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Tracy Sklenar
KeymasterHi!
It is totally possible that Pose was trying to multi-task the footing and the line – the weather has been so weird! Normally this is a perfect time of year to be outdoors. Fingers crossed for some rain to help the footing!T
Tracy Sklenar
KeymasterHi! Sorry for the delay, being on the west coast is messing up my time schedule!
Overall these went well! Setup should be a little tight, it was more AKC-ish in the opening especially. Good work on this, he was finding his lines beautifully! You also had really good connection throughout. Hard to see he start line stuff but it looks like you were setting him up and rewarding him nicely.
Course 1:
The FC worked well in the opening!
The first tunnel might have been set a little inverted but you handling it like a backside, which made it work đAbout the 8 and 15 jump after the tunnel there: the actual verbal depends – I would definitely use a GO to cue the extended exit of the tunnel (say it before he enters the tunnel) and then either a jump cue if it is basically on his line or a backside cue if you think he has a choice between front and back (not an out cue, if out means lead change away because there is no lead change here) but also be sure to keep moving.
On the 2nd rep, the FC (:52) at the beginning was too âopenâ (you didnât finish the rotation) and not as clear as the 1st one – It was clearer to him when you finished your rotation quickly and drove to the new line.
3rd rep was a blind on the opening: that works too but finish it sooner so he sees the new connection just before he lands from the previous jump. I think the FC is the better choice based on how it turns your feet to 3 sooner than the BC.
4th rep at 1:56 – you were moving backwards through the FC – move forwards to 3. Those reps where you moved forward out of the FC looked great!
You tried a rear cross after that…. not as good as the FCs đ The FC at 2:45 was definitely better and the FC at 3:36 was really good!!Nice serp to the tunnel at 3:03 and 3:52 but you can keep him on your right to send to the tunnel rather than do the blind to your on left and then have to rear cross it. Keeping him on your right is simpler đ
About the weaves – I agree, you can keep them more independent of the big course work to keep success rates high. You can work them in sequence, reward them – then carry on. Otherwise, you can replace them with a jump or tunnel so he doesnât get into the habit of passing them.
Course 2 –
One thought about where to spin and where to not spin đ I would put a spin in at 3 here, to tighten up the turn and move up the next line. I would not put a spin at 10 – you can send and leave, which will both cue the line and keep you in motion. Sends do not need to be stand still moments – give him one step to it then giddy up outta there đReally nice line on the blind cross 6-7! You almost had it on the 2nd rep art :53 but just needed a little more connection as you ran up the line – more direct eye contact.
You turned to the inside (wrap) on the 8 jump – the faster line is to the outside (slice line) if there is room with the fence there – he did read the wrap nicely but it set up a harder line on the 9-10 line.
At :24 after the spin on the backside, it looks like you pushed in a little and that caused him to go to the backside. I thought you set a clearer line at 1:12 and he did the same thing, so a stronger name call might help to turn his head more? I donât think he needs more than that.
At :32, we got a good visual of how dogs know the difference between a real reward and an oops reward when the handler doesnât really feel it đ When it is real, you get excited and keep moving. When it is a âoops something went wrongâ you stop and hand it to him while talking but not really praising. Note the difference with a more âwoohoo!â Reward at :59ish and he seemed really engaged!At 1:06 there was an awkward start line moment – he stood up and shook and you took off and ran, and things went a little sideways for a moment. So keep working the connection and release so there is a smooth transition there. He got back on track really nicely and then the ending looked great!
Nice work here! Let me know what you think!
TracyTracy Sklenar
KeymasterGood morning!
Lots of good work here with both of them, and something really big to think about too that might make handling sooooo much easier!!With Demi:
Baseline – lots of good work here!Here is a big thing though: I want to think about turns differently with her (and with Wilson too :)) You are trying to control all the turns, but I donât think you need to! She is responsive. If you control all the turns, it all looks the same in terms of the physical cues, so she wonât really know what you want.
Think of the 3 different turns here as being large, medium, small. The 5-6 is a large turn, it is faster when it is wider, so send her with a lot of momentum and get outta there. No need to control it as long as she knows where she is going.
The 8-9 turn is medium – I bet she can read it with decel and that is all she needs. The big rotations were not needed and might be causing an issue with the other turns.
The 11 turn is small and tight, so that is there the tight turn verbal and the rotation is most usefulI thought 5-6 was good, it is not going to get tighter than that with a big dog without slowing her down. Yay! Question:
What does dig dig dig mean specifically? 5-6 is not a tight turn so if it means tight turn, save it for a tight turn spot. The out cue you used with Wilson might be more appropriate there.I donât think you need the spin 8-9, especially with the big early outside arm there – that should be a cue for massive collection and 8-9 is a soft turn but not massive collection.
For example, you had too much rotation at :38 and she almost didnât take it and plus it was too soon (facing her as she exited the tunnel. That much rotation should only be for wraps like at 11 – you did it there at :45 but never made connection to the new side and ran on a similar line… so she took the jump that was correct the other times she saw the same cue. Did you reward her? Good girl! Pay up! LOL!Going back to 8-9: Being backwards and fully rotated on the 8-9 turn is cuing a lot of collection but then pairing it with moderate extension… so she is thinking that rotated cue is a cue for a medium turn rather than a really tight turn.
Then you pulled her off the tunnel at 1:19 by running away from it. With both dogs, make sure you drive ot the tunnels to commit them, you have plenty of time to get where you want to go next đ
OK, more obsessing on the spin moves: Look at 1:28 and 1:32, and also 2:20 and 2:05: the cues and verbals look the same for very different turns. So for 8-9, just try a lateral send: send to 8 with a bit of decel then move laterally, calling her. Same the big rotation for 11, where you can also add a blind cross exit to send her to the tunnel on your left side.Wilson –
Same thoughts with him about not needing that extreme rotation for 8-9 AND 11. He started off by responding to the big rotation with collection at 8 but then stopped doing it because it didnât mean collect – we donât want to dilute the collection cue there.About the pinwheels – one thing that might help is if you deliberately move more into the line before the pinwheel so you have more momentum to the pinwheel to send him away.
Yep, at :19, you never really said tunnel (maybe quietly once and really early) and then you turned and left – he was correct, pay up. LOL!). Think of it differently: if you did not say tunnel there, and did the same body language cue – would you be mad or surprised if he carried on straight away to the tunnel out there? Yes, you would LOL! So be sure to cue the line to the tunnel and donât just leave.
More obsessing on to spin or not to spin: At :45 he is jumping past the big rotation because it doesnât mean collect, same at 1:08. So he can also read the 8-9 line on just a decel and lateral motion, definitely worth it to try and see!
And part of the fallout of using the spin where it is not needed is that when you really need it, you have to really exaggerate it: at 1:33 you end up rotating too soon and moving towards him to get the collection, so he doesnât get a commitment cue and pulls off the jump. I think reserving the rotations for these types of tight turns only and not using them for the softer turns will make it all easier.Nice work here! Let me know what you think about the varying degrees of turns!
TracyTracy Sklenar
KeymasterGood morning!
It was fun to see the differences in the handling choices here! I slow the video down and time it from point to point, which gives me a good idea of which is faster. With my own videos, I use iMovie to get the side by side and overlay comparisons.
First run – you were definitely letting him rip here! He had a couple of tiny questions – call him sooner on the first tunnel (he was surprised by the tighter exit) and a little off balance in his jumping on 6 and 13 because he might not be used to being left in the dust by the momma haha!
It timed it overall and also timed the elements: letting him rip was faster. The pinwheel line was abut identical on the clock – but he had the jumping question at 6 which slowed him down, so when he gets used to that then he will be faster. The 8-9 soft turn was a little faster and the wider wrap turn was a couple of ticks faster (I time them in slow motion to be more accurate so it is hard to tell exactly how many 10th faster it was – but significant enough that it is good to know!!)Sequence 2 – the âlet him ripâ turn at 4 appears to be a tiny bit faster then the collected turn on the original run, but that is the type of thing we would need to keep watching and timing to be super sure. The FC back to the tunnel was definitely faster than the collection to the spin and RC there. Just be patient on the send before it, so you can get commitment. You can still easily get the FC (or a Blind which would work there nicely too!). The FC was not toooooo much on his line – I do like to put tight turn cues right on the dogâs line so they drive right to the turn, as long as we get the heck off the line when the dog needs it (which you did, he did not seem to bubble out at all).
Really nice sequence 3! He totally remembered the forced front cross there and the rest looked really strong. You had your verbal and arm and a big connection to get a great turn out of the 8 tunnel even as you continued to move to position! I think the bar at 10 was a handling choice error: As you sent him at 1:30, you then did a post turn on the exit (facing the tunnel for a heartbeat) which cues a different (more extended) jumping effort than the line to 11. I think a rotation/spin after he passes you on the way to 11 will get the turn info sooner – he saw the line while he was jumping and hit the bar trying to adjust to the different turn.
Great job here! Let me know what you think!
TracyTracy Sklenar
KeymasterGood morning!
I am caffeinated and not jet lagged, so I think I can explain it better now đ>>
âwe want him to chase the line of motion even if you are not connected and even if he canât see the next obstacle. Let me know if that makes sense.â
Iâm not sure if I think that makes sense. Does it mean the same as âwhen in doubt, chase the line of motionâ?
It seems like, if I put him on a line, then I want that line continued and not, necessarily, my current motion. Arenât we doing a lot of that?>>What he was doing in the drifting spots was that he was not driving on the line, he was slowing down and staying wide til he saw an obstacle. The thing with those two spots is that the next obstacle is not immediately visible (the tunnel after the wrap and the 270) so we need him to run fast on the line you are putting him on, even though there are no visible obstacles at first. That is what I mean by chasing you motion: when you turned him left for the 270 over the 9 jump, we want him to trust that an obstacle will appear there soon and run hard that direction, rather than drift and look at you until the obstacle comes into view.
It is kind of like driving 75 on the interstate because you know that your exit is going to appear at some point… versus driving 45 with your blinker on, because you canât yet see your exit.
Let me know if that makes more sense?
>>On sequence 2: âSmall detail: try to send and leave on the tunnel #5 (post turn) rather than decel and spin.â That is an interesting observation. I didnât so much âspin the tunnelâ as âthis seems like the easiest way to move from where I was to where I wanted to goâ. I donât tend to do post turns, so that may be why the spin felt natural. I agree and will try to keep that in mind. >>
Totally agree that it is easier fo runs to get out of there with a spin – but donât let the dog see it LOL! So the post turn exit will work, or spinning later after he is in – but that might be slower than the post turn exit.
>>On the FC at 8 to 9: I was already facing him, so the FC is the least handling â it was practically done. To do the blind, I would have to rotate over 270 degrees, not something I do when I can avoid it. >>
It would get set up differently from the previous line – you were setting up the FC, so you got in there and faced him. For the blind, you would set it up differently: send to the pinwheel jump and then run away to the tunnel – connected first over your right shoulder then turning your head to your left shoulder for the blind. It should not feel like you are having to do a 270 rotation because yes, that would be too awkward.
>>On sequence 3: Gotcha. I will try to get the timing done tomorrow.
Yay! this will be fun!
Tracy
Tracy Sklenar
KeymasterAh, sorry! This is where I blame the internet elves – totally saw this and responded and posted, but clearly they ate it HA! Either that or it is sitting on my desktop at home and I never pushed âSubmitâ and since that is now a couple of thousand miles away…. Iâll start over LOL!
On this video, you can see her energy, it is really interesting! I think she went to a more settled energy for sure once she got the partner going. Movements relaxed, pace slowed down. If her normal thing is the big outrun, she might have been a little stressed, a little aroused, a little frantic at the very beginning? I donât know her well enough to know for sure, but the energy was totally different in the first few moments than it was after a couple of reps of the pattern. It was great to see her energy change!
Were you saying âsnackiesâ? LOL! Love it!
I do think she was looking at your hands at first, and then you shifted to your eyes. Thinking about this is in a more stimulating environment, I think that looking at your hands can still be considered engagement (because it is not engaging with the environment :)) So in the more challenging environments, you can start as you did here – continuing the pattern when she looks at your hands. Try to keep your hands still so there is no cookie movement to draw her attention (which is also not a bad thing, compared to the challenges of the environment). When you added the toy – i think it is also fine to look at the toy instead of eye contact at first, because it is still a form of engagement (and eye contact might be really hard – kind of like the dogs that stare at the first jump in agility on the lead out rather than look at the handler). With the idea of keeping the pattern going and high rate of reinforcement, in the trial environment you might not get to waiting for eye contact, you might spend several sessions letting her offer engagement by looking at you hands.About fighting for engagement – yes! I train that separately – partially at home, with zillions of rewards for random eye contact moments with no toys/treat/âworkâ present in the environment. And, I also play a game called âFind My Faceâ where we teach the dogs to seek out our face (I am sure you could have figured it out from the title hahahaha). I can dig up some videos of that if you would like to see.
You are in a trial environment this weekend, right? I am excited to hear how it goes!
TracyTracy Sklenar
KeymasterHi!
Yes, there are a lot of words on this one đ
Jump 2 should be a backside, which is probably why it felt so difficult.
To get it as a front side with the blind, just use a little more deceleration and stay more on the front side of it to get tons of collection. I think he was reading the blind really well, especially the last one at :58!!!
To get the push to 5 more easily, use Nuptseâs distance skills by sending him to 3 and 4 so you can meet him at the exit if tunnel 4 and use connection and position to show the 5 backside. You did more of this at 1:02 but you can use the distance sends even more so you are there more easily.
On the 8-9-10-11 line, you took the wrap lines – it worked but it is the longer path which also means slower and more difficult for him. Something to try on this is the slice path over 9, turning him to his left and doing the 270 to 10 – that is harder for you LOL! But easier and faster for him đ A blind cross (or front) between the 8 tunnel and 9 jump will get you there in time to send to 10 from your right side.Great job here! Let me know what you think!
TracyTracy Sklenar
KeymasterGood morning!
One of the things to play with is timing as you drive in and out of the lines – it is such a delicate balance! I think the line you drove 1-2-3-4 was really strong – and the spin at 4 can start sooner. He made a takeoff decision at :13 before you had started the decel and rotation, so he had to adjust after landing there. Start deceling when he has exited the tunnel so you care rotating before he has arrived at the jump. I think the timing was better on the 2nd run but he was also melting from the heat a bit. In crazy temps, I am either out there at dawn to get more than 1 rep, or I do one rep and give the dog a long break so they donât melt đ
You got really quiet after tunnel #5 on the first rep so he went into handler focus: slowed down on the tunnel exit and missed 8. You talked to him more on the 2nd run and supported more, and that helped. He doesnât like quiet đNice work Fingers crossed for cooler weather!
TracyTracy Sklenar
Keymaster>> To answer your question, I do 1 or 2 FEO runs every trial she is entered in and we always use a toy as a reward. She goes crazy, she gets so fast and her eyes get all crazy itâs so fun to see!! I had fixed her weaves this way but they are getting iffy again. I have only used the toy as a reward on the start line twice. It feels very clumsy I donât think Iâm doing it quite right.>>
I think maybe the gap between the FEO and real runs is that maybe she doesnât really understand where the reward is and how to work without it present, in that environment. During your FEO runs, is the toy in your hand the whole time? If so, that is where we start: with the games where she learns to run and play without the toy in your hand. That starts with one simple trick and over time, builds up to course running. Does she tug on her leash? That is the easiest way to get her to understand the fun of running in trials without a toy present.
On the video – entering the gate and rewarding engagement is an excellent first start! This is why leash tugging would be great – you could reward her with the cue to tug on the leash. To help transition this to trials, I would also play this with the toy(s) you use for FEO runs. I know AKC has some rules about the toy not leaving your hand and that is limiting, so to truly make the transition you should make a few side trips to UKI trials where the toy rules are less restrictive.
Keep building this game in different environments! I also play this game as an NFC (UKI) game – in and out of the gate (the judges allow it with a toy) and also a lot of UKI trials have a food reward box where you can use food like you did here.On the 2nd video, she is doing well with the pattern game. 2 things to be careful about: either stand still or walk back and forth to a destination, I think the back and forth here was causing her to watch you more (and think about the environment less) – which sounds like a good thing but it is not LOL! In a more difficult environment, the cue of your movement will not be as strong so we want Winn to do all the work here and not watch you as much during it. And the other thing is to try to keep your hands stationary: try not to move to the treats between reps as much – tools one, reload, then let your hands get quiet (she was watching the hands too). If your motion is quieter, she will take a moment to process the environment and then look back at you, which is what we want her to do đ
First video – because she is sensitive to being in the trial ring, if something goes wrong: donât stop or mark it, just keep going. At :12, the send to 5 went wrong and you stopped and marked it. It deflates her, so I think just continuing is the best thing. It was handler error, so just keep going. When you sent, you pointed forward to the jump which closes off the connection. Now, the dog training side of it is that she should really take it anyway when she is that close to it – so I think more Lazy Game is on tap for her, she can alternate turns with her little sister đ
The 8-9 turn looked good! Because that line is so easy for her, it makes sense that sending past it to 5 wold be harder – so giving obvious cues on the bigger sends, really exaggerating them, will help.
The spin on 11 started when she was already in the air, so lock onto the tunnel exit so you can start moving into it as soon as she is out of the tunnelThe training of the pinwheel send went well, nice thrown rewards! Be sure to keep moving while you do it, so she commits even when you are moving away. And then you and she executed it perfectly on the 2nd full run. Yay!!!
So take a look at the 11 turn – on both runs, you did the spin while she was in the air so she slipped a little on landing, adjusted, then kept going. So that is a good one to play with: seeing her exit the tunnel and then begin moving into the spin so she can collect before takeoff. Sequence 2 has an option for that as well (on the #4 jump).Great job! Let me know what you think!
TracyTracy Sklenar
KeymasterGood morning!
She did well here! The best part was the focus and tugging in a relatively new place. And she was super tight and fast around the wings, I donât think she had any trouble with all the countermotion. After you get the toy back and before you send her, make sure you are facing the right way (with your back to the wing) and standing up – yo were getting sideways and bending over. The other thing to practice on this game are you wrap verbals. You were using her name and a go, so you can replace those here with your wrap verbals.
On the 2nd video – you had your wrap verbal going at the beginning, yay!! I think your position was what was causing her to question if it was a left or right turn on the first wing – you were sideways, so she might have felt it was dealerâs choice LOL! She chose a left turn (you were a little too quick to move away on the very first rep – I donât think she was chasing the toy, I think she was moving with you). When you switched sides and went to the other wing, you were still a little sideways and but cued a left turn, which she did easily. That leads me to believe she is a lefty đ So when you work these, place yourself more so the wing is behind you and you are sending her backwards – and be really obvious and patient with the right turn sends, in case she has a harder time with those.
Nice work here!!
TracyTracy Sklenar
KeymasterHi!
Nice work on these too! The speed with the tunnel definitely adds more oomph on the go lines! She was head checking a little tiny bit when she landed from the first jump but I think that will go away with more experience
Good FCs too, very nice mechanics!!! I liked the timing of the 2nd rep better, you were really timely with the decel! She is collecting but not always controlling her hind end, it was skidding out a bit. That will get better when she is more physically mature: core strength and muscling will help that when she is more adult – she just had baby body action there đ
Hmmm, on the rear crosses… either she is a lefty, or she was loaded with a lot of value for turning left for the go and the wraps, or she just needed a rear cross reminder. I thought your cues were pretty strong – yes, you could have driven more through the line to the RC jump on the first rep, but I thought you did on the 2nd rep – but she was looking left. The RC to the left reminded her and then she was great on the RC to the right! So consider trying RCs first next time to see what she does when there is not as much value to the left.
I loved the first backside push! Nice! On the 2nd rep, you had a really arm at 1:32 which turned your shoulders to the front, so she took the front (It was not a reduction in pressure, it was the high arm). Remind that arm to not go above your shoulders đ The high arms end up breaking connection and changing the line of your shoulders. You got it on rep 3 by moving closer to the wing, but you can get it from further with a lower arm Ike on the first rep.
Great job here! Let me know what you think!
TracyTracy Sklenar
KeymasterWheeee this looked good! Having 4 inverted actually made it harder LOL!
I think the whole opening looked great (1 through the weaves). You can try to turn sooner and call sooner to get a tighter turn on the exit of #4, but he didnât look at you or break stride so I donât think he had a question.After the weaves, you stayed at the #10 tunnel too long (:22) to help him see it… so he smoked you at #12 at :25. So – show him that tunnel then trust him to take it so you can leave. And then when you leave, leave directly towards #13 (your first running line was towards the 11 jump which set a really straight line over 12. So we ca get you further ahead and closer to #13, both of which will tighten up the 12 turn. That was the only spot that we can smooth out, the rest looked great!
Let me know what you think!
TracyTracy Sklenar
KeymasterHi!
Ah, air conditioning! I am jealous! At this time of year, I train at dawn to be able to avoid some of the heat.
Transition Game – I think I was using a 6 foot leash because it was the first one I found LOL!! But you can do it with any length of leash, especially whatever you would use at a trial.
I like that you waited for eye contact – makes is easier to fade the cookies. I was literally typing that you can also have the magical cookie hand behind your back to make it even clearer – and then you put it behind you back. Great minds, and all LOL!
He was perfect here of course, so now that he is learning to recognize the pattern, we can plan to take it into other situations: try it at a trial when things are quiet, and if it goes well, try it when there are dogs running. You can drop the cookie down by your feet if there is not enough room to toss it. The game can ultimately serve as a way to keep him breathing and calmer before entering the ring, so he doesnât go into a state of arousal that is too high.Skills: this is why I love this game – we see where the processing becomes challenging for the dog. Yes,there was a narrow range n the easy versus hard for the sit! So ramp up the motion very very slowly, so he can be successful (failure here doesnât help because it adds more arousal… and with arousal being the issue in the first place, it is better to teach the processing in lower arousal for now. The over a bunch of sessions, you can build to running (or jumping jacks or anything nuts) and then I suggest we apply this game to your tunnel threadle (or any verbal skill he is having trouble with). Back in Chicago in May, you mentioned that he was having trouble with verbals in arousal – since you and a couple of other people mentioned it, I decided it would be a great topic for class đ
His say it grumbles were SO FUNNY and that is also a useful trick: you can get him into more of a trial-like state by having him bark a bunch of times and then run a course – this can help with the tunnel threadle arousal issue, because it is hard to reproduce trial arousal at home in training.Sequence 1: the video stand is AWESOME! Great view for obsessing oops I mean timing. đ¤Ł
First run – you were not the only one to have this off course with a bigger dog! At :16 he is taking off and you were just starting the turn, and relatively quiet verbally (there was one Enz). The 2nd rep was totally different there at :28 – earlier turn of shoulders and a lot more talking: âEnz come jump rightâ. He looked great đ
The 8-9 right needs a slightly earlier lateral motion away at :35 plus I think more decel.
The wrap at 11 was a bit late, he had already made a takeoff decision when you started the rotation – on a shorter distance, you might need to be ready to rotate as soon as he exits the tunnel.
At :41 he drifted for a long while (in dog years) before coming back to the tunnel line. Hmmmm…. yes, you can be sooner and more connected. But – I donât want him to drift out and wait like that, I want him to hurry back to your line of motion even when your connection is not perfect. He also drifted wide after a good collection cue on the training video, when you were good but not perfect on exiting the spin there. Training ideas on that below.Training:
Good job working the wrap collection, the earlier cue really made a difference. To get rid of the drifting – yes, be more connected and sooner on the tunnel cue. But – we can also train him to just drive right in, for those moments when perhaps you are not perfect. You can do the wrap and then instead of running towards the next line, just move away to a line and call him urgently but do NOT connect đ Maybe watch him a little peripherally – and when he runs to you: MASSIVE rewards. Motion is the main thing here and we want him to chase your line of motion. He was not chasing it until he saw the next obstacle or saw the great connection (which you were doing in the training moments) but we want him to chase the line of motion even if you are not connected and even if he canât see the next obstacle. Let me know if that makes sense.The 4-5-6 versus 7-8-9 is definitely tricky! The cues can be different but also.. at :45 he was drifting (which took him to the off course) and not driving in.
So first, the handling:
For the 4-5-6 – a big send to 5 and a big loud cue for it (this is a good place for a general jump cue because it is somewhat extended but not a GO and also not really a hard right.
To make 7-8-9 look different, use your right verbal and I also like the brake (opposite) hand. But do the lateral motion to 9 basically right after he exits the tunnel – you were tending to wait til he was committing to 8, which also means he will commit in extension.You shaped it at 1:02 with pressure on his line near the takeoff which really helped – but it puts you in a position that might be harder on bigger courses and also might show a backside line. A spin is an option too, but mainly as a last resort so you donât end up spinning all the things đ
116 and 131 was sooner lateral motion 141 was a very clear send to 5, so the elements when separated worked really well! It was not quite as smooth on the full run when there was more speed, but I think the best handling was the lateral motion at 1:31 and the big send step at 1:41.
Sequence 2:
Looking really good! You can try exiting the spin at 4 sooner, so you are reconnected before he lands. You were really strong about driving out of the cue and calling the tunnel, so he did not drift there.
Small detail: try to send and leave on the tunnel #5 (post turn) rather than decel and spin. The decel/spin is a turn cue and we donât want to dilute it with extension after it (he did exit the tunnel looking at you for more turn info there at :16, and that little question also costs time when you are trying to win đ )
I liked the FC to on the 8-9 to the tunnel! It would be fun to compare the time that creates versus a blind cross there, to see which is the winning time.
And yes, no worries about the bar, I agree that he was jumping into the wall.Sequence 3: this 1-2-3 opens up all sorts of fun! You did the threadle here.
4-5-6-7 looked good! I think you can send to 7 and 8 more so that you donât need to accelerate to get the FC after tunnel 8: you timed your verbal and starting the rotation really nicely, but the acceleration into it sent him a little wide.
He drifted on the 9-10 at :28 line when you were quiet there. I am going to go on an anti-drift crusade, methinks, to get him to tighten those lines a bit.
Nice ending!Training video – tightening the tunnel brake was good but I would put more motion into it so you tighten it in the context of motion. The drifting went away a lot, when you called him more urgently there! Silence is NOT golden, when we want him to drive right in đ
Full run – really nice! You sent more to the 7 jump and 8 tunnel so the FC on the exit was easy peasy!
He drifted again on the 9-10 line… but you were quiet again. I think we found a trend! Get loud and urgent especially when you cannot takeoff and run, or when he doesnât see an obvious next line.Now for the opening – we talked last week about the threadle opening versus other ways to do it, and seeing which is faster đ This is a good opening to try several ways:
-Threadle
-Small lead out and run into a German
-true forced front cross (with full rotation, no throwback)
– Running into a forced blind (wheee!)You have all of these skills, so I would love to see them and time them, so you know what the winning line is. I have done this for all of my adult dogs, so I can look at a course and let you know what the best options are for them (and starting doing it with the 3 year old dog too :))
>> Well, since Iâm trialing most weekends (Fri,Sat,Sun), resting Monday, going across the state for class on Tuesday, that leaves Wednesday and/or Thursday to work on my Agility University stuff. I donât think weâll get through it by September 1 but weâll try to get a bunch done.>>
Busy summer!!! I love it! I am open to keeping class going longer if folks want to keep working – I wonât start another online class til late September or October, so there is no rush to get it all done.
Great job here! Let me know what you think!
TracyTracy Sklenar
KeymasterHi!
>> Does âLEFT!â mean turn left now or first jump and then turn left? I want it to mean first jump and then turn left, so I am using âjump leftâ as a bridging thing.
For me, Left means take the thing and turn left. I didnât use a bridge because it would muddy the âjumpâ verbal that I use, which is a different cue. I sometimes use the jump as a general commitment verbal when I am leaving on a line and I just want to support the dog – take the thing!
>>Or at least thatâs what I tell myself. I almost NEVER use plain âjumpâ, since if it is on the line I am showing, I donât add in a verbal. So while the plain âjumpâ in theory means âjump in extensionâ, I almost never use it. When I have a straight (curved) exit line, I use âgo on!â: that ends about 50 or 60% of all AKC courses. >>
Even if you almost never use jump, the jump left and jump right will delay the processing because he wonât really make the decision til he hears the left or right, so he is relying on body language at that point (which defeats the point of verbals – we donât want them to rely on body language all the time).
>>I am going to leave the in-in-in and in-switch alone for now. I rarely use the in (except on lead outs in place of a forced front) and I think Iâve seen in-switch once in a training course.
You can leave it alone til Monday, July 19th when Games Package 3 goes live and we look at that darned threadle wrap. It is getting really popular and now I am seeing it on courses where the judges are making it the only option (dammit). So it is time to get it trained up.
>>As Ann Braue would say: irritation = motivation. When I am irritated enough that I donât have those well trained, I will have the motivation to correct that situation. >>
YES! Truth. I think that was originally a Susan Garrett saying, I have a shirt somewhere from a Say Yes camp about 100 years ago LOL!!!
>>I have avoided bringing this to the attention of my in-person instructor. Enzo and I are struggling with challenging tunnel threadles in a state of arousal and we need that right now (well, this weekend, Iâm sure).>>
It does not need to take priority over tunnel threadles! And also, we can add these arousal games to the tunnel threadles, because we need the tunnel threadles to happen when things are super arousing on course đ
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Tracy Sklenar
KeymasterHi! I totally feel the pain of getting chewed on by bugs!
But also – she is insane for that frisbee, I love it!!!! So a couple of thoughts:
Jogging in place and waving hands? No problem for her at this point. She was great here.
She loses her mind a little (in a good way :)) for the frisbee so you can make friz throws be the distraction! Do a couple of fake throws on a row and while you are doing the fake throws… cue the around. That will be pretty challenging, I think! And you can also use the friz on course too, to get more speed.
I also trained one of my youngster to love his teeter with, you guessed it – the magic frisbee LOL! So you can bring it to her class and try it there!
I knew she liked her flying squirrel but she is a wild woman for the frisbee which opens up new ways to get her excited and also to challenge her.
Nice work on these! Let me know what you think!
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