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Hi! I think sometimes when they freeze up on the dog walk, it is indicating a confusion as to which is the long board and which is the moving board. Mountain climbers will totally help too – I think having a table next to it will allow for easily getting her off the top of the board. Let me know how it goes!
YAY! Good update! Yes – next step is to go all the way around the clock on both sides. The 11-10-9-8-7- side can have relatively straight poles and the 1-2-3-4-5 side can have angled poles.
Then the next step is for you to add your motion 🙂
Have fun!
TracyHi! I think the Pet Tutor does make a quiet, pleasant beep (at least in comparison to the super noisy Manners Minder LOL!)
You can submit 5-7 minutes per track, per week of video. All of the info is in the Weaves User Guide 🙂
Have fun!
TracyReally nice session here on the Mountain Climbers!! It is never the first rep, it is always the 2nd rep that tells us how the dog feels – he looked good and happy on the 2nd rep and beyond, and was driving up nice and high on all of them! Love it! And doing this game in little sequences is happy-making for him too – very nice. I would stick here at this level of tip for 2 more short sessions, just to really make it solid… then add in a tiny bit more tip. This is really lovely progress!!!!
Tracy
Hi there!
The bang game looks great here: he was really keen, drove to his end position, and it was a nice short session. Yay! Probably took longer to put on your shoes than it took to train him HAHA! More bang game is coming on Monday but basically one thing to add: Start both you and him closer to the end of the teeter by putting your toe right at the edge (bit not under the edge, ouch!) so he is also right at the edge – practically lands in position (rather than stride down through the yellow). This will allow us to add challenge to the weight shift and balance of riding the edge of the board down. He seemed to have no trouble with any of the challenges! Yay!!!
Great job!
TracyHi! Fingers crossed for warm weather ahead so Bindi can finish the teeter! I am excited to hear she is already at a 40″ drop! Nice!!!!!!!
Tracy
Hello!
>>Hi there, hoping as an auditor this is the type of questions I can ask.
Yes this is exactly what you should use the class for!
>>We have struggled with the teeter and have taken many breaks. (she has been cleared physically in 2021 by chiropractor and rehab specialist)
Medical clearance is always the first step! Yay!
>> Went out yesterday, didn’t realize someone had moved the 12″ table so that it was not under the teeter enough to catch up. It was just butted up to the end when it dropped. Before I even knew what happened, she went running over it and it dropped to the ground. It scared her and maybe it jarred physically, she did not expect it.>>
Bummer! But in a way, it was good because it tells us that she is still really uncomfortable with the teeter in general.
>> now I feel like we’ve lost all the ground we’ve gained.
Probably not! But it is a good opportunity to root out and fix the underlying concerns.
>>My plan is to give her several days off (though I’m dying to get right back at it), increase the 2 tables so there is les of a tip and build her back up again. Any suggestions would be welcome.>>
To be honest (which is why you are here LOL!!) – I would just start over. Because she got so worried with one rep that was different, it means we can work through and find the hole, fix it – then you will have no issues in the future. And by start over – work through all the tracks, especially the mountain climbers and downhills. Do it incrementally but with the shortest sessions (1 or 2 reps) and large quantities of highest value rewards (can be a favorite toy or activity, it does not have to be a cookie! Or it can be a full meal)
>>She has no problems stepping on it to slam it down, it’s when it’s going down with her on it that she doesn’t like. It might be a foot up off the table and she’ll reach up and bring it down and hop on.>>
Sounds like it is a driving across the moving board thing, which is addressed in the uphill and down hill tracks (especially the uphills, I am not sure if she has ever really done the entire mountain climbers progression?)
The other thing that is different about mountain climbers is that it provides more of the actual visual of the edge of the teeter hanging out in space, with no table there as a visual aid, if that makes sense. It is like running up a cliff and not seeing what is on the other side LOL! So I really think that will help her.
Let me know what you think!
TracyHi!
Yes, he was not super keen on the downhills. Of course, there is a normal up-and-down progression each time we add a challenge or change, but I was watching to see what might have been making him feel “meh” about the downhills – I think it was the bouncy bouncy clatter of the board behind him as he was at the MM. It was really whipping up and down a few times behind him.So to fix it – You can do the downhills to the MM with the MM closer so he stays all 4 on the board (which will stop the bouncing) and you can also grab and hold the board so it doesn’t bounce around for now. I also suggest towels or a mat under each end to dampen the noise and reduce whip for now.
Eventually he will be fine with it, but he was a little “what the?” with the bouncy bouncy right behind his butt. The uphill has no bouncing like that – and it was REALLY cool to see him offer it even when he was not totally comfy with the session. And yes, it was smart to go with offered uphills!
When you switched to the toy – that went better because the toy is stimulating AND if gets him off the table and therefore further from the bouncy bouncy whippy whippy activity behind him LOL!!!! So you can keep the toy involved and even let him run right off the end across the table. And he can get rewarded for running across, and then again when the board moves & clangs to reset.I think he is fine with the one reset movement and noise, but on the downhills the board was doing several and he was not totally comfy with that. Not freaked out, but just thinking it was weird. So try reducing that and I think he will be fine 🙂
Let me know what you think!
TracyEEK!!!! That is nuts! I am glad you are on the road to fixing it. I had the same thing happen with pole 9 of my channels – rusted in position. Grrrrr! Fingers crossed for warm weather and easy times ahead 🙂 I am looking forward to seeing Bindi weave!!
Tracy
Helloooooo! And welcome to you, Fever and Callie!
I think you will find this a really fun progression, since he already has an understanding of it and value too. We will really emphasize the angles of entry – if you have 2x2s, I suggest doing that part specifically for the collection to enter because you can reward the entry so quickly (also in the channels, I put the Manners Minder at pole 3 to get that started, it helps immediately. And Miss Callie can join in for the ‘stay in all 12’ games which we will be doing with some proofing too LOL! I am excited to see you here!
TracyHi!
>>if my sides or clock is backwards let me know 🙂>>
Yes! Your side and your clock looked great! Great job working the angles! Nice mix of hard ones and easy ones.
Question – does the pet tutor beep? It sounds like you are clicking then triggering the PT, it will be easier if you only need to do one. Even if the PT is a quiet click, it will work nicely 🙂 It is fine to click and have the PT remote and the cookies for now, but it will be hard when you start running – I try to only have one thing because I drop things all the time or click something by accident haha!!
He did well here, it is definitely the harder side for him! I suggest angling the poles more open on this side – it is a hard entry! The first pole was at noon here, you can try it more at 1 o’clock and the 2nd pole at 7 o’clock (relative to the PT at 6 o’clock. The dogs all have a harder side and an easier side… the other side is easier for him and this side is harder (my Elektra was the exact same way – one side was straight and the other side was angled open for 2 sessions, then her harder side ‘caught up’ to where the easier side was).
Great job with the happy oopsies – you can call him right back after an oopsie, chat him up, so he doesn’t spend too much time asking the Pet Tutor where his cookie is LOL!
He was definitely figuring out the really hard angles: 3:26 was a big moment! What a hard entry! So was 4:00! and 4:17! Wow! He is a smartie, those are hard entries! So I can see that he is going to figure out quickly, so angling the poles on that side will help him get it faster with a higher rate of success.
Great job!
TracyHello and welcome!
Great session, he is a rockstar! He got the idea immediately. Yay! Because he is so clever about it, you can mix more angles in during each session. You got really good angles on the right side sends here, he was fabulous, so you can also go to the other side and do some left side sends too, to keep working around the clock. He found the hard entries brilliantly here! If the next session with the left side sends goes as well as this session did, you can totally angle the poles for the session after that.
He was offering the weaves on the way back to you after the MM reward. You can reward on the way back because it is a correct offer and we will sometimes want him to weave towards you. If you don’t want him to take them on the way back, you can call him around them. I couldn’t see if he was getting rewarded or not when he got back to you 🙂 And you can use the reward (or the ‘come here’ cookie as a line up cookie too: he is super keen to go offer the weaves, so the line up cookies will help you get him turned and his butt lined up before you send him for the next rep. He was SO funny with the MM, being so patient while waiting for the treats when it took a little longer! Ha!Great job here, he is off to a fabulous start!!!! Looking forward to more 🙂
TracyHi!
>>2×2 in the video the dogs can enter from either sides, right shoulder and left shoulder into the first pole, the entries for weaves are they using the left shoulder to find get into the first pole? Will they get confused if I allow the dogs to enter the 2×2 with both left and right side of the dog? Not the handler on the right or left side, but the dog.>>
Do you mean in the very first video when the poles are at 3 and 9 o’clock? They won’t get confused – it is a value building game with the easiest possible entry. It is such an easy entry that technically the left shoulder is entering correctly, but it is so easy it doesn’t even seem like that. Then, usually within just a session or two, you can go to the angled poles – pole 1 is at 2 o’clock and pole 2 is at 8 o’clock. At that point, it is very clear to the dog that is it the left shoulder on pole 1, right shoulder on pole 2 entry.
Plus, on all of these, the placement of reinforcement really clarifies what the entry is (manners minder or reward target).
Let me know if that makes sense!
TracyGood morning!
He is doing really well here! One thing to add for the next step – angle the plank a little more so the bottom of it is either touching the ground or just above the ground. At the horizontal angle here, he was shifting his weight forward to his shoulders to be correct so angling it will allow him to get on his rear more.On the first video, backing up: He was really sorting out how to use his hind end independently, good boy! It helped him when you were lower in front. And I think the angled plank will be easier to get on too – if he still wants to back up to the side on the angled plank, you can start him closer to it so his back feet are practically touching the board. Or, you can use the long jump boards to create a channel so it is easy to back up and hard to curl to the side.
On the 2nd video – Good boy with the 2o2o! He did run through a couple of times when you were really running, but that is fine – you dialed it back to ‘mostly running’ and the was fine with that. We can gradually build back up to having you blast past. The angled plank will make it easier for him to weight shift back and almost slide into position – you can reward him lower to get his head lower too, that will help weight shift: try to get all rewards right between his paws as close to the ground as possible. The toy throws are good for that, and you can also toss a cookie to his paws. When you go back to reward him, he will happily try to assist in the cookie delivery by raising his head to meet your cookie hand – but you can still lower the cookie to his paws. Then he will just anticipate the lower reward and keep his head down. The lower his head, the more the weight shift, the faster he will run across the board.
Great job here! I am looking forward to beginning to combine some of these game!
Tracy
