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  • in reply to: Taq and Danika #65526
    Tracy Sklenar
    Keymaster

    Good morning!

    Most of the sequence work went great (after she got jump 2)! So since the 2 jump was hard, you can approach it as handler error like we do in the masters-level classes like CAMP: if something goes wrong, keep going then fix it on the next rep because she is likely reading your info correctly (she was 🙂 ) And if she fails twice in the session, watch the video and make an adjustment so you can get success after that.

    Dogs generally read us correctly on lines so withholding reinforcement can be confusing/frustrating for them – it is best to keep going and then fix on the next rep. And usually it is a connection error from us humans – and that is what was happening here 🙂

    >>She wanted to go around 2>>

    There were a couple of factors in play with that – mainly connection. If you were connected, she got it every time. If you were not connected, she as looking at you for more info so she missed it (including missing jump 1 on one of the reps).

    The connection, specifically, is having your dog-side arm back to her so your shoulder is opened up to her, and your eyes on her eyes. If your shoulder was closed and she could not see your eyes (even if you could see her) then she almost read it as a blind cross to your left side.

    Also, it was hard to see her line up position but she can be angled facing 1, to put her on a straight line to 2 (2 is offset a bit so the straighter the line she is set up on, the easier it is to find 2).

    One other factor might be a sight side preference – this was all dog on right, so it might be easier dog on left. But we do need the skill on your right, so it is worth it to work on 🙂

    I grabbed screenshots so you could see the difference between the disconnected moments and the connected moments. On the disconnection moments, bear in mind that she is low to the ground so the closed shoulder blocked the connection and she could not see the side info. She was looking at you and was not sure which of the jumps to go to – the one on your right or the one on your left.

    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JV4QcT02rBTH5uUWlyMo1ingxGQnIZCgPaxAyxd9oAY/edit?usp=sharing

    So as you release her from 1, make a pretty massive connection (arm low and pointing to her nose, eyes on her eyes, as you move forward) and move forward into the cross.

    As she gets more experience, she will find it on her own and we won’t need to be as perfect 🙂 And you can toss a ton of reward to the landing side of 2, to help her find the line as well.

    >>I tried a toy on the teeter and we got a fail so she may not be ready for that. I also was not always getting the touch behavior so I assume I should stick with food>>

    The teeter session went well!! She had da lot of successful reps with you moving forward!!!!

    You can use a toy to pump her up between each rep. We want her to be pumped up as she learns this, so when she is feeling pumped up at trials she will still be able to do it. For the rewards – when you hopped her onto the board right at the end, she did target position best. If she hopped on too high and had to take a few steps to the end, her head was higher (less targeting). So definitely hop her on at the end.

    And, mix in throwing treats back to her as well as releasing forward. Throwing treats back (aim for the target :)) will help her focus on her target. It is OK if you miss the target LOL and also the ‘catch’ marker is also a release to get the treat if it bounces away.

    You can add a tiny bit ore height now, just a half inch 🙂 so we are gradually adding more tip to the board on this game.

    Great job!!
    Tracy

    in reply to: Ginger and Sprite ( 3 yr old Aussie) #65517
    Tracy Sklenar
    Keymaster

    Hi!

    >>. It’s so hard to see where I’m going and look backwards. >>

    This is true! And that is why practicing is so important, so you can work the spatial awareness of where everything is without having to look for it. Two ideas:
    – think about looking down towards her, as that will open up your peripheral vision more
    – think of ‘marking’ your line off of what you can see without disconnecting, like the edge of a wing or part of a jump bar.

    >>So, pop out 4. If you turn left over 1 and slice 3 from the far wing how do you get 4? Push in the gap to the backside?>>

    Yes, like a serp with a bit of countermotion (like a german but without the blind cross)

    >>I’m not great at multiple turns in a row.>>

    It is HARD! I have done seminars called “Mission: Transition Transition Transition” to work that specific skill.

    > Sprite is not fond of being in the house while I walk stuff outside. She isn’t limping for a few days now. Tried swimming today and she’s a spaz. I’m glad I had a swim vest on her. She doesn’t get to see a pool very often. But, she thought it was fun!>>

    At least she is getting to burn off some energy 🙂 Fingers crossed she has an easy healing process and gets back in action soon!!!

    Tracy

    in reply to: Julie & Lift (Sheltie) #65489
    Tracy Sklenar
    Keymaster

    Hi!

    >>This went pretty well

    Totally agree! She is finding the lines like a pro. You had great connection and serp position as you ran! You can tighten up the jumps more and keep and eye on this:

    >> I thought she was over jumping some on the 2nd jump (set at 6in) but maybe she is just sorting out the angled jumps>>

    Yes – I saw it on the jump before the tunnel at 1:38 and 2:16 (and maybe a tiny bit at 1:02) where she was elevating (pulling herself upwards) rather than pushing from the rear. It might be the mechanics of the lead changes on the line and trying to stay organized with the tunnel there. If it is just mechanics, we can see if latent learning sorts it out (re-visit this in a couple of days) and if not, we can help her. She might also need an adjustment or massage, because adolescents tend to make interesting life choices about body use, so she might have something ‘out’ or a trigger point that is restricting her.

    >>aside for working through some “not sure I can line up” moments.

    At the beginning, it looks like there was a bug or something that she swatted off her face – she held the stay at :11 so you can continue the lead out (no need to go back to her).

    At :38 she lined up but looks like she didn’t sit. You can experiment and see if a cookie in the hand is part of the sit cue in that context? You can also cue a stay without a position (let her choose as long as she doesn’t move) and see if that helps continue to build a great stay without extra pressure on the start line. You can also try the tricks and silly stuff before asking for the sit, to raise her arousal.

    Great job here!!!

    Tracy

    in reply to: Indy & Michelle #65488
    Tracy Sklenar
    Keymaster

    Hi!

    He was a little careful right at the top of that teeter rep, so you can leave it at that height for a few sessions until he looks super happy to go all the way to the end without breaking stride. Maybe he can get his entire meal for one rep 🙂 Yum!

    The lead outs are going really well! Your timing got earlier and earlier through the reps, and his stays & commitment looked great!

    On both the BCs and FCs, you can be standing nearer to 3 (FCs) or running towards it more (on the blinds). That will help him read the line even sooner.

    On the FCs, you got earlier on each rep – you started a little late by doing the FC while he was jumping 2 on the first rep. Then you did it a stride before takeoff at :39… then nailed it at :58, starting right after he landed from 1. Yay! That made for a lovely turn.

    You had a similar timing progression with the blinds. At :28, you were a bit stationary and a little late (the BC started as he was taking off for 2). You can lead out less so you can be running forward into it more – that way your motion will support 2 and you can start the blind now later than when he is halfway between jumps 1 and 2. You did this at :45 and the timing was much better, so his turn was much better too! Then running into it and timing the BC to start right after he landed from 1 at 1:05 was GREAT!!! That also made for a great turn and kept you further ahead.

    >>We are looking forward to MaxPup 4 even though I am a couple of weeks behind in this class!

    You’ve still got several weeks to play and post videos, so hopefully you don’t feel pressured for time 🙂

    Nice here!!

    Tracy

    in reply to: Kim and Sly #65487
    Tracy Sklenar
    Keymaster

    Hi!
    The short tunnel worked perfectly!

    Layering the jump to get the tunnel looked great! You can say tunnel 2 or 3 more times as you are layering then call him as he is entering in the tunnel so he can drive to your line on the exit. This is what you did at the end of the video 🙂 In the smaller space and comfortable training area, it is not that important to add all the verbals but it will definitely help at trials!

    Looking at the blinds: he is reading them really nicely at :18 and :26, but you can definitely add jumps verbals and name calling 🙂 That will also help in the higher excitement levels at a trial.

    After the BC, you can keep moving and he will set up the turn on 4 as you move through the line. You were adding decel there, which cued too much collection so he dropped the bar at :19 when he realized you were moving forward, and looked at you at :28. You can add a brake arm there as you run through if he needs help setting up the turn.

    >> played with the rear cross, which was a bit of a mess and then didn’t get back to it until today.>>

    What was going wrong on the RC in that session? It was looking good today – you had lots of verbals 🙂 and he read it. You might have been a bit too far ahead, and that caused you to get behind on the next line. You can get closer to the 3 jump (backside jump) to set it so he drives ahead, which will actually get you further ahead after the RC.

    Nice work here! Let me know what you think!

    Tracy

    in reply to: Ginger and Sprite ( 3 yr old Aussie) #65486
    Tracy Sklenar
    Keymaster

    Hi! This was a smart way to keep working as her toe heals up! How is she feeling?

    >> I’m not sure I made good choices and think she would be in the tunnel rather than the back side of the jump in front of the tunnel. >>

    I think you made good choices and the plans were pretty clear for the most part (only one spot where I was not as sure). I think she would have taken the backside of the jump! We will test the theory when she is back to running.

    A general theme: more exit line connection needed 🙂 You were tending to exit a side change or fancy move with looking ahead for the next cue… but she would still be behind you on those. Without the exit line connection, she might miss the side change, and the timing of the next cue is likely to be late (because it happens as you exit the handling of the previous jump). Here are more details:

    On Pop Out 3:
    I think this is a good plan! You can see the spots where you can use more exit line connection after the BC 7-8 (:12 and :31) which will set up the timing of the spin on 8. And exit line connection will help her exit the spin better (first rep and also at :33).
    The other place to add more exit line connection is on the exit of 10 so she sees which side to be on (:17 and :37) on the way to the tunnel.

    >>I really wasn’t sure what to do jump 1-2 in pop out 4. Thought about a spin for the turn on 1. But, doubt I got my feet to show the correct line to the backside of 2.>>

    The first run was not that clear, it looked like she might have added a jump. But the 2nd run was more clear for sure! The other option is that you can have her turn left on 1 so there is a straigher line to 2 and 3. Just pretend the tunnel is not there 🙂

    The threadle wrap worked nicely at 3! Be sure to make exit line connection there too – you can also try the slice there, that might end up faster because it is all extension.

    The rest is looking good in terms of the plan! To execute it, you would need more exit line connection 5-6 (:48 and 1:03) and also 7-8 (:50 and 1:05).

    Great job!
    Tracy

    in reply to: Jean-Maria & Venture (Cocker Spaniel) #65485
    Tracy Sklenar
    Keymaster

    Good morning!

    >I think I’ve used “in in” for this in the past. Vs using Come for regular threadle for jumps and here-here for threadle end of a tunnel.>

    Perfect! 3 different verbals will serve you well!

    >>Lap turns / Tandem turns – maybe I misunderstood the exercise. I was intentionally doing some of each kind of turn because the name of the exercise “Turn Aways (Lap Turns and Tandem Turns)” said both.>>

    You were good! I was just noting which one was going on at each point – and what happened when it worked perfectly versus not as perfectly.

    >>Heat index just before sundown the last 2 days has been 107-109. I just couldn’t face it so we’ve taken a couple days off. Hoping tomorrow we can get back out there. When is the last day to post for this session?>>

    UGH the heat needs to STOP!!! I need to buy a bigger property and put up some little cottages so my dog peeps and come spend summer in the mountains – 60 degrees here this morning. When I win the lottery, I will build it with great internet so everyone can work remotely too.

    Because it has been a hard summer with the weather, the last day has been extended to September 23rd. At some point, the heat will break so you can train outside more.

    Tracy

    in reply to: Taq and Danika #65484
    Tracy Sklenar
    Keymaster

    Good morning!

    >>Taq and I took a break which was good for her.

    Breaks are always good! Better for the dog’s body and mind, keeps things fun but making things new-feeling and fresh! And great for latent learning. Think of all the training as a rotation – the games can appear every few days, with plenty of “do nothing” days in terms of working skills. It is a more chill approach to training an adolescent dog. The goal is that when she turns 2 years old, she will be ready to take on anything!

    >>I think I did the tunnel threadles the way you wanted. I swear I was not flicking her in!>>

    You were great! And we will use upcoming games to add more and more movement into tunnel threadles.

    The turn aways looked FABULOUS! The Threadle wrap looked great at :17! Connection, decel, position – all of it was very clear to her. I did not hear a verbal for it… so now you can add your threadle wrap verbal 🙂

    The Tandem looked great too! The Threadle wrap at :31 was not as clear – you did a toy hand switch which made the cues a little late, then you stopped hard and were on her line. No worries… the threadle wraps at 44 and :54 on that side were terrific. YAY!!!!! These are super popular moves nowadays and I am excited she could do them on both sides with a tunnel right there 🙂

    The zig zag looked really good! I think this is a good distance because she could bounce it easily with good form. Next step it to put the toy about 10-12 feet away to get even more power – that might cause us to change the distance but she will let us know.

    >>will be posting a Facebook game to guess how many balls I have…>>

    Hmmmm maybe she wants to play flyball too LOL!!! I know a LOT of DSFs who excel in flyball 🙂

    Bang game is looking good – and it looks like she is enjoying it! You can start to build on what you did on the very last rep (1:45-1:48 approx) of slowly walking forward as she was moving into position, then continuing for a few steps after she stops… that was great! You can add more steps (make it variable so it is not that predictable). And you can add more speed too (but fewer steps, so we are only making one thing harder at a time).

    I loved your mat session here: It was leap-free and she was smoooooth across the mat. YAY!!!! Yes, the plan of just a few reps (at the end of training when maybe she is less spicy?) is great and also change your position to the side (gradually) then add your movement (gradually). We can also build the mat into the end of a ‘channel’ if you have long PVC poles or we can put a bunch of jump bars on the ground to simulate the plank – she will get used to running through a narrow space but without the height of it all.

    Great job!!!!!!
    Tracy

    in reply to: Denise and Synergy #65483
    Tracy Sklenar
    Keymaster

    Hi!

    This is looking great! You basically nailed it on the first run!

    Her forward focus to jump 1 was terrific, even with you way behind her and a chainsaw or something in the background LOL!

    You did a BC into the threadle on run 1 and run 3 and a FC into the threadle on run 2 (you had a bigger lead out so you were not running into it as much, so the FC made more sense). Both the FC and BC looked great and were timely! Yay!

    >>, it went well although I still look like an idiot with the dig/dig backside threadle and I just couldn’t stop myself from going in a circle!>>

    2 thoughts on this:

    A) you do NOT look like an idiot! You handled it with clarity and connection. She nailed it all 3 runs with a tunnel right there (might have been even closer together than when I ran it!) Very clear cues!

    B) you can try freezing your feet as you cue the threadle – that way you can just move again the new direction. That can help you move forward without adding the full circle.

    Layering went GREAT!!!!!! And one little suggestion is to be closer to the threadle jump (jump 7) after the layering. Being maybe 3 feet away from it can set up a tighter turn to it. You looked to be maybe 6 feet or so from it and had to step back to it.

    On the first and 3rd runs you had a front side on the last jump. You can give the ‘here’ cue a little sooner (ideally when she exits the 7 threadle jump and is looking at 8, so she sets up the turn before takeoff).

    And got the backside on the 2nd run – lovely!

    >>We will work on that again before moving on>>

    You are welcome to do it again, but really there is not much here to improve 🙂 You can do the sequences with the angled backside… but use the flat backside instead (like you had it here). That might be a bit more challenging than the angled backside jump. Or you can move to the next courses/sequences because you can work the threadle wrap footwork on those too 🙂

    Great job here!

    Tracy

    in reply to: Indy & Michelle #65462
    Tracy Sklenar
    Keymaster

    Hi! The games are looking good!

    Mountain climber at the beginning of the video and again at 1:52 looked great – he was excited and got a MASSIVE reward on the first one! Because there is added tip… just do one then leave the teeter to go do the other things. It seems like that is what you did after 1:52. Basically, he will do the teeter with a bit more tip, get a jackpot, then move on to something different before he thinks too much about it 🙂 He was thinking a little bit about it on the 2nd rep at the beginning and was not quite as fast as rep 1.

    Looking at the serps – he is doing well, especially when you have your upper body open to him and your arm back – that really showed him the serpy lines in both sessions on this video.

    He had a couple of questions, which were happening when you were turning away from him and ‘closing’ your shoulders away rather than keeping the upper body rotated towards him (feet keep going straight, which you did perfectly here).

    He had the same question at 1:16 and 1:36 – it was unclear what to do when you turned your shoulders away and dropped connection so he was not sure if he should take the jump and it did look lie a layering cue.

    At 4:01, turning away/closing shoulders looked like a pull through the gap.

    Compare to 1:48 and later on at 3:48 where you had more rotation towards him with the upper body, your serp arm was back, (and good feet!) and he had no questions even though you were way ahead on the jump after the tunnel. Yay!

    And I love the serp on the lead out at 4:05 and 4:48! What a great camera angle on gorgeous serp cues! You can knee your serp arm back a bit longer – let him land from 1 (serp jump) and look at 2 before you close your shoulders forward. And also on the serp after the tunnel (like at 4:53) – you can keep your serp open to him while you run up the line, til after he lands and starts to move to the next jump. Closing forward too early (before he turns himself away to the 2nd jump here) could cause him to run past it.

    When you are serping the last jump (ike at 3:56) you can have the arm open back to him in serp position as he is coming over the jump after the tunnel. You don’t need to swing it forward to indicate the jump then swing it back open – your position and motion will provide the commitment cues.

    He had a little question about taking jump 1 at 4:21 . You can rotate more to face the takeoff spot and send to the takeoff spot before you move down the line. You were a little closer at 4:23 which helped, but I liked your position at 4:21. Facing the takeoff spot a bit more will help as you get further and further away.

    The other game here was the contact discrimination game.
    Tunnel versus crate was challenging for sure! That crate has a lot of value!!! He had to think hard about the tunnel at first. A little bit of motion helped him… then tipped the value away from the crate 🙂 He worked through it really well – the ‘crate’ cue was especially hard because he was starting all reps on your right side, which is the ‘go tunnel’ side. So he had to move in front of you to get the crate, which made it a bit harder, but he was definitely getting it. You can have him on the other side of you, which is more direct to the crate and makes the tunnel harder.

    Nice job getting the verbals to sound totally different (TUNNEL versus crate). That really helped too!

    Great job here! Let me know what you think.

    Tracy

    in reply to: Roux & Michele #65460
    Tracy Sklenar
    Keymaster

    Hi!
    It looks like the surgery went well and you are healing up quickly! Yay!!!

    >>Not sure if I should react to bar coming down or not.

    Not at this stage – you are moving differently at the moment so timing is different plus there is sometimes a crutch in the picture (literally LOL), so she is trying to sort things out without the normal motion she would see from you. She doesn’t have a jumping issue, so we can ignore any jumping questions until you are back to full speed.

    >> Had her measured before my surgery and she is jumping 16” now but not much wiggle room to jump 20”. I want to do UKI also so not sure if I should just have her jump 20” everywhere or UKI and ISC 20 and AKC 16?>

    How tall is she? Jumping 20 in UKI and ISC will be easy because there is so much room between the obstacles. Jumping 20 in AKC is actually a little harder, due to the smaller spacing. Ideally she jumps the same height everywhere, and doubly ideal would be 16” everywhere. She is athletic so jumping 20 as a young dog is fine, but looking down the road, jumping 16 for now and then 12 when she is old will help extend her career!

    On the video:
    This is a good choice to work on while you are not running full blast yet!

    You did some layering on the first rep – great skill to focus on for now! She did well – you can tell her to go or out for the line before she goes into the tunnel so she exits looking at that line rather than potentially looking at you.

    As your knee heals, you can do more layering here:

    NextLevel Pup: Layering!

    That way you don’t have to worry about big rotations.

    Rep 2 and rep 3 – here is the bar down on jump 2… yep, we don’t need to discuss it with her. I don’t think she has seen you have a crutch or move slowly. Also, the cue was a little late but you are moving as best you can, no worries.

    You added more motion (and less crutch LOL!) and she read the lines even better. Be sure to make big connection back to her eyes as you exit the FC (like at :58) so she knows exactly where to be on the wrap exit. Without the very direct connection (eyes on her, arm pointing back to her so she sees your eyes) she will end up a little wide as she waits from more info.

    Side note: be super careful with the FC and other rotations on that newly fixed up knee! We don’t want to hurt the surgery knees or have any compensation issues with the other knee. Maybe wait a few more weeks before you do any crutch-free rotations (yes, I am a worrier LOL!!)

    Working the send to the left turn wrap and the flip away to the right turn wrap (1:09 – 1:16) looked great – lovely connection and cues here!

    She has a bar down on the right turn wrap at 2 at 1:21 and later at 2:03 (timing of the rotation was a bit late). Normally I would say you can do it sooner and quicker 🙂 but I won’t say that for now LOL!!! Just avoid anything that requires quickness for a few more weeks. Stay connected and turn slowly like you did at 1:31 and 1:53 on the left turn wrap: that was gorgeous!

    The whole sequence from 1:51 – 1:58 was great! Because your motion is limited, you are emphasizing connection (with low arms), verbals, and position: she nailed it because you were very clear on all of those.

    She bypassed the last jump a couple of times on that sequence (like at 2:10) because you broke connection as you turned forward to throw the toy so she was tracking the toy past the jump. When you stayed connected like at 2:19 (and tossed the toy a little later) she got it nicely. Super!!

    Great job on these! As you wait for the knee to get more healing, you can definitely do the layering game from the NextLevel Pup track – I just checked all the sequences and you can do that without rotating on that knee 🙂 And it will be great training for her, to see when to stay on the line and when to come off the line.

    Have fun!
    Tracy

    in reply to: Beverley and Fusion (crazy heading dog 4yr) #65456
    Tracy Sklenar
    Keymaster

    Hi!

    I think the experiment without verbals is paying off – you are getting really nice lines and because the info is clear, she seems more patient and happy to go find lines. This is great!

    Pop Out 1:
    She was not reading the decel cues on jump 3 (and not using verbals made the physical cues more important for sure).
    A couple of things to do to help her read the physicals cues:

    You were using the brake arm and decel, which is great! You can do the brake arm back to her face as you decel rather than forward to the jump then rotate as she passes you away. That can help her change the line better.

    You called her at :35 and she was not turning until you called her. That is important info that we need to strengthen the physical cue there (and it will be easier when we add back the verbals 🙂 )

    For jump jump 6: at :19 – you had a high arm and pointed ahead, breaking connection… so your position plus shoulders all cued the tunnel she took. Good girl! You had much better connection at :38 and she stayed on the line really well.

    She had a back jump at :46 on 8 – more decel into the wrap there will help but also turning her to the slice line will set up a better line to the next jump and eliminate the back jumping.

    The rest looked really good!

    Video 2 – looked really good – you were emphasizing connection and staying on motion, and the lines went really well!!! Staying in motion while connecting is o helpful for her! I think there were a few moments here where you kept going after forgetting the move or line, but that went well too.

    One detail:

    One the opening line, the BC 2-3 was better than the FC too keep you moving up the line. Just be sure to make connection on the exit. She was a little wide at :24 waiting to see the line, and at :45 you didn’t connect so she dropped the bar on 2 trying to figure out where to be. Everything else was lovely in terms of connection.

    Video 3:

    Nice opening line with the layering!

    At :13 you were looking too far forward and disconnected, so she stayed on her line to the backside. Much better connection there at :24 got the front side easily. Nice!

    I am impressed with how well she got the layering, for example at :29 – :34! Usually we need a lot of verbals for that but she totally understood the handling. Super!!! On the last run you ended up not layering and got the cross to the last line, but you can also keep the layering there and do the big connection you used to create the line. Her questions on the previous reps where she went off course were more about connection and accidental motion to the line you didn’t want.

    Video 4: This went well too! You were wanting to run bent over more here, but then you smoothed that out and got more upright while you ran while staying connected. There were a couple of spots where I think you were trying to remember the course, but overall it went great!

    Be connected on sending her to jump 1 – you were looking at the jump and turning away at :06. Better connection got her to take it at :10

    The more you stayed in motion and connected, the better this went! I was very happy with how she continued on to the jump straight ahead after the tunnel. Yes, she looked at you a little (because we aren’t using verbals and she couldn’t see you while in the tunnel :)) but then she continued going to the jump. YAY!!!! And she got the layering at the end without verbals. That is great!!!

    Since this is going so well… add back your jump verbals now, like Go or turn cues.

    Great job!!
    Tracy

    in reply to: Brandy & Katniss 🏹🔥 #65455
    Tracy Sklenar
    Keymaster

    Hi!
    Sorry for the delay and thank you for your patience!

    Nice work with the Cato board versus tunnel! And the Cato is a great option instead of a crate (with more experienced dogs we play this with a plank). This will also help with the jump versus tunnel discriminations that are so popular lately.

    She did really well – high rate of success! When she was line up between your feet – good job letting her move first. As she gets more excited, she wants to move before processing the verbals, so you can put a hand on her collar so you can say the verbal “place” or “tunnel” without any possible movement from her (or you) until after she has heard it a couple of times. Then let go of the collar (which is permission to move) and see if that helps her get it even when she is really excited 🙂

    Good job with the contact game – doing it right next to the tunnel made it a little harder! And the cats were not helpful LOL but she seemed to be able to ignore them really well.

    If he gets into any 2o2o, you can put her spoon target in – if she is angled, placing it in the center will help but when you were waiting for her to center herself, she was not totally sure and was moving her feet all over. So it doesn’t matter if she is not centered to start the game for now 🙂

    She did really well with you standing up! So you can release, throw a treat, then see if she puts herself back into the position to re-start the targeting game.

    >>I will do a stopped teeter contact, though, so this game is valuable to us even I go with running for the others.>>

    Exactly! Even if you do a RDW and frame, you will still use this for the teeter and it is easy to transfer to the dog walk if you want it there too.

    Great job!!

    Tracy

    in reply to: Jean-Maria & Venture (Cocker Spaniel) #65454
    Tracy Sklenar
    Keymaster

    Hi!

    Thanks for your patience with the delay! And congrats on Ven’s CGC/CGCA/CGCU!!!!!! That sounds like a challenging environment and he was great!

    >>I’m working on either teaching him to line up between my legs (he said WTH do you want) or Come side for right hand. We aren’t there so I used whatever worked for this morning.>>

    Yay! And lots of value for being there, even if you are luring into position for now, will help him be able to line up with those.

    >>For the ketchsker, I used my wrap verbal. Is that correct?>>

    Yes, because it is a plain old wrap for him, even though it is a fancy handling move 🙂 for us!

    Video 1:
    Great job back chaining!!!! And super nice connection shift to the landing spot of 3 – you can drop the reward in right on the landing spot rather than on the takeoff side to build up value for the commitment even with the rotation physical cue.

    Now you can add countermotion so as he is passing you, you are starting to move forward to where the next jump would be (while maintaining that great connection).

    Building up to the full lead out: he had bars down at 1 and 2 at 2:28 were probably him saying What The Heck on the line 🙂 plus he was a little close to jump 1, so you can set him further back (as far back as possible). He sorted it out really quickly and he had no questions on the bars for that lead out.

    Lead out push – he had a bar here on jump 2, but that was based on the timing of the info not on a question about the line. You lead out to the far wing of 2, which indicated a left turn. Then you moved into 2, but by the time he saw the right turn into it was too late because a takeoff decision was already made. You can start your lead out between the uprights of 2 (literally on his line, because you won’t be there when he needs it 🙂 ) so he can see the turn to 3 before takeoff.

    Video 2:

    >> He really struggled with wrapping behind me going right (second video) so please let me know what I’m not doing to support him. >>

    First rep was good, maybe a little stickier than the other side but he committed and turned really well!

    Comparing to 2:15 when he did not take 3… it was your leg! On the first rep, you stepped back along with the connection. At 2:15, you did not step back so he stayed with your feet. At 3:02 you also did not step back. At 4:06 you did step back so he took it (slowly, but that might have to do with the reward placement more than anything else at this stage).

    I went back and looked at your feet on video 1 and sure enough… he committed with speed at :57, for example, when you stepped back. So that is great info: he is reading your feet so be sure to step back to the jump too. It will be even easier when you are moving into this (not on a lead out) but it is a great bit of feedback from Venture that he needs that step along with the connection shift.

    You can drop the reward in on the landing side of the jump on this side too – that will build value for the jump you are next to/pointing to/ shifting connection to, regardless of your feet 🙂

    On the lead out push on this video (2nd rep) – you moved to jump 3 sooner so he turned sooner and the bar stayed up. Yay! You can lead out to that position between the uprights so he is not on the start line thinking about the right turn based on your position on the right turn wing.

    Turn away video: looking SUPER! On some of the reps you did lap turns (facing him) and some you did tandems (facing the line and moving). Both worked well. Time to starting thinking about what you want your threadle wrap verbal to be!

    A bit of boring feedback:
    The beginning had lap turns when you are facing him and not moving – to the left, looking good!
    To the right, looking good!

    When you added the tunnel and motion, they were more like tandem turns because you were moving up the line and not facing him as much:
    To the left – looking good! (Just make sure your right turns on the wings have the right verbal not the left :))

    And yes, he does appear to like the chicken and bacon YUM!!

    As you added more motion, like at 1:54 you can face him longer – a little too much rotation towards him (more than needed) on the tandem to the right. Compare to 2:35 which was great! Moving forward and great turn cues!

    3:05 was more of a lap turn because you were already facing him when he exited the tunnel. It worked well when you are able to be stationary that early after he exits the tunnel. The next part of the sequence at 3:08 should be more of a tandem because you didn’t have time to be facing him as early, so you can keep moving forward through the tandem. The turns at 3:41 and 3:47 were more like tandems (you were moving forward into them), and they worked great. Yay!!

    A small blooper at 4:11 – you were facing him and calling him… but the lap turn hand was not that obvious because it was higher and not really extended to him, but more importantly: you were walking backwards.

    Backwards motion is the same as forward motion so he looked at you to see what to do, and then decided to follow the motion (good boy) and go to the other side of the wing.

    He had one other small question: you were a shade too early at 4:21 with stepping back so your leg almost blocked his line. He was a good boy to slide into the correct side of the wing! Compare to 3:05, for example, when you let him get close to the magic cookie hand 🙂 and then stepped back, so he had plenty of room and flew around the wing 🙂

    Lovely work here! Let me know what you think!

    Tracy

    in reply to: Beverley and In Synch #65453
    Tracy Sklenar
    Keymaster

    Hi!

    Thanks for your patience in letting me get home!

    For the serps – the hardest part for her was finding the jump after the tunnel on the first side (dog on right). When you changed sides, the serp line was more on her line from the tunnel exit so it was much easier!

    Your connection was really strong so now we need to add more of your motion. Serps are a motion plus upper body cue, so she reads it as a whole line and so you aren’t standing still –

    The angles of the jumps at 1:50 are what she needs to see for now, so she can generally see the serp line and so we can add your motion (and also calling her out of the tunnel will help, so add that verbal 🙂 )

    On the next reps, you flattened them out and it was too hard for now and you ended up standing still.

    Your connection and foot position at 2:40 were good! Now the next steps are to open up the angles like they were at 1:50, and also spread the jumps apart (we have them close for a jump grid but not for true serps). That way you can add movement (just walking for now, so you can maintain that connection). Since we are adding movement, feel free to open up the angles as much as needed so she finds the line while you are moving. If you catch yourself standing still to get the behavior, then the angles are too tight and you should open them up. Motion is top priority on the serps (and connection is the next top priority).

    Great job! Let me know what you think!

    Tracy

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