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Hi! This is a great list 🙂 and I bet you’ll be able to get plenty of people to help. I’ve posted the demos of how to add in the kryptonite now, so you can build up to having all this going on while he is running. Have fun!!!
TracyGreat list!!!! Start with the happy distractions, so it is all a positive experience. That will also establish the games with BIG distractions, at which point you can move to the distractions that can produce anxiety.
>>He really likes the cookie toss pattern game. He’s like I KNOW THIS ONE AND IT’S AWESOME.
Perfect! That’s what we want!!!!!
Keep me posted on how he does with these!
TracyHi! I’m not sure he will be able to tug on a leash in the presence of the pool. And if he does, it would make it more like “work” and not play. So the easiest thing to do is just tie a toy to a leash and use it all as a toy 🙂 then you can fade the real toy and just use the leash 🙂
THi!
The remote reinforcement looks really good. His facial expressions were pretty hilarious 😂 but I love how he figured it out and was even offering behavior like sits when you got pretty far from the reward station! Yay! And his happy hop when he got back to it was so cute 🙂
You can definitely take this step 1 on the road, and move to the next steps at home.The May events will be here soon enough, it will be interesting to see if they allow FEO in the ISC classes!
In the meantime, you can let his sister run around and play these games with him (the demos are posted). Can you take him new places using the GPS, so he can get stimulated by the arrival then do some instant focus and pattern games. Those pattern games can really help him center himself in situations where he would normally howl and go nuts 🙂
Great job!
Let me know what you think!
TracyHi!
OMG the engaged chill! That is what Promise looks like when she is not moving? I don’t think I have ever seen her not moving 🙂 Note the BIIIIIIG yawn in the middle. Chill is hard, the environment is hard! She did really well 🙂
Great Kryptonite list! Some of these are stimulating, some of them make her anxious – so start with the ones that are stimulating but don’t make her anxious, like the other dogs running or cure friendly dogs 🙂
>>I have also recently been practicing in my yard with engagement while Annalise is also working breeze or Potter. We haven’t progressed to her being able to focus while they go through a tunnel yet. I use distance if the situation becomes to tough.>>
I was totally going to suggest this – I am glad you are already doing it. Yay! What has been helping her? I lean towards starting with pattern games for ALL of these, so let me know if you have tried pattern games with this.
>>I have not done this yet, but I’m thinking of playing my videos of the trials with lots of barking at the house and doing pattern games while it plays. >>
Perfect! Let me know when you are ready for more noise and I will get some flyball tournament videos for you LOL!
>>3. Objects- Pattern games
4. I have an idea of having people approaching the parked car and getting lots of cookies for that. Also, next time I’m at a hotel we need to incorporate the pattern games in the hallways and take some moments to just walk the hallways and encounter random people. I was unprepared at nationals with no treats in my pockets. We can also start walking at the lake front again which is a great place to encounter things and gives the ability to get distance away. Lake front is my plan for small children also.>>Yes – start under threshold so they are NOT close to her, so she doesn’t feel as much need to bark.
>>Other dogs- letting her sniff for awhile, calling her back to me then letting her go sniff again. I need to try a permission to go sniff. I’ve never had a sheltie that had any value for other dogs lol!
This is good! I like when dogs are very friendly! But yes, adding in a permission will be a good thing – other dogs should be ‘neutral’ until cued to visit. Pattern games here too – or a variation of those called Look At That where basically she looks at the dog then at you, without you needing to cue it. You can give her a cookie for that, and the cue her to visit if you want
And the demos are posted if you want to check out other approaches to the kryptonite games 🙂
Keep me posted!
TracyHi!
I suggest a bit of practice with the off leash offered engagement, deciding what line up you want to use, and the remote reinforcement combo games 🙂 And, making a list of the things to remember like the engaged chill, pattern games, favorite tricks, etc so you have all sorts of things ready in your toolbox when you arrive at the site 🙂Tracy
Hi!
How did these runs feel in class? I think he looked really good on the video! It is a VERY good thing when the only thing you need to worry about is handling execution. And air cookies, see below LOL!
He seemed happy and engaged on the first run, even with the instructor behind you! And he was nice and fast on the release! He was indeed on fire with that early off course tunnel – when he runs with that much speed and confidence, you will need to call him sooner 🙂
I think he was great with the people near the ring, he seemed completely focused on you!He was PERFECT on his engagement in the 2nd run – eye contact, focus, and it looks like you had empty hands, too. No worries about the missed jump at the beginning, he just needed you to drive to it for one or two more steps to set the line
Great tunneling at a distance! Focus seemed great! Smart to reward the tire!Run 3, lesson learned – we can’t fake him out with an air cookie LOL!!! He had great engagement but then I see what you mean by him being convinced you had dropped the cookie LOL! In those moments – you can call a ‘do over’ by putting the leash back on, resetting the engagement, then leading out (without air cookies LOL! )
You did a great job getting him engaged but the line up position was a little off center, so he had trouble on the first jump but then he was great!>>totally need those no cookie pattern games. >>
Yes! And if he (or any of his classmates) struggle, there is an intermediate step we can add to fade the cookies. But I think the oopsie on run 3 was more about the air cookie than anything else – maybe next Monday you can do a run without offering a cookie, just praising the engagement. He is very smart and also simply could not believe that there was no cookie in your hand LOL!!! And then the empty clam, he thought you were nuts LOL!!! But that is good to know about the empty clam – it might be more of a distraction than a helper in an FEO/NFR run, so crazy toys might be better for him.
>>And think leash is part of his kryptonite items. I would be happy to put his leash in a bucket at a trial. 😆 NADAC changed the rules during COVID so putting the leash in my pocket was much easier.>>
Yes – that leash drop is a distraction for him, and maybe the leash running grabbing it too! You can work that in class 🙂 That was a funny conversation last night – all the different places to put the leash (bucket, down our pants, etc LOL!!) I have gone to handing the leash to the leash runner in most cases (if she is nearby) before I line up the dog, because it just feels easier and it has forced me to train the dogs to stay with me when I hand off the leash. Maybe NADAC will keep the rule of allowing you to put the leash in your pocket, like AKC does now?
Great job! Let me know what you think!
TracyHooray for no SNOW!!! We probably need enough room for the wind-in-your-hair setup of a wing and a jump about 15-8 feet apart. If that is not possible, no worries, we can use a smaller distance 🙂
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Funny that the sessions were identical in length! And yes, more playtime is a GOOD thing 🙂Watching the video: Wheeee! He certainly enjoyed the thrown toy! I see what you mean about the placed toy not being as fun – probably related to prey drive and chasing it 🙂
On the flat, you can revisit the game a lot to maintain the drive forward with one twist: when you let go of him, you let him run for 3 steps or so before you also start to run.
He did well when you added the wing in too – one twist for ya there to get even more giddy up happening:
Throw the toy past the jump as the first order of business (you will probably have to hold him) then convince him to wrap the wing, then race to the toy. Yes, he will have to turn away from the toy you just threw to wrap the wing, but he will be on fire for the toy 🙂The other set you can add is getting very very close to the start wing and stay there til he is almost completely done with the wrap… then race to the toy you already threw. That will get even more driving ahead in prep for the rear cross.
Yes, there might be “anticipation” moments where he skips the wing wrap and just heads for the toy, no big deal, just have a laugh and try again 🙂
>>I plan to keep doing this throughout the week without including any drills with rear crosses until he’s really getting the driving ahead.
Perfect! Rear crosses will be easy to add in. For now, we want him to learn the joys of being a wild man out on the big lines and leaving you in the dust 🙂
Great job!
TracyHi! I am excited about Zanee Camp!!!!!! That will be so fun!
You can take the game away from the running contact mat for now and train the toy-grab cue more. You can put it on the ground, ask her to do a behavior she already has a good history with (like hitting that prop with her feet, from the very first MaxPup class :)) with the toy on the ground, and then using your get it cue to tell her she can have the toy. That might clarify things very quickly for her, and then you can bring it back to the running dog walk mat 🙂 Let me know how it goes!
TracyOh wow, the race tracks look great! She seemed pretty balance in both directions now and really speedy. The commitment looks much stronger – and great job to you for rewarding after the wings and not after the tunnel 🙂 I think she is ready for the Diamond game!!! Great job!
TracyHi!
The serps and front crosses went really well!! Yay!
All of the FCs looked great. She had only one question on those, at :48 – on that rep, you were running sideways towards the jump, so she didn’t see the connection as well and was reading the line of motion. O the others, yo were running forward out of the wrap FC more so she saw the line and connection better 🙂
Serps are looking really strong in terms of commitment and also taking the jump. She was finding the backsides REALLY well!! You helped a little more than she needed on the first backside rep by holding position – you can keep moving on those like you did on the other reps.
Since the backsides are going so well, we can add one more detail: On the push cue, you can have your shoulder back like a serp because it is a serp when she gets to the backside, and have the MM out on the serpentine line to help support that 🙂You can replace the bump with a bar, too! That will give her more room between the uprights and a different visual on the jump.
Good morning! Bummer about the bad weather coming 🙁
Finding the jump after the tunnel looked great! Lovely connection no matter what your position was relative to the line and Tali was FLYING. YAY! Great job with the reward throws! When the tunnel can come back out, you can run even closer to it so when she exits you are either parallel to her or behind her, so she drives forward. And, you can add in your Go verbal too.
Great job!
TracyGood morning!
About the classes – In 2019, we changed to different software here – all of the active classes at the time were downloaded, so I can see what you had active and email it to you.
On the video:
The rear crosses are going well! At the beginning you were getting closer and closer to the line and she did really well reading it! Same with the other side – high success rate with reading the rear crosses. Yay!!
Two details to be careful of:Don’t get on the line too early in terms of trying to cut your feet across behind her, as that might look like the backside cue. You don’t pattern the Rear cross line then pressure on it too early (like at :17) as that will cause her to not read the backside skill
And I will keep bugging you to be further from the bar on the Go lines 🙂 Plan your go line to be a lot more lateral, so you don’t end up with pressure on the line similar to the backside pressure. You can see it more heading towards the camera like at :51. Your path there at :56 was further away which is good 🙂
She was looking at you a little on the tunnel exit on the reps coming towards the camera, but I think it is because the tunnel was turning her to the right, so the GO was not a straight line necessarily and Dellin was checking to be sure. That will go away when she is more experienced.
Great job here! Those rear crosses will be a strong tool in your handling toolbox!!!
Tracy
