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Good morning and welcome! Thanks for jumping in š
>> Outside the ring Sparky is excellent ā so long as I keep him engaged doing tricks .. wait and run forward full pelt .. spins left right .. warm up over jumpsā¦heās happy. As soon as we enter the ring ā and walk to the start ā different story. He is not happy at all ā¦
We will definitely be working on the various games to help him learn to relax without you needing to keep the tricks flowing the whole time. And the transition into the ring will be a place where we build up his excitement and joy!
>>In Australia all our comps are outside in public fields so anything could have run over the grass at night ..animals .. so this makes it worse for us. I realise that if he was fully engaged he would not put his nose down on the grass but this is what he does at the start line .. once that happens Iāve lost him.>>
Yes – and it could be that his nose goes down because of good smells, or stress, or both. We will be working on nose up and engagement š
>>Another issue for us is āthe leashā ā taking it on and off and then stuffing it in my tights. Pre COVID we had a lead steward who would take the leash to the exit. Now thereās another step so the dog has to wait while we attach the leash to our bodies or hide it so the dog is left sitting doing nothing.>>
Yes- it is really only a couple of seconds but it sounds like he deflates pretty quickly. We will work on adding it to the routines later in the class so that he doesnāt mind the leash moment in the transition to the line.
>>I did develop a routine which works great in training ā¦walk in .. look at Sparky .. nose touch to hand .. remove slip leash and put over my head .. then nose touch again and lead out. I have not been able to test this at a trial yet.
I also use the verbal ..ābreak break breakā whilst I walk in and when I stop use no verbal and Sparky sits ā¦ again.. have not been able to test this at a comp yet.>>Great!!! Question: what are the training in the ring rules in Australia? What is allowed and what is not allowed?
>>In our regular public park which is where I set up a few obstacles to train .. Sparky v happy to sit and wait ā¦ I can lead out at great distances. At training at grounds ā heās not as comfortable when a whole arena is full of equipmentā¦ he wants to go run.>>
This is interesting! And you have rewards in your hands and pockets at the training grounds too?
>>In trial we can only play and have food outside the ring. He will tug for food.
Is leash tugging allowed? Are there training in the ring opportunities with toys?
I am excited to see him play the games! Onwards to the video!
TracyGood morning! I am glad you enjoyed the connection seminar; it was a really fun group of people and dogs š And if you didnāt spill your water in the pre-game, it is time to go to a higher value drink like coffee haha
I this session went really well – he was able to drive ahead to the jump with you running and that was the main goal. And great job with your connection and verbals!!!!!
I totally see what you mean that he was sticky on committing to the wing. I think part of it was that you were sending and rotating all at the same time on most of the reps where he didnāt take it, and part of it was that the MOST LOVED MM was out past the jump and that was causing a bit of distraction to his commitment skills.
Or… both š I thought you were strong with your send cue at 1:05, you didnāt rotate early but he still didnāt commit. So that is the MM distraction at work š You can wait a little longer to commit him when the MM is out there, and that is something that is normal with young dogs: being more patient with commitment cues when they are seeing distractions or in new environments.
You can also reward the wrap with a cookie from your hand (rather than driving to the jump) so that way you can balance the value back to it, even with the jump and MM out ahead.
And that vehicle was noisy LOL!!!! I can see why he looked at it š Great job getting him back in the game, he did really well after that!
Nice work here! Let me know what you think!
TracyGood morning!
I am glad you dragged out the tunnel, this looked great!!!! So much good stuff!!!
I totally see what you are saying about get in and get it being similar. It is hard to change your obstacle names, but it will be worth it! You had it mostly correct.
And since you have all these good markers – try to use your ātoy in handā marker (I think it is āstrikeā for her?) rather than praise at the end of the sequence. Speaking from experience – we donāt want to associate any praise or yes or yay with the come get the reward because then when we praise… then might think it is a LSM and come to get the reward. Ask me how I know this LOL!!! OOPS!!! I love that you are running and making the reward really active (she seems to love it too) so you can be running saying āstrike!ā Then after she grabs it, you can switch to the praise. That will maintain the clarity of when the toy is available and avoid the question of what praise means (generally means ānice job keep goingā)
And one more thing about verbals: WELL DONE getting the directionals out! She was moving really fast and you got all of the directionals in the right place at the right time. SUPER!
One thing you can ad more of is more eye contact and connection. Those were her only questions – especially exiting the tunnel when she was on your left. If you were looking forward a bit, and she didnāt really see connection, she was turning into you a bit before going back out (like at :04 and 1:21). When you had more connection like at :17 and :31, she went straight to the wing. When there was a lot of connection, she was tight on the wing wraps (and on the soft turns) but if you were looking forward, she drifted wide waiting for more info (like at :18 and :21).
So for now, over-exaggerate the connection and look back at her a lot, keeping the dog-side arm back so she can see all of your upper body. You wonāt always have to emphasize it that much, but for now it will be useful to teach her how to sequence.
Great job here! Let me know what you think!
TracyGood morning!
This is all looking good. I am going to take a guess that Dellin thought running in the bigger space was THE MOST FUN THING EVER hahaha! She is already fast and going to get faster – and she is doing a good job with her form too!
On the set point – I think her only real question was she was hitting the first bar (pulled it on the first rep, ticked it on a couple of others with front feet I believe) – which probably means she was just a little too close. Looking at the videos, I think the distance you had her from the first jump at :18 and :22 is the sweet spot for her front feet.
Her form in the gap looked good – you can try 5.5 feet. And… raise the bar š 10 inches for the next rep should be good! Is she seeing any height in her in-person classes?Wind in her hair – yep, Iād say she rather enjoyed this one too LOL! I am excited about how well she transfers concepts from the small space at home to the big fast running – no problem! And she was looking ahead the whole time, so great job getting the toys thrown.
You were correct to add motion, keep adding it to work up to a run. Be sure you switch to a GO verbal though – I didnāt hear a go verbal and it sounds like you were still saying the wrap verbal as she was heading to the jump š
Next time you are in the big space when she is happy with you running through this, add 2 challenges:
– start very close to the wing and stay there til she exits, then accelerate so she drives ahead of you (yo can place a toy out ahead on this one, if it is hard to get it thrown early enough because you are behind her).
– start closer to the jump and send her away to the wing, so you are passing or past the jump as she exits the wing. That challenges her to choose between chasing you or finding the jump when you are way ahead.This is another place you can add a little bit of height on the bar, depending on how much height she has already been exposed to.
The smiley face game went well too š You need more tunnel bags š Things happen very quickly with her on this one, so remember to use both of the wrap cues – you generally had a clear wrap cue on the first wrap but not on the one after the tunnel (or it was super quiet). She did well on the soft left and right racetracks! It seemed like you were not sure how she would do on the left turn race track so you helped her a lot, and she went wide because she understood the line. So you helped less with handling on the right turn race tracks and she was great! Yay!
And nice job with connections throughout!!!!
So for the next smiley face, you can spread things out a little more – more distance, more speed, less time for you to think š>> At the end, I tried the wrap discriminations and she was getting tired and I could not get her to stay out of the tunnel, even when I moved the wing farther away and tried more motion away from the tunnel, but she had done a lot of work by that point and our rental time was up>>
It is the most āintellectualā game so it is possible she was mentally tired – plus she had just had all of that fun running fast through the tunnel. Next time, start with it and see how she does, even if you start with the wing wrap where she turns away from the tunnel. You can also help with some handling like a FC to show her that the wing can be wrapped and the tunnel can be resisted š
Great job here!! Let me know what you think!
TracyGood morning!
What is that green-ish stuff under your feet? Grass? The snow is gone? YAY!!!!It was super fun to see him get to open up outside. He is a fast little guy!!!!!
I agree that a toy or a lotus ball would have helped get him looking less at you, but overall it was a really good session. Click/treat to you for getting the verbals in!! They were all in place AND they sounded pretty difference. Awesome!
Little details about the session – overall his commitment looked really good. You can add more motion – by walking, I Think he was asking if he needed to decel or if he was allowed to explode away. So you can ramp up your motion to support those lines.
More motion will make connection harder, but your connection overall was really strong. There were a couple of little connection āblipsā like at :25, where you didnāt quite get connection on your left side, so he didnāt know which side to be on – you said tunnel, so he drove to the one he was looking at. Good boy!
In those moments, you can just reward him (because 99% of the time, we will see that the dogs ar encore to :)) rather than reset or fix anything. When you reset or fixed, he got REAL MAD and BIG FEELINGS lol!!!! So, reward what he offered, then reset, then try again. And you can totally use reset cookies for the reset moments, between reps or if there is a little blooper. My only suggestion with cookies is to give him a moment to swallow, there were a couple of times when he hacked up the cookie a bit while running LOL!
The left and right turn racetracks were harder for him! He was always correct on the first wing but had questions on the 2md one – so that is a place to ramp up the motion and connection, and even step in a little to help him see the line then throw the reward out past the wing. As soon as he realizes that those lines are correct, he will be flying to them the same way he flies to the wraps and tunnel.
Great job here!! Let me know what you think!
TracyGood morning and welcome back, hope you had a good vacation!!
The dragging toy meltdown sounds odd… since she did well with everything else, maybe just try again in a day or two and see how it goes.
The wing wraps are looking good!! Her commitment looks strong here. You can repeat the verbal more than once – on course, you probably be repeating 3 or 4 or 5 times, so you can totally start that here. And my only other suggestion is to line her up and hold her collar so you have a clean start for each rep – on some of the reps she was facing you or still eating, so she didn’t quite process the verbal as well. Rewarding from your hand on this one will be smoother than tossing treats.
Set point is also looking good! Lots of good stay rewards! Her organization on the bumps looked good, 5 feet seems like the right distance. I couldn’t see the reward, was it a good target? You can add in a stationary toy target next and see how she does. We will go to the moving target (dragging toy) as soon as shebis happy with that on the flat.
Great job here! Let me know what you think š
TracySo something about the transition from toy to game is frustrating her or stimulating her in a way where she gets mouthy. Donāt stop the game, that can make the mouthing happen more. You can reward the toy āoutā by dropping a treat by your foot with a get it marker. Or, you can reward the out by giving her the toy right back š it will all happen very quickly, so have your plan and your treat ready so she really doesnāt even have time to be mouthy. š
Hi! Welcome!! Iām excited for more Roulez fun!
Google didnāt let me open your history – clearly google hates me this week LOL!
Take a look at the games, let me know how they go and we will start using them at trials!
TracyGood morning and welcome! Thanks for the history, it is really helpful. Iām glad youāre doing the find my face games! And from the video, I think that carrying her in does seem to help (and trying to move her by her collar does not help).
Take a look at the games and let me know how they go – we will be plugging them into different pieces of the puzzle in training and trialing to help build up the skills.
Keep me posted!
TracyGood morning!
Thank you for the history, it is really extensive and helpful!! There are definitely a lot of things here that will help him. Take a look at the games posted yesterday and let me know how we does – then we will begin plugging the games into different places so that you can use them to help out at trials. Is he in a weekly class? We can add them there first and see how he does. When is your next trial?
TracyHello and welcome!!! Great seeing you in the Chat tonight!
I love the history, it is very complete. I’m excited – we will be plugging in this week’s games and I think you’ll see a difference pretty quickly. Let me know how the games go as you get started – then we will go through the history and we can talk about where they fit š
Fun times ahead!!!!
TracyHello and welcome!!! Great seeing you in the Chat tonight!
I love the history, it is very complete. I’m excited – we will be plugging in this week’s games and I think you’ll see a difference pretty quickly. Let me know how the games go as you get started – then we will go through the history and we can talk about where they fit š
Fun times ahead!!!!
TracyHello and welcome! It was great chatting with you tonight!!!
I agree, Fever is just about ring ready and this class will help smooth that transition into trial life!! I’m excited!!!!
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Holy WOW that was a great run! Great lead out, lovely connection, and I heard lots of verbals!!!!! So fun!!!!! The future is very exciting <3 ā¤ļø
Hello and welcome!!!
Thank you for the great history – perfect!>>due to space issues
Space issues as in there are simply a lot of dogs in a small space, or space issues as in she might get uncomfortable or reactive to dogs nearby?
All of the other info is very helpful!!! Take a look at the games – I think you will find them easy to play in tiny chunks, in stolen moments during your busy days. I will re-read the history over morning coffee and we can start to plug in which game will be the foundation for which skill š
And NFC is GREAT for when the courses are un-runnable LOL!!!!! And Teresa will be our ultimate distraction š
I am excited to get started!
Tracy
