throwing as she was organizing takeoff, so she was going for the toy. On the other reps, you threw later and she was lovely. I saw no issues with her jumping choices here! So either throw late or leave the toy placed on the line so throw timing is not an issue.
>> Connection! Connection! I know. The blind are still hard for me to rotate that far back.
She was reading the lines well and your timing of starting the blind was lovely! It is all about that connection as you mentioned… on this big blind with all the motion into it, try the toy-across-the-body approach as it opens up the connection and you won’t have to think about rotating back to her. Your blinds on the landing side of 4? Super! Really strong connection and she read them beautifully.
>>Plus, I wasn’t sure about the throwback front cross. I think I need less arm back?
Your arms on the collection cue looked good and she was collecting really well! To cue a better turn at 2, lead out more to jump 3, so you can release and you won’t really need to move forward to 2 (the motion forward was driving her long and the first element of the throwback was happening as she was over the bar at 2). So lead all the way out to 3, release, and as she is approaching 2: start the throw back by bringing your arm back. That timing plus your position/relative lack of motion will cue a nice turn at 2. And great job on the connections after the throwback, because she knew exactly where to be 🙂
Have fun with the FC drill and also try the lead out push, those will be useful 🙂
Great job here! Let me know how it goes tomorrow.
TracyHi! Great job in the live classes this week!!
>> I was working on lead out game last night, not videoing, but she’s kept going around the 1st jump, when I lead out the 2 jumps.
Was this when you were moving into the blind? Or the lead out push? You can place the toy on the ground in between 1 and 2, lead out and release her. That might help! Also, be close to the wings of the jump to help support the line. Try to grab some video, that will give me a better idea of what is happening.
>> I don’t know if just tired also.
This is a possibility 🙂 She had a busy week!
>> Do I just need to work the one jump and the strike a pose? I did just set her in front of the jump for success like in the seminar.
You can also back chain it – put her in a stay in front of jump 2 (if it is the 2 jump lead out game) – then gradually put her further and further away to and closer to jump 1.
Let me know if I am understanding it correctly 🙂
TracyGood morning!
Thanks for the video!
This was a good walk through – you can see the parts you are really comfy! And the parts you were looking forward too soon (the jump after the weaves) and then the section where your brain was telling you that you were not quite ready to run it (the ending line, with the threadle line (12-13-14) where you got quiet and slowed down, then spit out the wrong verbal :)) When that happens, you can isolate that section and walk it a few times so that your brain and body feel more ready.
The opening of the run matched the walk through! Keep yelling the tunnel cue when you are layering – she went and did it independently, but she was not 1000% convinced because she is still learning to find those tunnels and layering lines at the bigger distances.
Nice job driving to the weave entry!
The jump after the weaves had a little question (1:12) – the cross, you were moving away from the jump while rotated so she was not sure if she should take the jump or follow your motion. On that type of wrap, you can hold position there til she passes you to the jump. You held position perfectly there with Mae and she was lovely!
You got through the threadle line (12-13-14-15) but you both had to slow it down to think and she was not sure if it was a slice or wrap on 13 (I think you walked a wrap but ran a slice? It was harder to know which you wanted but that is great – you continued on as if it was all perfect :)) With Maewyn, I think you wanted the threadle wrap – it looked like what you were handling and it is what she did, she just didn’t quite have the skill for it yet (not something we really taught her generation LOL!)
Great job here! The next step to the walk through element is to find those spots where your brain slows down to sort it out, and isolate them and re-walk a few times til you can navigate that section as smoothly as the rest.
Have a great weekend!
TracyGood morning!
I think the main thing that might be happening here is that she is too hot to want to run fast or go into that long dark tunnel – she was already breathing hard before the first rep, and the value of the reinforcement available was not high enough to offset the heat. Bear in mind that she is really young and has never experienced this level of heat and humidity! It might not seem hot to us humans but she sure thinks it is hot. The heat is a tremendous distraction and we need to approach things carefully to build her up in the heat.
So in general: use incredibly short bursts of training and shorten the tunnel so it has more ventilation inside it (having it straighter with less curve will help) and she can see the light through it.
And, to help get rid of the tunnel refusals – use the highest possible reinforcement that you have available for her, and reward the tunnel itself a whole lot – she was refusing it when you were trying to rotate to the next line, or when you reached for the toy – both of which indicate low value of the tunnel in the presence of the environmental challenge (heat!)
And do one or two reps… them be finished. If she is breathing hard, tongue hanging out… nothing good will come of doing more with a puppy. A fit adult dog? Yes, maybe they can do more. But puppies are not very heat tolerant so watch her length of tongue. If she is breathing hard, you might want to do a 30 second session then be finished.
And when she is feeling good and driving harder, you will be able to focus on adding more connection on the blinds (like at 1:27 and 1:40) – keep working that arm back, eye contact as you exit the blind so she knows where to be. Part of her question there was also “I am really hot can we just stop”, based on her expression and tongue length.
Nice work! Stay cool :) Tracy
Good morning!
The tunnel double whammy warm up looked great! Is ‘hey hey’ your tight turn tunnel cue?
One wing: super! You did a GREAT job of turning your feet towards the line you wanted and NOT rotating towards her. Your running line and connection all looked lovely – click/treat for you, I know you’ve been working hard on it!
1:09 a little late, looks like you started it after she was rounding the wing – she looked at you and decided there was not enough info to change the line. So, start it before she arrives at the wing like you did at 1:19, that was great
The wrap cue on the wing followed by the threadle cue (like at 1:32 for example) went REALLY well!
Was the left/right verbal for the wing after the tunnel, or for the tunnel exit?
1:46 you said the left before she entered the tunnel then got quiet. I think you wanted them to apply to the wing, so you can delay them til she exits, and repeat them on the way to the wing. If you say the left or right before she enters the tunnel, she should turn on the tunnel exit.
The full sequence looked great! I am doing a big happy dance about how well she was able to do the big GO lines and also turn progressively tighter and tighter when asked. Super!!!! You can use your verbals more, repeat them each a few times to support the processing. She’s got a lot to do out there so you don’t want to say it once then get quiet, because then she has fewer cues to rely on to get it right. On the tunnel threadles, you can move up the timing so she is hearing the wrap cue as she exits the first wing then the tunnel threadle cue before she arrives at the 2nd wing.
Great job here! Let me know how the lead outs go!
TracyGood morning!
Her stay is looking really strong! Yay! Keep rewarding it 🙂 But also, lead out with connection and more energy, jog to position, make it all happen more quickly – I suggest this because walking away at a normal walking pace and without connection takes a while and she starts to look around. So, as soon as she is in the stay, jog to the lead out with connection and I bet she watches a lot more.
The crosses in video 1 look good – it is hard to tell the timing on the first few reps of crosses because she is on landing side of 1, but when she moved to takeoff side of 1 we could see the timing: Pretty strong so far!
The BC can come sooner by a step but more importantly… you can run more. That will help the timing feel more natural like it does mid-course.
The Throwback looked good as far as position and timing – when you exit to reward, maintain the rotation rather than turn back towards the jump.
The Lead out push (aka serp as you mentioned :)) needs 2 small tweaks: more upper body rotation so your upper body is facing the bar of 2 for a long time, basically til she lands from 2. Also, lead out to it and stand still in position, make connection so she sees the line – then release. At 1:50, you were moving into it and your shoulder/arm were perpendicular to the bar, so she didn’t read it. Ideally, you stand till on the release for these and your shoulder/arm/chest are parallel to the bar. The 2nd rep was better because you released on the other side of the jump (outer wing) but that doesn’t show the turn at 2.
2nd video:
She is reading the blind well here! It can definitely be sooner on this side – when you see she has landed from 1, you can start it (and you can be running on the now too :))
Throwback – this is also looking strong! On this rep, you rotated with your opposite arm across your body, which you don’t need to do on these – the same arm that draws her to you can also ‘throw’ her back. It would be left arm here for that. O the other side you used only the right arm and it looked great!
Lead out pushes – She had the same questions as the first video in terms of standing still and opening up your shoulder to be parallel to the bar and not perpendicular. So lead out to the center of the bar, assume that really rotated ‘strike a pose’ upper body with your feet pointing towards 3, and release: stand still on the release til she lands form 1 and is coming towards 2, then you can start to move towards 3. That way you can get to good position (center of the bar here) and get the commitment and the turn.
Nice work here! Let me know what you think!
Tracy
