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Good morning! This is going to be fun!
So far, I think the dogs will pick this all up easily so the contact training will be more “involved” and hopefully the weaves will be more straightforward. And being on a different rotation was deliberate so that none of us lost our mind 🙂>>Maybe his weave cue will have to be “Tracy! Tracy! Tracy>>
OMG that made me almost spit my coffee out lol
>>Training and editing videos for three online classes is crazy
If your sessions were relatively straightforward, you don’t need to edit – just slap them up online and I can scroll through the resets and stuff. Editing takes *forever* LOL!!!
>>And I can’t even begin to imagine the challenges this creates for you!!)>>
Time management, 4 dogs working as demo dogs so no one gets over-worked, lots of coffee and many prayers to the weather gods haha! I am actually a few weeks ahead in the filming just so it can be progressive and I don’t go too nuts LOL!
On the video – he is off to a great start! You can add you interim cue for the sends (mine somehow is sounding like a space laser noise) so he knows when to start. With the poles at 3 and 6 like they were here – add motion now, he seemed super fine with the sending. And I know I posted the threadle side entries as a separate game, but I bet you can mix them in here too.
If motion goes well… angle the poles after that. I think it will be fine!
In these early 2×2 stages, you can probably add motion in to the same session as the sends while the poles are at easy angles. Then his response will guide you as to how quickly you can move through the rest.
Great job here!!!! Looking forward to watching him learn!
TracyGood morning! Really nice start here!!
He was on your right side for these reps when he was on the 11, 10, 9, 8, etc side of the clock. That is fine because it is the threadle side entry (where he turns away) and he did well with finding the poles. But also be sure to get him on your left side to line up for that side of the clock, because that is the challenge he will see very commonly on course. Cookie bribes work beautifully to get him on your other side if he is used to working mainly on your right – my dogs prefer to be on my left so I just lure them with a treat to get them on my right 🙂 The threadle entry side is actually harder so I am confident he will find the entries easy when you start him on your left. You invoked the 2 failure rule at about the 7 oclock entry, good adjustment! It looks like he is really solid until you get to about 7:30 on the clock like at 1:34… and that is great! Take your time working on the really hard entries like that 7 o’clock and also when you tried it from 6 o’clock – it is possible that it will be easier if you start him on your left for those entries so he sends forward to it more rather than send/turn away. But those entries are not as important for now – I am really happy with his other entries!
at 1:34 he got it more like 8 oclockAt 2:34 you switched to other side of poles (for the 1 o’clock, 2 o’clock etc entries) with him onyour right, and he did well! I think you only did one rep on that side – so for your next session, start with him on your right (the send side) and work around the noon, 1, 2, 3 o’clock entries and see how he does. Great job here! He is off to a fast start!!! (The invoice is coming, I wanted to watch videos first :))
Tracy
They both have strengths and weaknesses so I am going to work both! I think channels might get slightly better independence with less training.
Hello and welcome!!! You totally have a working spot! I am looking forward to seeing the amazing FizzLin 🙂
Have fun!
TracyHello and welcome, K and K 🙂
I think maybe we have good timing and your snow has melted? I am excited to see Keiko get weaving!
TracyHi! And welcome!!!
I figured marking the clock would make it easier for all of us haha!
You want to upgrade to a working spot? I will do the math on the discount and send the invoice 🙂Have fun!
TracyThe cool thing about flyball is that once the dog is basically trained, you don’t really have to keep training. Sure, you practice sometimes to keep the skills sharp and to practice the timing of passes… but otherwise it is a matter of showing up at the event, competing, having a great time! We need to get you to CanAm! Sooooooooo fun!
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Hi! Ignore my question above about the tape LOL!! I see you mentioned it here and it is clear in this game 🙂 It is working beautifully!
She needed a moment to remember the position at the beginning, but then she was nailing it. I mentioned adding motion in the video above, and you added the motion nicely here! No problem with that. You also got her wilder with a bit of ready ready and physical play, also great to add! When she was more excited, her feet got to the right place most every time (only one oopsie) but her head position was changing. She was watching you more because you were more exciting 🙂 So keep getting her excited verbally and with touch – but move more slowly at first to maintain the great head position (looking forward and down) because it will really help her end position and weight shift on the teeter. You can also toss a reward back to her when she hits the end position as you move past (I say ‘catch’ and toss the treat back to the target). That can help her keep her head straight too (and if my toss is not great, the dog is allowed to move to get it but they still keep their heads down 🙂 )
I see you asked her about the toy and she said ‘no thanks – I am in cookie mode!’ No worries 🙂 The excitement you added with the motion, voice and physical play was what we would want the toy to bring to the session.
Great job here! I think she is doing really well!!
TracyHi! The tape is the target? It looks really good! She is keeping her head low and looking forward AND hitting it with her foot too on some of reps. Nice!! You are super generous with the rewards and I am sure that is making an impact too!
The increase in distance did not distract her, and you added a bit of excitement (a bit of ready, she was vocalizing :)) – which did not distract her, she was still great 🙂Using the same setup, add in you walking past the end of the board as she is moving into target position (and of course be generous with the rewards like you were here, my dogs all want to come live with you because now they think I am too stingy haha!!!)
And if walking past is no problem…. Add a cross! Also, get faster 🙂 Based on what she did here, I think you will be able to add these really easily.
The other thing I would suggest is add more excitement in the form of tugging between reps: tug, do a rep of the game, reward with cookies, release, tug, repeat 🙂 That will challenge her to be able to produce the behavior when she is more excited. I think she will be successful 🙂And if adding motion is going well, and tugging is going well… go back to the easier challenges and add more tip so the board is a little bit further off the ground 🙂
Great job here!
Tracy
Hi there!
she did well here! She did watch you a bit on the first back and forth, then she was all about leaving you to drive forward.
If being a bit careful on this game is her usual, we can change things up to build that first blast of confidence, Here are some ideas:
– now that she is going back and forth, start her only on the end that is down on the table and does not move when she gets on the board (in this video it is the side on the left side of the screen). Having the board move under her when she gets on might be causing her to take a moment to balance before moving forward again. And that will allow you to move the game into the ‘downhill only’ stage 🙂
– you can do one-hit wonder sessions (there will be more specifics on that in the Week 2 games) – basically, you do one single rep for the highest value, most incredible reward… and that is the entire training session. What does she love the most? If it is food, use a mind-blowingly delicious handful of her favorite snacks, or have her go once across the board for her entire meal. If she loves toys: once across the board for her favorite toy, then she gets to run around like a crazy lady 🙂 If she likes activities, you can do once across the board for permission to swim or whatever she likes (when the weather improves :))
– you can get her wild with an activity before the teeter rep, like running through a tunnel or chasing a frisbee – then one time across the board for a high value reward.One hit wonders raise value really quickly and the dogs lose themselves in the excitement – then they start to really drive across the board.
Great job!
TracyHello and welcome! Great to see you here! Glad she is feeling better after the lepto reaction!
>> And I recognize that “I” am the common denominator in those equations.>>
Well, the teeter is the common denominator, we will just blame the teeter LOL!
>>In addition, whatever teeter performances I have gotten in the past…they tended to deteriorate over time (in part because I get antsy on course, and frequently release to early…so I need to work on managing myself in this process as well. Tips welcomed.) >>
I totally feel that! And to be honest, I think the best plan is to train many many layers of understanding, train in the ring, maintain criteria…. then in big runs we can ‘get away’ with releasing early when trying to win 🙂 without ruining things. Then we refresh the layers and teeter performance remains strong! We will definitely work on NOT releasing early in training or relatively meaningless runs 🙂
>>I’ve ordered a new teeter, metal and adjustable…so that I can do more things with it, but it won’t arrive until after this class is complete.>>
You should be able to do this entire class without needing to adjust your teeter (I didn’t adjust my teeter for any of the training :)) We can modify the games to make it work for your teeter.
The video is marked private, can you change to unlisted? I am looking forward to seeing Sundae in action! If she is stopping short of the end, definitely start the uphill and downhill tracks, as those really emphasize driving to the end of the board.
Tracy
Hi!
He looks great here – still confident, fast and happy to drive across the board. He wasn’t lacking in confidence when you sent him, he just wasn’t quite as speedy (perhaps because it was not as exciting as when you were running). So yes, keep working those – you can work it two ways:– put something amazingly delicious down there, then gently restrain him to create a little opposition reflex, then send him
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– you can back chain it! Start him right at the reward and let him explode to it. Then start him a tiny bit further back on each rep, til he gets to the starting point.Because he is doing so well, we can add challenge. You can probably start by taking the blue mat out from the down side to add a bit more noise. And if he is fine with that, you can add more a tiny bit more tip so the downside drops more.
Great job!!! Fingers crossed for a wobble board tomorrow!
TracyHi!
>>I like the idea of clear criteria- chapter has shown me he needs to know the rules and they need to stay the same! I also don’t like the idea of a slow teeter!>>
Clear criteria is much less frustrating – and maintaining it leads to faster performance. Plus, 2o2o is a tried-and-true position so we are not in uncharted territory. We have lots of games and troubleshooting to go to as needed.
>>I was a hot mess express>>
HA! Too funny!
He did really well on the downhill track!! Fast, happy, not distracted by your motion when you added running and the cross. And also he did not look at all concerned about the noise – especially on the crate side of things. That is awesome!!! He liked the wait element, it built up anticipation so he was explosive on the release!
End position – I am excited about how well he is picking this up! Since this is new for him, so you can help him out with a quick warm up of being in front, holding the target in your hand which he targets it with the 2o2o – then go back to having him get on the side. He was figuring it out nicely here so the little warm up will help! Don’t let him try to go too fast 🙂 when he was rushing, his butt was falling off the side LOL! So, for the next session or two, keep things calm and boring. Then if he is doing well, you can add more excitement and motion and challenge him to get the 2o2o AND keep his butt on the plank 🙂
Bang Game –
>>As you’ll see we have some distraction here with a pant-less child, but it didn’t seem to phase Chapter!>>You can totally check “pantless child” off the distraction list now LOL!! Good boy, Chapter!
The whole conversation was hysterical LOL!Chapter was a good boy about finding the board – I think he was not sure if the game was “back up into position” or simply “assume the position”. He did his best when you were a little closer to the board and it was easier to step back – yo ucan even start him in this 2o2o, ask him to stretch forward (but not off the board) then let him step his front feet back into position. Then you can have him come off the board by just a tiny bit, so it is easier to back up onto it than it is to turn around. Then when he has the idea, you can add more distance.
When the dog turns around to get on the board, I reward a little but I do it by drawing them forward to reset for the next attempt. And when the dog backs up onto the board, I have a big party in position. I think that is basically what you were doing, so keep doing that 🙂 He seemed to be figuring it out!
I do think he is finding the 2o2o very natural – in this session and also in your first video he was figuring it out in less than a minute and that is AWESOME!!!!Great job here!
TracyHi!
>>this time without a wobbly board. Unfortunately I didn’t read your second post until just now, and so I didn’t do a very good job of getting her off the side of the board when she was exiting, especially when she was leaping off. But we did do the send, and all of the crosses you suggested, and I thought she did OK – hope you think so too.>>
Awesome! No worries about getting off the board, one more session is not going to make or break it 🙂
This video is marked unavailable, probably marked private? When you get a moment, can you re-set it to unlisted?>>We did repeat these a little later with a board that moved about 4″ up and down – her performance was about the same, but unfortunately I forgot to turn the camera on>>
Ah! I feel that pain! But if her performance was about the same, that is EXCELLENT news! Some dogs are just super confident and they don’t mind the tip changes! It makes teeter training much easier – fingers crossed that she finds this all very easy! So far, she looks great 🙂
Tracy
