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Hi Tracy
Did a little more on the Teeter yesterday.
Also did a bit of the Teeter bonus game too. At one point I didn’t notice that the yoga mat fell off, but that still went pretty well.
Week 1 – Mountain Climber – treat platform and some movement
First rep is the first one with any movement in the teeter. Rest are after I changed the location so we could do some different work with the teeter. A little concerned but worked through it pretty quickly, the bit where she gets up from the side we did a few times before trying from the sit position again. I am using a yoga mat a bit as a cushion and also because the ground is too uneven to get a small enough distance for the drop, so I need to fill the gap a bit.
Week 3 – Teeter Bonus Game
Sort of forgot that this was for trained dogs when I decided to do this one. Had done some wider lateral to the teeter work before. She didn’t seem to be bothered by this.
I didn’t notice at first that the yoga mat fell out. She did notice it but didn’t seem to be too bothered by the extra drop or noise.
Thanks
Lori
HI Tracy
>>Wow, impressive work, Todd! It looks great! She looks very confident. Bummer to hear about her tight teres but she should be feeling fine soon.<<
Yes, he did a great job on it, even has an alumnim tube for the cross piece and a platform for the target to be attached. She did great given it’s been a week and for sure hoping she is better soon. Was happy to see the extension on the class – we need it.
>>My only suggestion is to place the reward further up on the board. The reward placement here stops her with her front feet too far back. You can have the reward placed just on the very end of the board, or on a target that is attached just past the end of the board. That way her front feet go all the way to the end of the board rather than stopping short. She was not stopping short because of a confidence issue, she was stopping short because of where the cookie was LOL!
For the next session, change the reward placement and see if she is still super confident. If so, you can then add the tiniest bit of movement to the teeter, so it tips a cm or two.<<
Yes, planning on doing that but didn’t want to change too much this time. Will do that next time. The tipping is going to stressful for ME – LOL!
>>There were 2 videos here but they were identical – was there supposed to be a different one?<<
Oops! guess I hit ctrl-v 2x – only one video.
We did a bit of bang game work but no vid – she is tending to let her rear end go off the side of the teeter away from where I am – can I put something in to prevent that so she doesn’t rehearse that?
Thanks
Lori
Hi Tracy
So Beka is restricted a bit right now as her right teres major is a little tight so no fast/tight turns to the left are allowed to keep from abducting the right leg (can do some right turns). It’s doing better as of her recheck last week and has a recheck next week, but until she is cleared can’t do much of the handling stuff for now.
So this week haven’t done much stuff as was also waiting on Todd to make something for me 😉
Week 1 – Teeter Mountain Climber – Wraps
Todd built a TeachIt for me. This is technically her second time on it as I did a short session before pulling out the phone to tape. Since she seemed to be pretty confident going up it I added the wing for wrapping.
Thanks
Lori
Hi Tracy
<Yes, you have to be 1000% certain that the support will not move. Do you have something other than the light wing jump? Those wings are very light and more likely to move. A more solid wing can work, but I prefer something that is more solid like the teach it I was using, or a saw horse of some sort. We don’t want to to move from under her.>
No, nothing other than wing jumps, I have fully pvc ones I could switch to for now
So, a question about the teeter work – is this going where the video I found on the website selling the teach it is going? using it for the entire training process? I think it’s pretty cool actually.
The actual ‘teach it’ would be expensive to buy with excessive shipping because of the border crossing due of the pvc parts and their size. Wonder if they might sell just the metal pieces….
Do you think a fully pvc one would work for a while? Todd could make me one out of pvc that we mostly have on hand already.
<Was the food already on the target before she got on there – it was hard to tel if you were putting it there beforehand or after she started moving. I prefer to have it there beforehand so she can trust it will be there as she moves up the board.>
Yep, food is always placed there first. While we were working on getting her back up to the end I would give some to her on the way up.
<They have some value for the target based on the strike a pose games, and they have value for 4 on the board – so even if they don’t fully know 2o2o, you can begin to shape it when they offer getting on the end of the board. The presence of the target is part of the reinforcement process.>
EEEK! Forgot all about the strike a pose work! It seems so long ago since I played with any of that. Will pull that out again!
thanks!
Lori
Hi Tracy
<I figured she would be fine with this game when she jumped on the board sideways right at the beginning LOL!>
I haven’t been so sure about this game, and still a little ‘yikes’ about it even now.
Week 1 Teeter – Mountain climber – Treat Toss
Did this this morning before it got too hot or started dumping rain yet again. Had a little issue with the supporting jump moving on the first one that we had to work through before really getting into tossing the treat – the grass is making that a pain, takes forever for her to find the treat – only cut it a couple of days ago and it’s already so long again. Left in all the reps as we worked through things.
Week 3 – Teeter – Love the Slam
Did this at the end of the above session. Teeter maybe 2in off the ground, have to figure out encouraging her to put her back feet on the plank as she wasn’t into that today.
Week 5 – Lazy Contacts game
Just read and watched this one and confused a bit as I think I missed a contact game somewhere?
Is there a game introducing the end behaviour for the contacts? Did I miss it? There have been plank games (mving across the plank) but I don’t recall anything re end behaviour?
From the video I can’t really tell what you are doing end behaviour for HS as the text is going over it a lot and the vid quality seems lower but maybe not a nose touch as there seems to be more pawing of the target? With Contraband is it a nose touch? I think so, but not the ‘traditional’ repeated NT?
Still not sure what I want for Beka other than not the traditional repeated nose touch I taught Ziva and Rayven. She just isn’t as food-driven for all the shaping work that needs.
I am using a transparent target taped on the end of the teeter for the teeter work so I am not putting PB ans sardines right on the teeter to keep the mess down. Maybe use the with a foot target???
Thanks
Lori
Hi Tracy
Now that she is out of season and interested in food and treats again I figured we can get back to the teeter work.
Week 1 – Teeter Mountain Climber
We have done a few sessions, some on a lower height teeter and now at full height teeter. It’s too tall for me to really pick her off decently and she isn’t wanting to turn on the plank (she does have concerns about the height) so I put a table beside it for her to get off. Working for Peanut butter and sardines right now.
Next time will try more of a sit or cookie toss to get to the end of the board before she climbs it.
Thanks
Lori
Hi Tracy
<Only one thing to remember: As you go from the wraps to the race tracks. remember to make the verbals sound different – the wrap verbals can be choppy like you had them, but then make the left/right verbals more elongated like they were at the very beginning – rii riii riii and leeeleeee leeee. Yes, take a breath in there sometimes, but the differences in how ou deliver the verbals will be helpful on bigger courses.>
Yes, I noticed that at some point I changed the way I was doing the leee/riii and not making them longer and only saying them once at times – not sure why, prob concentrating on using the correct word.
<We did early on with the turn away games on wings/cones, so the pups will be fine. Make sure your physical cue is clear first, then add the verbal back on.>
Hmm, I looked through anything from MP 1 and MP 2 where I thought we might have done something like that and only found the tandem turn work – is that it??
See the PDFS now. thanks!
Lori
Hi Tracy
Finally got a chance to rework some of the week 3 countermotion game.
Here are the videos for that. I still need to work on words, mostly the starting and change to the next word, I hang on to the previous one too long making the next one too late. She is definitely starting to tell me when I am late 🙂
Week 3 – Countermotion Step 3
Week 3 – Countermotion Step 4
Week 3 – Countermotion Steps 5 and 6
Question about Week 3 Concept Transfer Straight Lines Four Ways. For the Rear Cross wrap the verbal would be the wrap command but I don’t recall any game in MP2 where we did those verbals with the dog on the ‘wrong’ side of us for the verbal. EG/ DOL and do the wrap turn to the left. I only recall using those verbals where we were on the side of the dog they would be turning to. Did I miss something? Think I will need to work that separately to show her that in isolation.
Oh, one other q – are there no pdfs for Week 4??
Thanks
Lori
Hi Tracy
Went to download the info for week 4 and didn’t see any pdfs? Are there no pdfs for Week 4? Only the videos?
Lori
Hi Tracy
Thanks again for the awesome weekend! Was a lot of fun! So awesome to have you back after the past 2 years.
I snuck in the first step of the Wing It game tonight after the rain cooled things off tonight. Hopefully your flights home go/went well.
Week 3 – Counter Motion Step 1
This is the entire session except for the play at the end, was easier then trying to edit all those little sends. Two mistakes on my part. first one she was facing the last wing she went around when I started my send back for the next wing. Not positive why she didn’t send around the wing on the other one.
Added in the Step 2 and 3 this morning. EEK – doing it I felt like I was moving away soonerr then the video shows on the Step 2 portion. On the Step 3 I suddenly realized part way that I wasn’t sending backwards on the second wing – so only a couple where I do that and I am not a good at the transition from one to the other in the one direction.
Step 2 –
Step 3 –
Thanks
Lori
YAY! You made it to Toronto! Hopefully with everything.
Will try both of those suggestions next time we get a chance. Might be able to do a bit after the seminar day is over, well not Saturday – I expect I will be beat!
OK, I might leave those RC’s until later in on that case.
See you in the morning.
Lori
Hi Tracy
She did pretty well with the tie out this morning. a little confused with me jogging and using her words depending on where I was relative to where she was tied up but think she is getting it. Will bring out a cot for her to be on to start getting her used to waiting there also.
Week 2 – One Step Send and BX to Tunnel
She was awesome! I think I even got all my verbals right, some timing a little off, especially around the second use of the right/left verbals. I used the right/left verbal for the BX to the tunnel since that is what it is. On the breakdown for the BX to the tunnel she was a little unsure, coming out of the sit and turning over the jump a lot slowerr than normal, but in the sequence she was a lot faster. Pretty sure she slipped in the tunnel on the last sequence.
Q – On the bonus RC sequence how do you suggest we break this one down for just the RX portion?
Hope your trip up goes smoothly! See you tomorrow!
Lori
That would take forever. I might try doing a tie out with her like I have done when she has gone herding, she is pretty calm so that might work.
So sad the the young dogs session didn’t get any interest for the seminar this weekend. SIGH.
Lori
Hi Tracy
Think I’ve got it all. I haven’t been running the sequences using the words, just walking. I don’t have a place to put her when we work on stuff and I don’t want her chasing around doing pieces while I do that (no, haven’t really worked on a place for her to wait as of yet – so much stuff to teach them).
Thanks!
Lori
Hi Tracy
Think I’ve got it on those two for the next time.
Week 2 – Wraps
Moved up to 6″ and locked them in place. She did hit a bar or two, one pretty good. This went pretty well overall. A couple of times she didn’t take the jump on the ‘warmup’ wraps but in the sequence was awesome in both directions. I got some timing pretty right on words and on the last one totally messed up the left/right even with verbally practising them before the rep. Been doing that on each sequence to try to get them right.
Week 2 – Blind Crosses and Front Crosses
Snuck this one in a few hours later before we get more rain. The blinds were fun and she read them fine even though I was prob a bit late on them. The fronts – well, late and I didn’t stay connected with her on the one side and she cut in behind me – twice. After the second I just did the wrap to practise the connection. Her first broken start line – so back to some rewarding in place (watching the vid after she also started moving on the one just before). I probably should go more lateral on the loops to make the crosses a bit easier but can’t always do that on course. At one point I was waiting for her to look forward, a dog had been barking at the neighbours and she was a bit distracted by it.
I left one comment in – LOL!
Now she gets a break from jumping stuff.
Thanks
Lori
